VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
C/P from another site


It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

The information is posted in the rumor section as it is still speculative until such times as it can be established as fact. Untill it is a reality we will simply have to watch & wait. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer.

I got an email from some other fta web as well. Don't believe it until it posted.

what does that mean fta units a thing of the past ...some new type of electronic signal de-cryption devise ???

Yeah, the e-mails are coming almost daily to my spam folder. I just wish there was a way to drop the membership
on those sites without being banned. I used to read a few a week- but now the folder is deleted before I even
look. But who knows- one day I might get some free time and get banned from a few sites just to thin my spam a
little :P

i have been reading all morning on other site about this......but i can asure you not much going to be said here about this .......maybe soon closed...

The true will coming out in September 17 I wait 72 hours more, no problem Buddy

Hopefully there's some truth, and we'll see the bins show up :D

Can't wait to see the status page display Green lights.

Viewsat N3 fix yes or no:?::?::?:

ok wait, New platform? What like a new stb or what?

Sorry Buddy but this rumor are over one week ago in other site, send to trash

9/20/2009 thats d day

we shall see ,,

kind of interesting, don't know if it's true, hope a mod, speaks about this to clarify.

what does that mean fta units a thing of the past ...some new type of electronic signal de-cryption devise ???

I think the article i read was referring to I.K.S. units

For this to happen they would have to release new receivers or some sort of hub. Any claims of processing changes would be highly unlikely considering DN has ird's from the 90's still up and running with the new card. If they had the dump they could intergrate it with a card and provide a form ics, that would keep it from being reverse engineered and give them a the upperhand on the competition.

And what would be the point to release a file that the current hardware doesn't support? You would think some sort of maketing strategy would be under way by now to coincide with the release of the bin.

Agreed. This belongs to trash.

For this to happen they would have to release new receivers or some sort of hub. Any claims of processing changes would be highly unlikely considering DN has ird's from the 90's still up and running with the new card. If they had the dump they could intergrate it with a card and provide a form ics, that would keep it from being reverse engineered and give them a the upperhand on the competition.

VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
C/P from another site


It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

The information is posted in the rumor section as it is still speculative until such times as it can be established as fact. Untill it is a reality we will simply have to watch & wait. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer.


new platform? what are they talking about? iks? stand alone bin? do we have to pay? well...... hope this a rumor for sure...... i really dont understand this rumor

I hate replying to this rumor stuff.
If anyone could give it to us in plain English I would appreciate it very much! LOL
Until then, when I see it I will believe it! I'm not saying I dont think it will happen but I am getting really tired of these types of threads!
Gigsters the man, he is the only one who makes my heart flutter, FTA wise that is!!!:thmbup::thmbup:

yeap, this news was released on sep. 12 th, saw it on another site, people are also wanting for the file be released for all boxes, God.

At least this came from a reputable member.

new platform? what are they talking about? iks? stand alone bin? do we have to pay? well...... hope this a rumor for sure...... i really dont understand this rumor


New platform ? there has been talk of using a Wiznet type loader with serial# entry to bin for exact model# of Viewsat box.

Sonicview uses Wiznet type loader

read don't talk about it

New platform? does it mean VS Ultra V2 is garbage? there is nothing announced on viewsat's website about that. I would wait for Gigster to confirm, just a rumour for me

put a fork in this thread, she's done and cooked, lol

read don't talk about it

You meant write about it. :|>LOL

The true will coming out in September 17 I wait 72 hours more, no problem Buddy
Now That's Good English :worship:

High hopes............before any FTA comes up with an N3 hack,First and most importantly they have to open the new Rom 240 and 241 cards,witch has not happened yet...........and until they are open,if you want TV now its IKS or nothing .....for a while!!!............and that is not a rumor!!

it is arumor check this thread
http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=111207&page=3
it is closed by gigster and said it is garbage.

High hopes............before any FTA comes up with an N3 hack,First and most importantly they have to open the new Rom 240 and 241 cards,witch has not happened yet...........and until they are open,if you want TV now its IKS or nothing .....for a while!!!

Thanks for the deflate on my hopes... NOT!!!:lol:

I don't get it either, a new platform, could mean anything from an STB with more memory, a card fix?? Who knows? As said previously, why release a fix if current STBs can't handle it??? Also what puzzles me , is the part about a different way bins will be received and disbursed !! Possible new way of loading files??? I really don't know whether there's a spec of truth to this post or is it the ramblings of someone trying to get everyone all worked up!!! I guess we'll know in a few days!:sleep:

Musky is the most random guy on this site, He sometimes just pops out nowhere with some interesting info. Respected Guy, Thanks for the info Musky.

New platform ? there has been talk of using a Wiznet type loader with serial# entry to bin for exact model# of Viewsat box.

Sonicview uses Wiznet type loader

ohh, thanks man, already watched a wiznet example to understand what you meant.:thmbup:

I don't get it either, a new platform, could mean anything from an STB with more memory, a card fix?? Who knows? As said previously, why release a fix if current STBs can't handle it??? Also what puzzles me , is the part about a different way bins will be received and disbursed !! Possible new way of loading files??? I really don't know whether there's a spec of truth to this post or is it the ramblings of someone trying to get everyone all worked up!!! I guess we'll know in a few days!:sleep:

Im taking it the n3 CW was to much for the current stbs, they have. Or they had hard time compressing the files. seems like they might come out with more powerful units, I call bs on this rumor.

This is all crap, don't believe anything you read, believe when you see by your own eyes, rumor is still a rumor............

This is all crap, don't believe anything you read, believe when you see by your own eyes, rumor is still a rumor............

If you believe everything you see, you must be baffled at magic shows j/k
There is a reason this is the rumors section- it's not backed up with facts. You are supposed to wish
for or disregard the statements. That's your choice. Only believe it when you have confirmed- or
someone you trust

sounds like the FTA bins are going the same way as the DSS bins.... paying throught the nose..........

sounds like the FTA bins are going the same way as the DSS bins.... paying throught the nose..........

Huh??

sounds like the FTA bins are going the same way as the DSS bins.... paying throught the nose..........

what do you mean?

Most of us got every penny out of out FTA boxes. If a fix comes thats great and if it doesnt what have you really lost. you likely had the box running for a couple months min. and watched a few PPV movies and some sports. Add up what that would have cost and guaranteed you are still ahead of the game. I hope there is a fix as much as the next person but not going to rumor or guess or sit on the site for hours waiting for the holy grail to show up. If and when it happens. it will be here so be patient and enjoy the outdoors.

It sure beats paying though the wallet.... :lol:

it is time

super time haha

Most of us got every penny out of out FTA boxes. If a fix comes thats great and if it doesnt what have you really lost. you likely had the box running for a couple months min. and watched a few PPV movies and some sports. Add up what that would have cost and guaranteed you are still ahead of the game. I hope there is a fix as much as the next person but not going to rumor or guess or sit on the site for hours waiting for the holy grail to show up. If and when it happens. it will be here so be patient and enjoy the outdoors.

Those were exactly the words I was going to use. You took them right out of my mouth. LOL:thmbup:

most fta boxes paid for themselves in a 3 to 6 month time period. you figiure out what a total package is worth , plus ppv and porn and it totals up to a fta box in a matter of months.we have lost nothing at all here.

I no longer have a Viewsat receiver but from the past experience I have had with Viewsat, I'd think very long and very hard about tossing in the towel if the Viewsat coders are working on it. These guys have shown a lot of tenacity and have never been quitters so I would keep whatever Viewsat box I had even if the internal hardware is proven to be too dated or inadequate to handle whatever new bin files or software required to do the job in handling N3. In short, if I were a betting man, I'd leave my money on the Viewsat guys. It's just not realistic in being negative about something that requires so much work in finding the right solution for Viewsat boxes. Imagine trying to build a house with toothpicks .. or the Great wall of China ....... well the a stand alone bin file and the software/hardware to handle the processing will be comparable in getting the N3 fix

You meant write about it. :|>LOL

you meant type about it :)

Hi:

Here is another C&P from the suppose "Thebroken" (I wonder if he is out of jail or maybe an imposter) on N3 and VS. Posted yesterday.

C&P
If all goes well 4 more days... hrmm going to get interesting next week is all i say do you see the light yet?? And all of the old and new boxes will work no discontinued support here... never was an issue so this is the first site that i will announce dust off your vs boxes... Don't pm on the subject just wait and see if anything is updated i will let you know when it is appropriate.. Keep fingers crossed i love testing for EDUCATIONAL USE ONLY....

my English is not perfect, but only tries to write my German :twisted:

mein Englisch ist nicht vollkommen, aber nur versucht, mein Deutsch zu schreiben

or Spanish mi Ingles no es perfecto,pero solo trata de escribir mi Aleman

мой Англичанин не является совершенным, но только он старается писать мой Немецкий язык



Now That's Good English :worship:

The new platform rumor I find interesting. No doubt allot of people would be grumbling about possibly having to buy a new STB,or added hardware to fix existing boxes, if this is indeed what it means. But just how fast will these things sell if it means a standalone fix is available, with ALL the channels? From a business point of view, I'm thinking pretty much like hotcakes.

But then again I'm more than a tad skeptical to think any of this happening in the next few days, including a bin..... even though I'm sure they've been working overtime on it. It'll pop up when we least expect it and after 99% of the B.S. is thinned out.

wait and see, i got all the time i want.

ohhhh no its coming thats a fact cyphris dont bs around that i know.

Only time will tell, lets all just hope for the best

a new platform?...... sounds pretty fishy..... cyphris never mentioned this in his posts..... if older vs receivers don't work with this so called fix (not saying it exists) then cyphris is full of crap and this is egg on his face...... i have never known cyphris to be full of it....... so i think this is bunk..... just my take

Folks,
If I can throw this out there, if this suppoed new platform rumor is true, let me show you how quickly the IKS system can adapt it.
They buy the new system attach it to there servers and let VS do all the work of keeping the Bin up. When it goes down, they fall back to the IKS dominant servers until the bin is restored. All the while reverse working the system ot incorperate them permently in to there IKS servers...

Like it or not, for many the IKS servers will make it that much harder for the provider to attack any supposed fix.....Oh an B.T.W. by using this type of system existing hardware shoudl work just fine.....

HAM,

Ham I said

They are blowing so much smoke up My ass
that they are making HAM



Good luck, and I have a leaked N3 file for anyone that wants it

I'll even post it on here is you want Me to, it was E-Mailed to me too !

luke

The new platform rumor I find interesting. No doubt allot of people would be grumbling about possibly having to buy a new STB,or added hardware to fix existing boxes, if this is indeed what it means. But just how fast will these things sell if it means a standalone fix is available, with ALL the channels? From a business point of view, I'm thinking pretty much like hotcakes.

But then again I'm more than a tad skeptical to think any of this happening in the next few days, including a bin..... even though I'm sure they've been working overtime on it. It'll pop up when we least expect it and after 99% of the B.S. is thinned out.

New platform linux open src???

luke send it to me. i wount it

a new platform?...... sounds pretty fishy..... cyphris never mentioned this in his posts..... if older vs receivers don't work with this so called fix (not saying it exists) then cyphris is full of crap and this is egg on his face...... i have never known cyphris to be full of it....... so i think this is bunk..... just my take

i think you're right atleast i hope you are. i don't think vs wants to go thruogh what nf is going through right now.

This is what Im think It will be a new bin with a card you will get only to work in viewsat like what dn does. Just my thought?

Chill out everyone, it is this kind of stuff that got all of us in this position.
IN YOUR FACE is not the answer .This kind of traffic is sure going to upset
someone. So let's all be patient .The upgrade has been always in the picture.
vs has a lot of loyal support and they do have one of the most user frendly
stb .For me IKS and AKS is not the answer .Purchased a sonysat last month
and still not up and running maybe i'm stupid .Support not even close to those
of VS .IF something doesn't happen soon a lot of FTA sites will be down for the
count.including all sites powerd by V bullitin.so lets all be carefull of our moneys.:smoke:

Gigster has already posted long ago that the current viewsat STB's will work with the N3 fix. I am not speaking for gigster just relaying his message.

Therefore, if there was a new platform in the works, why would gigster post the exact opposite?.

Lets all hope for the best for the N3 release.

Hé body!!! if you are really tired to read these types of threads change the channel ,its not an obligation to stay tune in rumor section.

rumors is only a rumors that is only a part of the game .

you have a thousand of others threads you can read.

I'am an admin mod of other site and this rumors section still stay for a long time.....

Thats my point of vu only (friends)

If it was out there it would be here. These rumours are so old dirt is getting mad. Lets all just wait and see. If you cant wait get a script. Everybody here is tired of seeing these bogus rumours. Sorry if im blunt!!!.

The true will coming out in September 17 I wait 72 hours more, no problem Buddy

LOL Im with you man, we been waiting for months, 3 days is nothing...LMAO

sept 17 is pure bs.... that did not truly come from cyphris

i have never known cyphris to be full of it.......

LMAO!!...what did you think full EMU meant? ...he repeatedly said (Full EMU) its almost finished and everybody bought in to it and nothing materialized other the another BS excuse (I would say he full of it)

Now the chit that is floating around right now is dealer hype so they can sell there left over crap that's on the shelfs...lol... on a lighter note from good sources September release is still on schedule but talk is cheap...show me the money! ...lmao;)

LMAO!!...what did you think full EMU meant? ...he repeatedly said (Full EMU) its almost finished and everybody bought in to it and nothing materialized other the another BS excuse (I would say he full of it)

Now the chit that is floating around right now is dealer hype so they can sell there left over crap that's on the shelfs...lol... on a lighter note from good sources September release is still on schedule but talk is cheap...show me the money! ...lmao;)

ummmm.... the full emu talk was during n2..... and they had it.... and so did sonicview... we are in a new game now... cyphris has never even come close to promisingfull emu for n3

ummmm.... the full emu talk was during n2..... and they had it.... and so did sonicview... we are in a new game now... cyphris has never even come close to promisingfull emu for n3
VS never got the full emu done during N2 days, that's why they were going down like a yo-yo. SV probably went with diff rom image and was up till N3..........yes, Cyphris did promise a full emu and did not deliver.

ummmm.... the full emu talk was during n2..... and they had it....

How high was that chair you fell off bro when you hit your head...lmao...VS never had any full emu....and as far SV they never had full emu either but had a handle on the VRT

Thread closed? I think so lol

How high was that chair you fell off bro when you hit your head...lmao...VS never had any full emu....and as far SV they never had full emu either but had a handle on the VRT
Yeah, there was ***** fest about VS "fool" emu going around then, LOL.

it is arumor check this thread
http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=111207&page=3
it is closed by gigster and said it is garbage.


Need to read again, from Gigster maybe a lot longer.

ok you two jokErs... when was the last time vs went down before n3 (how long were they up?)........ vs and sonicview are the same company btw.......

Just my take,

If it appears it does, If it doesn't well it doesn't all of these predictions is a waste
of time and Bandwidth if it Comes true it Does. Bringing up the past bs doesn't help
either it is irrelevant and a waste of time and Bandwidth Screaming about Full emu's
this that and the other thing Does it Really Matter at this point in time?!?!?! No Hell
No.. What we got now is what we have and what The "hackers" have to break in order
to actually do something... We are living right now in an Iks world.. Now I for one would
love a standalone bin.. But all this crap being brought up about it?!?!?! Does it really matter???? Noooooooooooo It doesn't Proof is in the Puddin, I am from Missouri Which happens to be the Show me state... So All This talk is Bullcrap.... SHOW ME.... and
everyone else if there is a fix we will see it.. Until then its all lies bullcrap and
Hogwash that don't mean a damn hill of beans..... Jmo

Have a good one guys
Tony

sept 17 is pure bs.... that did not truly come from cyphris

If it is proven that it is bs, then why has this thread not been closed. You would think a mod would have gotten tired of it and just closed it, but yet it is still open.

why close it, fools will just open another.
lets see in 3 days..
any bets?
if any member i know wants to bet $50 for fun donated to the forum as memberships i say wont happen!!!

Musky is a cutNpaster that for the most part doesn't give credit to the original authors


r

If on the 17th no bins will released, lot of fta-folks will be very disappointed in VS, Im sitting and having fun with my Kbox.Time will tell if this is a stunt.

i will quintuple keith's bet.... only cuz idon't know any more multiplications....lol

ok you two jokErs... when was the last time vs went down before n3 (how long were they up?)........ vs and sonicview are the same company btw.......
Look into the file section for both brands, I am not going to do the work for you Brad, LOL.

I also agree with richie that musky is a cut & paste maestro who don't give due credits to the orig poster.

umm...I think that was a rhetorical question by superbrad....

Thread closed? I think so lol

No, don't close it yet.... This is a new record! 5 hours and has not been closed.....:lol:

only because it hasn't gotten completely stupid yet.....but very close

i say let er run and see all the silly posts before the rumour is proven bs again!!!

ok you two jokErs... when was the last time vs went down before n3 (how long were they up?)........ vs and sonicview are the same company btw.......

Ok I'll take the bait ...lol
VS last bin was 09-05-02 and had 8 release bins from the Jan 1...SV had only had one release and it was the beginning of Jan 09
...VRT (Variable Rotating Timer ) was one of the key factors in SV success for the most part...as far as SV and VS being the same company that's a trick question but in the end they are two different entities ...kind of like family but live else where ....SV chooses IKS and VS chooses standalone.

true dat....... i will give you that..... i draw conclusions from that in this game.... i will let others draw their own

most fta boxes paid for themselves in a 3 to 6 month time period. you figiure out what a total package is worth , plus ppv and porn and it totals up to a fta box in a matter of months.we have lost nothing at all here.

That's why we love FTA-STB, if it didn't pay itself, better run a sub,I've checked the Sub-prizes, very expensive, lot of questions..socialsecuritynumbers etc..that is what they call BS. Let me stick to my FTA, still have VS-ultra, that is wating to be loaded again.:rolleyes:

ya when I was on the shuttle last week i got the codes and sent them via email to the h card .com while dave download it they had the timer set to to mb per sec which led to a kb ? how much more crap can we take of this ! ah my !:censored: :clap:

brad i see all these guys that want to repeatedly post these threads about the for sure hack wont take our money!!
hmmmm wonder why?

any new box for sale from viewsat i am ready to buy :yes::thmbup:

any new box for sale from viewsat i am ready to buy :yes::thmbup:

will a used viewsat do?

brad i see all these guys that want to repeatedly post these threads about the for sure hack wont take our money!!
hmmmm wonder why?

because money talks and bullchit walks brother...... their own camp didn't release that 17th crap..... i would stay away from the site on the 17th if i didn't like it so much.....lol

because money talks and bullchit walks brother...... their own camp didn't release that 17th crap..... i would stay away from the site on the 17th if i didn't like it so much.....lol

True, or not, it keep us "busy", till we get sleepy:sleep:

I Think Viewsat Will Come Out On Top

I recently became a lurker on this site (which BTW has impressed me very much). I have been playing "the game" for a while now and if there is one thing I have learned is patience and hope for the best. Rumours come and go and we will deal with facts when the bin is released.

Heck I very recently had brain surgery and am still being patient and hoping for the best even though my cable sub is severely lacking in entertainment value. Sure I have tons of recorded movies but something new is good to have too.

The 1 fact that will always remain is if you are going to FTA then you should also SUB so you at least have basic TV in times of darkness.

As far as VS goes I have faith in them and have followed Cyphris' updates in the past and they eventually come to fruition. I have always respected DALE and have respect for Gigster because they both seem to have a good feel for the "hobby" going-ons.

It's wait and see until we get our TV and I for 1 believe in the VS coders abilities. I hope I am not let down and will always hope for the best.

(sorry for sounding so optimistic but it is all I can be or else I would be depressed :lol:)

I doubt shit will happen as well but one thing I am sure we can all agree upon is VS team were the first with map57, and court documents claim owner was looking to purchase equipment and or actual hacked card. I wouldn't be surprised if kwok and co had something up there slleeve.

when bin for cw-600s coming out

is it 17 septembar for cw-600s bin

Damn this threat getting more excited only a few hours and 10 pages already

yea this guys are good !!!!! what they say is what it is !!

when bin for cw-600s coming out

bin no come soon all box down due to N3 need IKS time being

VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
C/P from another site


It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

The information is posted in the rumor section as it is still speculative until such times as it can be established as fact. Untill it is a reality we will simply have to watch & wait. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer.

Thanks Bro excellent report.

Unfortunately, the move towards iks is inmiment, present & dangerous. Basically once you are hooked, they will ask you for sub's, therefore this will become the thief of the thief all around.

F all !!!!!

IKS you see what they paid for with there systems, take a ride, and pay for it !!!!

The Idea was sell boxes that do the trick, It was'nt ???

Know from the same makers, they also wan't to screew you up .

Once we see the fix, we believe, otherwise, another Santa Clauss is comming to Town.


:?::lol::lol::lol::lol::clap::coffee:

All these what ifs and how abouts are a bunch of bs Im almost sure their is a fix but theres no way in h### anybody is going to tell us a date when it will be released. We are all going to have to wait. when it does come out it will be hours if not days before whe can even test it so who gives a f###. lets just ride the fta wave!!

A fact here is that right now the stb companies are in court with dish. The winners are the ones who can prove that they have made no units specifically for signal theft but rather true fta. Now if VS goes and creates a new box that is more powerful, try explaining it to the courts that fta hasn't changed, but we need more powerful boxes right when n3 was released.. lol.. I call it BS.

Bring it to me son. :yes:

lets go to round 12--LOL

Hé body!!! if you are really tired to read these types of threads change the channel ,its not an obligation to stay tune in rumor section.

rumors is only a rumors that is only a part of the game .

you have a thousand of others threads you can read.

I'am an admin mod of other site and this rumors section still stay for a long time.....

Thats my point of vu only (friends)

I never said i was tired of reading rumors, I was just providing proper information to other members (new or old) to eliminate the idea of buying a new platform when the N3 fix arrives (if it does).

Thats what we do here, you help me and I help you. :)

VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
C/P from another site


It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

The information is posted in the rumor section as it is still speculative until such times as it can be established as fact. Untill it is a reality we will simply have to watch & wait. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer.

I noticed that almost everyone is missing the part where it states that 85% of existing platforms will be obsolete!! In other words only VS units will be able to use this fix!! That is until the other manufacturers' coders figure how to write the codes for their units!!!:rolleyes:

If the n3 bins came out. It will be posted here

Stupid enough for you Kenmoresp? You may close it then...

let`s say it happens, that will be a good thing, if not it`s ok, life goes on..........

mama told me ...believe half the things you hear..and all the things you see..and you'll be alright

we have all heard this since june. Cant we all just relax and see whats happens. Good night all!!!!

this is to all that are new members and want to close this treat.

you guys dont have any power to close anything.
if you guys dont like rumors then go to vs coders and ask them when a fix is going to be out. that way you can post a treat and make sure you posted in the news section not in the rumors sec because it will be moved to news ,

please any mod around get rid of some of this people that are here just to screw our site up please :mad:

If Viewsat can make a bin to crack N3 it will be the first time a cardless fix came out before a hacked card.

if you go back from

N2

then Map57

if you remember any major change that took out all units and cards..

Cards were always hacked then cardless fixes came out later.

So if Viewsat does come out with a cardless fix.. I really don't see how when they havent

even hacked a N3 / G3 card as of yet.

anyone understand what im saying?

I had seen some of it came true, but then why are you here?.

I'm here for the fertilizer being generated and the entertainment.

These rumor threads are better than any of the comedies on TV at present.

If I could shovel all the Bull Shit being generated in this thread I would have a garden the envy of my neighborhood.

Only thing more rewarding would be to follow Cyphris around with a very large truck to collect all the fertilizer he generates.
Then I could supply my whole neighborhood with fertilizer.LOL

I'm here for the fertilizer being generated and the entertainment.

These rumor threads are better than any of the comedies on TV at present.

If I could shovel all the Bull Shit being generated in this thread I would have a garden the envy of my neighborhood.

Only thing more rewarding would be to follow Cyphris around with a very large truck to collect all the fertilizer he generates.
Then I could supply my whole neighborhood with fertilizer.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


good 1

I just hope the new bins for the new "platform" are not for VS's all new IKS! :(

Just let it go, the more you reply to his post the more you guys are gonna argue, let the mods handle it when they sign in to the site.

Oki Doki I am done with him ;) now back to the thread, did not mean to get off topic :)

:thmbup::clap:VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
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It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

The information is posted in the rumor section as it is still speculative until such times as it can be established as fact. Untill it is a reality we will simply have to watch & wait. Hopefully the wait won't be much longer.

I took the time to read all,sound interesting.I'm still looking and waiting.

Nice to see one make the readers club! As for a fix lets hope its not a new box of some sort from VS or a new piece of hardware they want us to buy if so i think i'll be subbing up for the winter and will let the dog have the boxes to drag around by the cord he doesnt like tv but loves to drag and shake things

I just hope the new bins for the new "platform" are not for VS's all new IKS! :(

let's hope not!

welllll.........it looks like we've got lots of people looking the for an answer:confused: as to whether or not the "investment" they made will once again be brought back to life. Being a veteran of the "game" I can see that not as many people as the stb manufacturers would like have made the switch to IKS.:zipped: Holding out for a new bin to appear may take even more time since Beverly has been out for more than several months. When the Viewsat stb was up and running on bins it seemed to last longer than most and.......was always well supported, excellent features.:clap: However since it has taken awhile for the coders to produce a stand alone bin it seems like IKS is the wave or next generation of stb that allow you to access your viewing pleasure. My hope is that a stand alone bin is produced,it will surely solidify Viewsats place in the market as a leading provider of working stb's........Keeping my fingers crossed


remember....." United we stand - Divided we fall " :v:

well if viewsat does bring out a fix it won't be long untill others bring out one for there boxes

2 more days, and the truth will be out, id like for it to be true,, but unless they have a hacked card with the info, i dont think it possible to make a standalone bin, but i like my viewsat always did it was my first fta, im more of a card guy my self but go with the flow right, so i am looking forward to see what happens, my guess is nothing or viewsat iks, all we can do is wait

:clap::thmbup::clap:I got an email from some other fta web as well. Don't believe it until it posted.

u are abseloutly right

rumors is rumors! that's it!

New website need some members so they are posting these rumors etc.

Please wait & see if this is a rumor or truth.

i like the viewsat i also have a coolsat and a captiveworks however i'm not too keen on iks they can track you down if they want and no doubt they moniter where we all go card share etc is just too risky for me too stand alone bin is the only way as far as i can see to grab a signal and have some atonomy sooner or later they are gonna get into an iks server offshore or not and there's gonna be holy heck to pay i'm not logging into any servers on a perminent way a bin download and a box well they still have to prove you have the bin in the box logged in to a stream they got you guess we'll have to wait and see sometimes to sit on the fence with a picket up ones keester is the way to fly

this seems all the same talk as the HU to P4 days, still nothing to this day. Dont get your hopes up....

i like the viewsat i also have a coolsat and a captiveworks however i'm not too keen on iks they can track you down if they want and no doubt they moniter where we all go card share etc is just too risky for me too stand alone bin is the only way as far as i can see to grab a signal and have some atonomy sooner or later they are gonna get into an iks server offshore or not and there's gonna be holy heck to pay i'm not logging into any servers on a perminent way a bin download and a box well they still have to prove you have the bin in the box logged in to a stream they got you guess we'll have to wait and see sometimes to sit on the fence with a picket up ones keester is the way to fly

Actually if you do a little digging, the courts have ruled that actual watching of the signal must be proved in order to establish any damages. Simply loading a file to a reciever does not constitute proof. I cite Dave vs Tredworgy from 2004. The judge specificly said they had to prove that the signal was stolen. Not just the fact that the hardware was in possession of an individual. So if going as far as having hardware able to do the job can't be used in court how can the downloading of a bin be prosecuted? You must prove the actual use. In my opinion, that will be the downfall of IKS systems if they are gone after. There is no use for IKS except to watch. The downloading of a bin to an IKS reciever alone will not be proof enough. But that bin tied to a MAC addy of a reciever might be enough as there is no reason for a reciever to be hooked up to the internet for FTA. There are stories and reports of busts across the atlantic, but so far not here. But if it does start here, that will be the proof that they will try to establish. Time will tell how this works out. Have a great day!

my kbox is hooked to the internet so my khub can download all the latest weather.
unfortunatly for me the kbox needs internet for that service.

my kbox is hooked to the internet so my khub can download all the latest weather.
unfortunatly for me the kbox needs internet for that service.

I understand that. I also understand the premis that there are youtube and other video sites. That my friend was tried as a defense in Austrailia and was laughed out of court. The internet capable recievers are now against the law to own in Austrailia from what I have read. By the way, the party that used that as a defense was found guilty. He is either in jail or on appeal at the present time. I will look for that case if you like. I'm not trying to rain on anyones parade. At the same time I don't care to see decent people get in trouble because of bad or one sided information. This is in the early stages of this game. All the defences are not out yet. It will be interesting to see what happens. Have a great day!

well its hard to compare case laws in australia to canada,i havent at this time seen any laws here against internet capeable boxes.
what happens in the future who knows.
believe me i dont have my head burried in the sand and i know full well that if by chance i was to get caught i would be facing a $250-500 fine for being a end user.
hehehe its well worth it :)

well its hard to compare case laws in australia to canada,i havent at this time seen any laws here against internet capeable boxes.
what happens in the future who knows.
believe me i dont have my head burried in the sand and i know full well that if by chance i was to get caught i would be facing a $250-500 fine for being a end user.
hehehe its well worth it :)

The first I heard of the Aussie thing was from this very forum from the Gigster,,,,http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=26141
In Austrailia however, in 2005 signal theft was made a criminal offense. I am also glad to read that you my friend are staying up to speed. There are so many that don't. I really feel for them. Some of them even get down right nasty. All I am saying is whatever your poison, adjust your habits accordingly. :) I like to look for loopholes my self.. ;)

Oh yea, I'm trying to run down the rumor about nfusion and IKS being banned in Canada. So far not true. Those kind of rumors just divide and damage. In my humble opinion of course. :)

like always I agree with you just a bad rumour

Bad rumor until sep. 17 then we can all rest, less than 48hr. to go! :red:

Actually if you do a little digging, the courts have ruled that actual watching of the signal must be proved in order to establish any damages. Simply loading a file to a reciever does not constitute proof. I cite Dave vs Tredworgy from 2004. The judge specificly said they had to prove that the signal was stolen. Not just the fact that the hardware was in possession of an individual. So if going as far as having hardware able to do the job can't be used in court how can the downloading of a bin be prosecuted? You must prove the actual use. In my opinion, that will be the downfall of IKS systems if they are gone after. There is no use for IKS except to watch. The downloading of a bin to an IKS reciever alone will not be proof enough. But that bin tied to a MAC addy of a reciever might be enough as there is no reason for a reciever to be hooked up to the internet for FTA. There are stories and reports of busts across the atlantic, but so far not here. But if it does start here, that will be the proof that they will try to establish. Time will tell how this works out. Have a great day!

reminds me of the old "Napster,..just sharing is all..until we had to share parts to make it ok..

Regarding plastic first, then standalone bin -

VS has a team of coders (obviously) and why can't they also have a card team? If they have a card team, why would they release the card hack to the general public when their boxes do not need them?

Point being, VS could very well have gotten into the card a long time ago, and are now in the final stages of a standalone release.... All the while keeping the card hack to themselves.

Food for thought...

:clap::thmbup::worship:

Plastic has always stood the test and has been used as the "test" vehicle over the long haul because of its versatility as a proving ground. If it works then move on to the next stage - fta bins. :)

I have a question;

I was not around during the time when N1 changed to N2. I started testing after the bins came out for N2. I have heard that VS founded its notoriety because they were the ones that cracked it. So my question is - When N2 was cracked, did VS release stand alone bins first or was plastic first? :confused:

can someone plz clairify this for me.....thanx:thmbup:

Where is it written that plastic must come first and be tested then other platforms get the fix or bin? As stated VS may have there own plastic hack team and have been working on plastic since N3 card came out? Many questions with very little answers, after end Of Sept. maybe we will know more. If 9-17-2009 a bin is out would be a big suprize, but stranger things have happened.

I have a question;

I was not around during the time when N1 changed to N2. I started testing after the bins came out for N2. I have heard that VS founded its notoriety because they were the ones that cracked it. So my question is - When N2 was cracked, did VS release stand alone bins first or was plastic first? :confused:

can someone plz clairify this for me.....thanx:thmbup:
Plastic was first then DVB.........first FTA to release was an unknown Microroyal. VS wasn't in business yet until shortly after.

Regarding plastic first, then standalone bin -

VS has a team of coders (obviously) and why can't they also have a card team? If they have a card team, why would they release the card hack to the general public when their boxes do not need them?

Point being, VS could very well have gotten into the card a long time ago, and are now in the final stages of a standalone release.... All the while keeping the card hack to themselves.

Food for thought...

yes you are correct, viewsat has been working on the cards for quite some time now, I have heard they have a dump but are having trouble emulating the process, The cw's are off and therefore picture is freezing, but I guess by recent info I guess they fixed it. we just have to wait and see.

VS wasn't even around when N2 was hacked, FTA was still a new thing and selection was minimal. DVB and Plastic were up and running at least a month before fta and if I recall Europe had N2up a few months before NA.

VS wasn't even around when N2 was hacked, FTA was still a new thing and selection was minimal. DVB and Plastic were up and running at least a month before fta and if I recall Europe had N2up a few months before NA.

wasnt it coolsat that had the first stand alone bin? Viewsat had the first map57 bin.

wasnt it coolsat that had the first stand alone bin? Viewsat had the first map57 bin.

You are correct, Coolsat then Pansat, VS had fix for Map57 I think FTA was down for like 2 months.

Plastic was first then DVB.........first FTA to release was an unknown Microroyal. VS wasn't in business yet until shortly after.

I use to think that to and in my case that's all that was offered late Aug of 2005 in Vancouver. I learned real quick the difference between a piece of shit like Microyal and a CS4000 or PS3500. Good thiing I onlly dealt with a handful of those garbage receivers or I may have had to pay a certain person in Calgary a visit to discuss options.

VS wasn't even around when N2 was hacked, FTA was still a new thing and selection was minimal. DVB and Plastic were up and running at least a month before fta and if I recall Europe had N2up a few months before NA.

wasnt it coolsat that had the first stand alone bin? Viewsat had the first map57 bin.

You are correct, Coolsat then Pansat, VS had fix for Map57 I think FTA was down for like 2 months.

Coolsat, thx guys!

lol so did we all start out with those microyals?

I'd just like to have an idea of what the new platform is and disbursement and methods etc. I have noticed a couple of my fta dealer sites no longer carry platinum and platinum lites. They still carry Ultra's(and lites), PVR and HD's.

So anyone know what the deal is?

Seems kind of silly to release a bin and on the same day release a new method of loading etc. Not many will be able to test it if we need new hardware. Unless they are dealers in the loop of course.

I sure hope my ultra holds out and I can still use my thuumb drive of course :confused:

I'd just like to have an idea of what the new platform is and disbursement methods. I have noticed a couple of my fta dealer sites no longer carry platinum and platinum lites. They still carry Ultra's(and lites), PVR and HD's.

So anyone know what the deal is?

Seems kind of silly to release a bin and on the same day release a new method of loading. Not many will be able to test it Unless they are dealers in the loop.

I sure hope my ultra holds out :confused:

We will have to wait and see, I know this, the extreme and the ultra are the same unit, except for the usb port on the ultra.

Regarding plastic first, then standalone bin -

VS has a team of coders (obviously) and why can't they also have a card team? If they have a card team, why would they release the card hack to the general public when their boxes do not need them?

Point being, VS could very well have gotten into the card a long time ago, and are now in the final stages of a standalone release.... All the while keeping the card hack to themselves.Food for thought...

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:thmbup:

lol so did we all start out with those microyals?


Apparently not just us suckers in the Westcoast,lol.

Just to add if Canada is indeed banning sales of those I** boxes then coming out with a new type of hardware would put VS in a similar boat considering true FTA still works a little on their current boxes and a new box would likely be considered circumventing the Nag 3.

I am incorrect on this point?

If ever I start a satellite museum I will crown it as biggest pile of shit ever released, Blackbird will run a close second.

If ever I start a satellite museum I will crown it as biggest pile of shit ever released, Blackbird will run a close second.

lol, Run Birdy Runnn!!!

Hell I can wait 2 days!! :yes::yes::yes:

I use to think that to and in my case that's all that was offered late Aug of 2005 in Vancouver. I learned real quick the difference between a piece of shit like Microyal and a CS4000 or PS3500. Good thiing I onlly dealt with a handful of those garbage receivers or I may have had to pay a certain person in Calgary a visit to discuss options.
I wasn't into FTA back then, very first box was a Digiwave and we know the support story now, haha.............mainly a plastic/avr/atmega/dvb junkie.

yes a couple of days...it'll be interesting to see what goes on here at this site

Yes so where is it then. The fix is out there some say so lets have it. Not to be pessimistic, but i must have heard this story over 200 times now. Ill have to see it to believe it:roll::roll::roll::smoke:

I wasn't into FTA back then, very first box was a Digiwave and we know the support story now, haha.............mainly a plastic/avr/atmega/dvb junkie.

I hear ya, best money I ever spent was on Atmega. I have some more then ten years old already that worked up until N3.

I'm also using atmega and just getting into the FTA cardless uploading files....never installed it completely as I believe I need an additional dish 30" dia plus so I'm told

:confused: Is this n3 real or maybe another rumor, we have to wait to see :zipped:

:confused: Is this n3 real or maybe another rumor, we have to wait to see :zipped:

Are u for real?

Bet ya in two more days they will tell ya 2 more weeks. Again!:worship:.

Just wondering that if one team has a fix will all others be able to copy from that bin to make their own or are other teams still no further ahead?

dle5. When a "fix" is released for one stb unit other coders would use it to make other bins. (basically). From what I can gather some coders will share info. Hard to tell exactly what they do. :)

Musky is a cutNpaster that for the most part doesn't give credit to the original authors


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Ya that what he does to me. c/p

New Platform either means IKS, or by the use of a plug in card, or a MUST PURCHASE new receiver.

Either way until there is proof of anything working that is not going to cost the end user hundreds of dollars it's all bumbkiss.

Xtreme

Bet ya in two more days they will tell ya 2 more weeks. Again!:worship:.

I think that on the 18th I am going to have one hell-of a good laugh:

sounds like the FTA bins are going the same way as the DSS bins.... paying throught the nose..........

I never paid a dime for a Dss Bin :confused:

I agree...lol

This rumor has been floating around just about every site. I think it's just another rumor but guess we will hafta just wait an see what comes of this.

Its a wait wait situation :)

Yes back in the day Blackbird almost first fta but switched to buying Pansat 2500, then about the time of N2 got Coolsat 4000, 5000, then SV 1000, 4000 then VS Ultra lite and SV 8000 now using NF Phoenix and waiting on end of month to see if I need to open up my supply or old receivers?? Just like all "toys" we have come a long way and this new release may mean new equpt. or new way to run system but will move on with it and make it work. Just hope on the 17th that people do not bash to hard if the fix is not out, and if it is out don'd say I told you so. Good luck and good testing.

This rumor has been floating around just about every site. I think it's just another rumor but guess we will hafta just wait an see what comes of this.

i agree with you , just another big rumor but like you said .. we need to wait and see what happens but there is not a real fundamentation for this :)

New Platform either means IKS, or by the use of a plug in card, or a MUST PURCHASE new receiver.

Either way until there is proof of anything working that is not going to cost the end user hundreds of dollars it's all bumbkiss.

Xtreme

ya thats the only way i see it, is we will have to purchase some sort of gadget.the old models probably wont work with any new fix. they have been selling on ebay for 10.00 dollars.lol

[QUOTE=musky;643970]VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
C/P from another site

It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

Friends it is a 100% known fact in Very private circles that a standalone fix does exits.

The sulution is very similar 2 the sonicview fix of last jan 09 that lasted till the current outage june 09.

VRT (Variable Rotating Timer ) was one of the key factors in SV success for the most part.

But until viewsat, since they have the most 2 gain comes up with 5 million $$$s there will be No Fix released.

The peeps that are in charge are nobodys fools. [Not Viewsat_Private Hackers]


Viewsat will make about $50 million $$$ profit within the next 8-10 months upon fix being released.

Viewsat will sell a half million New units in 6-8 months.

[QUOTE=musky;643970]VS has N3 fix and New Platform Rumor
C/P from another site

It is reported by many that a N3 standalone bin is out there, released on the web by Viewsat. In addition reports of the release of a new platform to handle this new methodology will be available around Septmber 17 2009. It is suggested this release & platform will make 85% of the existing platforms obsolete & junk giving VS a commanding lead in the industry. *** units will become a thing of the past.. This of course follows the known release in the European theatre.The way bins are recieved & disbursed may also change.

Friends it is a 100% known fact in Very private circles that a standalone fix does exits.

The sulution is very similar 2 the sonicview fix of last jan 09 that lasted till the current outage june 09.

VRT (Variable Rotating Timer ) was one of the key factors in SV success for the most part.

But until viewsat, since they have the most 2 gain comes up with 5 million $$$s there will be No Fix released. The peeps that are in charge are nobodys fools.

Viewsat will make about $50 million $$$ profit within the next 8-10 months upon fix being released.

So your saying the VS coders are holding the fix for a bigger piece of the pie? Damn loyal employees they got there.lmao. For them to make 50 million they would need to sell new hardware.

Yer gonna hate to stupid question but I have to ask...

Will I have to get a new reciever or new dish or new little boxes that point into the dish? Or will I just DL a file like I used to from here plug it in and go?

Thanks

Selling new hardware with the hopes of a N3 fix doesn't make sense. We're supposed to buy equipment that
doesn't work because of a rumor that it will work? Can someone else call BS on this one?

[QUOTE=bwanajuju;645700]

So your saying the VS coders are holding the fix for a bigger piece of the pie? Damn loyal employees they got there.lmao. For them to make 50 million they would need to sell new hardware.


But Until Viewsat, since they have the most 2 gain

Comes Up With 5 million $$$s there will be No Fix released.

The peeps that are in charge are nobodys fools. [Not Viewsat_Private Hackers]

:yes:Viewsat will sell a half million New F.T.A units in 6-8 months.

Ok I think that answers part of my question....When you say they will make money off new units, what is a unit? Is that the whole setup reciever dish and those things pointing at the dish? Or is it just one of those things?

Thanks

i wonder how many ppl are gonna be upset if it dosent come out

i wonder how many ppl are gonna be upset if it dosent come outAll of us.

i wonder how many ppl are gonna be upset if it dosent come out

probably millions.. honestly I've gotten to the point where i check on here once every couple of days.. one day i'm hoping to come on and not be able to access the site because traffic is so high downloading the bin.. to date I haven't been surprised yet..

I have been lucky with free cable so but I would rather have free sat. 2 days 2 weeks 2 months wont bother me but will be nice when it happens...

THats why they should partner up with cw and sv.:|>

I have been lucky with free cable so but I would rather have free sat. 2 days 2 weeks 2 months wont bother me but will be nice when it happens...

what about 2 years :o

Well its starting to make will $en$e to me now. If a fix comes out its almost certain that we will have to buy some new equipment this way the company's can make mucho money. But I hope they are not that greedy and let it work with their old equiptment but if not they know we will buy being that we will still be ahead of the game spending more loot for new stuff.

^LOL if I am still getting free cable then its all good...I bought a PS3 to fill the void anyways lol...gotta love blu-ray and upscaled dvd's...yeah no HD on my free cable but I didnt have it on my sat either...

Well its starting to make will $en$e to me now. If a fix comes out its almost certain that we will have to buy some new equipment this way the company's can make mucho money. But I hope they are not that greedy and let it work with their old equiptment but if not they know we will buy being that we will still be ahead of the game spending more loot for new stuff.

I do have doubts about a fix coming out this month, but if you think about it, if (theoretically) Viewsat was the pioneer of the N3 fix, and didn't spend any money on manufacturing all new hardware, they'd be in an amazing spot in terms of making money.

Producing new hardware would cost them a ton of money. I could sooner see them testing out the supposed fix in the public on current boxes for quite a while to be sure it's going to work for the long term, or they'd be risking spending money on producing new boxes that could be door mats before they even cleared their inventory.

Were we not supposed to get an an annoucement today from viewsat about a N3 file being released on the 17th? Anyone heard anything?

Is it possible that the new platform could be a new firmware that you would load or J-tag to your receiver with some minor hardware or possibly with no hardware at all on the newer receivers.

ya thats the only way i see it, is we will have to purchase some sort of gadget.the old models probably wont work with any new fix. they have been selling on ebay for 10.00 dollars.lol

This is all rumors, There is no other platform needed, And if they make 50 mill it will be after fix is out and people will buy like crazy.You guy,s take a rumore that someone that does'nt have a clue starts and make a mountain out of it.All viewsat units will work just like cyphris and gister has allready stated. It is also rumore that fix will be out on the 17th. This did not come from cyphris or gister and does not hold an ounce of truth.So if you are waiting for the 17th for a bin you will be dissappointed unless cyphris say's it will come. Please stop spreading rumores and be patient,and all things will work out in time.

I like this talk....So we wont have to change a thing...

This is all rumors, There is no other platform needed, And if they make 50 mill it will be after fix is out and people will buy like crazy.You guy,s take a rumore that someone that does'nt have a clue starts and make a mountain out of it.All viewsat units will work just like cyphris and gister has allready stated. It is also rumore that fix will be out on the 17th. This did not come from cyphris or gister and does not hold an ounce of truth.So if you are waiting for the 17th for a bin you will be dissappointed unless cyphris say's it will come. Please stop spreading rumores and be patient,and all things will work out in time.

well said, totally agree

Although I beleive that this is all bull! Let's say vs get a fix. If I was them I do 2 things:
even if the fix work with current fta models I'll make customers buy an add on anyway.. The other thing I would do to stop clones is try to tie the bin with a serial number or anything to stop clones from being able to use bins!

Here http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=111886