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hp men
07-14-2009, 04:31 PM
Natural News
July 14, 2009

At the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society recently held in San Diego, researchers presented a study showing that the flu vaccine – widely touted as a “must have” for children with chronic illnesses – isn’t effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations in children, especially ones with asthma. But here’s the most damning evidence that flu shots aren’t the safe, helpful vaccine the Centers for Disease Control ( CDC) and other government agencies claim: the researchers also found that children who get the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than their peers who do not get the vaccine.

Scientist Avni Joshi, M.D., of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, told the meeting, “The concerns that vaccination may be associated with asthma exacerbations have been disproved with multiple studies in the past, but the vaccine’s effectiveness has not been well-established. This study was aimed at evaluating the effectiveness of the TIV (trivalent inactivated flu vaccine in children overall, as well as the children with asthma, to prevent influenza-related hospitalization.”

Paradoxically, he then presented the results that appeared to show the vaccine did cause health problems serious enough to result in children being admitted to hospitals for care.

The children were harmed by influenza vaccines

To see if the vaccine actually reduced the number of hospitalizations for all children, especially those with asthma, over eight consecutive flu seasons, Dr. Joshi and his research team conducted a cohort study of 263 children. All the youngsters had been evaluated at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota between the ages of six months to 18 years and each had had laboratory-confirmed flu between 1996 to 2006. The scientists documented which of the children had been vaccinated against the flu, and those that had not received the flu jab. The kids’ asthma status was also noted along with records of and who did and did not require hospitalization.

Then the investigators checked the records for each child research subject to see who had been vaccinated before experiencing a flu-related episode that lead to a hospitalization during that illness. The results showed that youngsters who had received the flu vaccine had three times the risk of hospitalization, as compared to children who had not received the vaccine. For kids with asthma, there was even a higher risk of hospitalization in subjects who received the flu shot. No other measured factors, which included insurance coverage or severity of asthma, was found to impact the risk of hospitalization.

So does this raise a red flag against vaccinating children, especially those who are asthmatic, against the flu? Incredibly, despite the findings of his own study, Dr. Joshi refused to find fault with the flu shot. “While these findings do raise questions about the efficacy of the vaccine, they do not in fact implicate it as a cause of hospitalizations,” Dr. Joshi said in a statement to the media. “More studies are needed to assess not only the immunogenicity, but also the efficacy of different influenza vaccines in asthmatic subjects.”

The CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) continue to recommend annual influenza vaccination for all children aged six months to 18 years. Moreover, the National Asthma Education and Prevention Program (3rd revision) pushes annual flu vaccination of asthmatic children older than six months. However, as reported last fall in Natural News (http://xxx.naturalnews.com/024624.html) there’s little evidence flu shots work for youngsters. . A large study reported in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews of 260,000 children between 23 month and six discovered that the flu vaccine is no more effective that a placebo :o

Allister9
07-14-2009, 06:24 PM
vaccines is teh biggest scam ever .... hard to believe anyone runs to get in line for em ... i believe in allowing your amune system work and not be weakened by these vaccines. Its like anything, anytime you feel a little ill if you keep taking a pill for it, eventually your system stops fighting it cuase its expecting the fix ... you wont catch me or my kids ever being touched by that poison

cybertek
07-14-2009, 06:33 PM
I am right with you Allister... It is good to take precautions... just not from the government! :|>


Did anyone see X-Files???? :o

Captain_Harlock
07-16-2009, 08:51 AM
Kids are one thing (they always seem to bring up the "what about the kids" scenario with just about everything these days) but what about the adults? Do the same rules hold? Where is the study for that? I just hate these docs and their "pet" projects....

rycckor
07-16-2009, 12:25 PM
vaccines is teh biggest scam ever .... hard to believe anyone runs to get in line for em ... i believe in allowing your amune system work and not be weakened by these vaccines. Its like anything, anytime you feel a little ill if you keep taking a pill for it, eventually your system stops fighting it cuase its expecting the fix ... you wont catch me or my kids ever being touched by that poison

I may agree with you. However, for the elderly, people with other medical conditions such as COPD, etc, I think it's still a good idea to get a flu shot.

What about H1N1 flu vaccination? It's been reported that H1N1 affects all ages regardless of their preexisting health condition. If there was a vaccine for H1N1 readily available, heck for that matter, a vaccine for SARS, or a vaccine for Ebola, would you still refuse to get it?

Remember, vaccines are usually a way of strengthening our immune system by introducing an inactive portion of the virus so that when we get exposed to an active virus, our immune system will be already bolstered and hopefully fight off the virus more quickly.

mefnikk
07-16-2009, 02:42 PM
Vaccinations are a gamble.

I would love to say they are completely unnecessary but that really isn't the case.

There are mutations of diseases out there that the human immune system can only battle and cannot completely overcome.

Because of that, children and the elderly are especially vulnerable.

The likelihood of a child picking up those nasty bugs is pretty small. But I have heard of people spending lots of money and time at the hospital when something unfortunate like that does happen.

Medicine is a business in the US so vaccinations have been created to make money in the long run. But, peace of mind should be worth something as well.

A number of vaccinations actually do work and reduce the risk for infection.

Spin that roulette wheel...

billybob2006
07-16-2009, 03:03 PM
vaccines is teh biggest scam ever .... hard to believe anyone runs to get in line for em ... i believe in allowing your amune system work and not be weakened by these vaccines. Its like anything, anytime you feel a little ill if you keep taking a pill for it, eventually your system stops fighting it cuase its expecting the fix ... you wont catch me or my kids ever being touched by that poison
Allister sound more like your thinking antibiotics.

dude did you look at the source for this post natural news (hippy news is more like (toke up its the cure for everything)) the concept of vaccination is centuries old and natural as hell as it is used to teach your immune system what and how to fight (once it learn to fight the slightly weaker strain it has no problem kick the crap out of its live big bro) i'm not a doctor and i noticed at least three signs that the site was pushing its personal agenda in stead of an fair and balanced report
1 dissed the doctor that made the report (because he "Incredibly, despite the findings of his own study, Dr. Joshi refused to find fault with the flu shot" either he good enough to quote or not)
2 use the word harm when the article clearly states "efficacy" which is fancy speak for "do any thing"
3.doesn't mention any of the flaws with study (small sample group, were the flus they got one the were vacinated against or fresh one (doctor make educated guess what flus we'll be seeing and mix the ****tail accordingly and if they don't have a weaker version in the mix how your bod learn to fight the more powerful