A friend of mine who imports many FTA boxes from USA and Asia.

He just got a letter from CBSA.. Canada border and service agency that all FTA receivers that are capable of receiver encrypted programming are not allowed to be released...some importers are not paying the duties of 5% as well...

so all importers that are defining Free to Air equipment on their commercial invoices and have Nfusion on them.. have gotten the letters so far...

If I get a copy of his letter, I will scan and upload... The heat seems to more on focus on nfusion.

Remember, last year, thedigitalstore was busted in Toronto. In Toronto, almost no more sells nfusions any more... The only importer is Angel Electronics on Matheson area. They are bringing all the nfusions in.. that explains why there is a shortage on the receivers

got some proof?

got some proof?

Prove a rumor? Then it can be moved to news- right

A friend of mine who imports many FTA boxes from USA and Asia.

He just got a letter from CBSA.. Canada border and service agency that all FTA receivers that are capable of receiver encrypted programming are not allowed to be released...some importers are not paying the duties of 5% as well...

so all importers that are defining Free to Air equipment on their commercial invoices and have Nfusion on them.. have gotten the letters so far...

If I get a copy of his letter, I will scan and upload... The heat seems to more on focus on nfusion.

Remember, last year, thedigitalstore was busted in Toronto. In Toronto, almost no more sells nfusions any more... The only importer is Angel Electronics on Matheson area. They are bringing all the nfusions in.. that explains why there is a shortage on the receivers

There not capable of decrypting shit anymore For this tto be true they would have had to pass some sort of law/legislation that would be in public records.

A friend of mine who imports many FTA boxes from USA and Asia.

He just got a letter from CBSA.. Canada border and service agency that all FTA receivers that are capable of receiver encrypted programming are not allowed to be released...some importers are not paying the duties of 5% as well...

so all importers that are defining Free to Air equipment on their commercial invoices and have Nfusion on them.. have gotten the letters so far...

If I get a copy of his letter, I will scan and upload... The heat seems to more on focus on nfusion.

Remember, last year, thedigitalstore was busted in Toronto. In Toronto, almost no more sells nfusions any more... The only importer is Angel Electronics on Matheson area. They are bringing all the nfusions in.. that explains why there is a shortage on the receivers

I don't believe this rumour, as they would have to get some sort of court ruling to stop the importing of a previously legal item! Show a copy of this letter and make this no longer a rumour! :coffee:

i call bs on this one

i call bs on this one

I thought that was a given- a mass extinction of stb's- not likely.

It's almost as if they were drugs being banned from sale, But yet drugs are still smuggled and sold no matter what laws has been put into effect. sai la vie.....

Talked to both the dealers I got my stbs from and they never got any letters about this, they got a shipment of SV and Nfusions today and no letter, so dunno if they got lucky or not but :yawn::sleep:

they can never ban a product that is used for FREE TO AIR, now it is not the fault of the manufacturers that someone outthere is making 3rd party software to get some encrypted channels

Everyone is getting out of fta boxes as they are losing there shirts in sales as n3 has not been hacked yet.

hxxp://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/on/news-nouvelles/2009/09-02-11-london-fes-pelf-eng.htm

hxxp://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/1381/98/1/1/

hxxp://www.thestar.com/Business/article/602878

There not capable of decrypting shit anymore For this tto be true they would have had to pass some sort of law/legislation that would be in public records.

Exactly right ebayfan......not something that can be done arbitrarily...wow that's a big word for me:)

A plug for a dealer other than our Supporting Advertisers!

hxxp://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/on/news-nouvelles/2009/09-02-11-london-fes-pelf-eng.htm

hxxp://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/1381/98/1/1/

hxxp://www.thestar.com/Business/article/602878

Article says modified stbs, those coming from asia are not modded:)

The phrase “Satellite piracy also creates a real threat to public safety. The use of pirating devices has been
found to create signal interference with communications systems used by airline, search and rescue and
police services.” makes me laugh every time I read it. Really- does my toaster do the same- I know the
microwave does

if you stand in New York Times square and have a store for knives and sell legal knives
and every 2nd day there is a murder from that same knife that you sold... aren't they going to do anything about that??? .... yes, knife is legal but 99% of those knives are helping with crime.. are they going to keep letting you sell those

by importing those knives you are on the hit-list of the authorities because your knives help kill someone..

why was digitalstore in Markham was busted ?.. all 4 located raided.. they were only Selling legal fta system...?

Its BS

hxxp://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/on/news-nouvelles/2009/09-02-11-london-fes-pelf-eng.htm

hxxp://www.digitalhome.ca/content/view/1381/98/1/1/

hxxp://www.thestar.com/Business/article/602878



anyone else notice the quote from kenmoresp? And the actually menting of ftabins?

LOL... FILL IN THE REST.. . .. .:censored:. BULL _HIT !!!

if you stand in New York Times square and have a store for knives and sell legal knives
and every 2nd day there is a murder from that same knife that you sold... aren't they going to do anything about that??? .... yes, knife is legal but 99% of those knives are helping with crime.. are they going to keep letting you sell those

by importing those knives you are on the hit-list of the authorities because your knives help kill someone..

why was digitalstore in Markham was busted ?.. all 4 located raided.. they were only Selling legal fta system...?

Not a very good analogy...until a product is banned and there has been no official govt release, the item will be allowed to be sold.

As far as the bust...I don't know, maybe they were tied to an illegal modification of the stbs

that last one was posted quite some time ago,,yup ken is famous lol

lets just wait and see

Article says modified stbs, those coming from asia are not modded:)

Who sells A Modifed FTA STB is Stupid For Doing
Who Buy A Modifed FTA STB Is More Stupid , also asking for the S*** To Get them

that does sound like bsss bs bs bs bs iewwwwwwwwww i smell it now

You said the almost no one sell's Nfusions anymore? their is tons of authorized dealer selling Nfusion's and other FTA receivers. There is no way the Canadian government will ban FTA receiver's, if they did that would open a whole new door to let them ban other things that have the potential of being used illegally.

interesting read

It looks to me like just another nFusion "rumor"
The kind that get started by ppl that want to see the pot stirred. Tryin' to knock nFusion off the pedestal has been going on for a long time. Now we have the government in on it, lol
The nF "knocking" rumors tend to blend together after awhile.

The "digital" thing still has no real info on what happened. Unless I missed something.?

Those busts in those reports all had to do with 3rd party software and salesman. Nothing to do with fta.
It would be a tough sell for any fta box to be banned from Canada, or banned from almost anywhere, I would think.

And yes, the analogy with the knife thing just don't cut it. Excuse the pun.

There is no shortage of nFusion receivers where I come from, there never was. And did you ever think that some of the stores that don't carry nFusion is for other reasons. Such as nFusion is maybe not the best company to deal with. This is not just my imagination either. I have been told that dealing with nFusion as a retailer can be stressful, and not for legal reasons.
Sure the so called "digital" thing, may have scared some retailers, that can't be denied. This has been brought up before and at that time people also reported nFusion was doing fine in the stores they frequented.


This is a rumor, yes. It is also propaganda BS in order to chip away at that pedestal.

It looks to me like just another nFusion "rumor"
The kind that get started by pp, that want to see the pot stirred. Tryin' to knock nFusion off the pedestal has been going on for a long time. Now we have the government in on it, lol
The rumors tend to blend together after a while. The "digital" thing still has no real info on what happened. Unless I missed something.?

Those busts in those reports all had to do with 3rd party software and salesman. Nothing to do with fta.
It would be a tough sell for any fta box to be banned from Canada, or banned from almost anywhere, I would think.

And yes, the analogy with the knife thing just don't cut it. Excuse the pun.

There is no shortage of nFusion receivers where I come from, there never was. And did you ever think that some of the stores that don't carry nFusion is for other reasons. Such as nFusion is maybe not the best company to deal with. This is not just my imagination either. I have been told that dealing with nFusion as a retailer can be stressful, and not for legal reasons.
Sure the so called "digital" thing, may have scared some retailers, that can't be denied. This has been brought up before and at that time people also reported nFusion was doing fine in the stores they frequented.
This is a rumor, yes. It is also propaganda BS in order to chip away at that pedestal.

its funny how he only talked about nfusion and not kbox or sv.........hmmmm...

sounds like another one those big ass bs rumors .......

im sure someone would have gotten news or the links for canada on their sites would've been taken off by now....

its funny how he only talked about nfusion and not kbox or sv.........hmmmm...

sounds like another one those big ass bs rumors .......

im sure someone would have gotten news or the links for canada on their sites would've been taken off by now....

Just my take... but nfusion serves zero purpose in the true fta world...... think about it.... that being said this is bs.....

i agree.. try scanning 97 degrees west ... you get half channels..

it's only that after your modify the box the true FTA starts working ...

after the digitalstore was busted...

the weather and stock and IP pvr camera options were added

I will post the letter soon.. if I can get it ...

T.E.S Sat box that was previous owner of nfusion ..dropped the box just because of that ..
Same guys who made TECHSAT
SuperStar is the same thing as Nova..

If T.E.S Sat was dumped sometime ago..

just give it 10 more days .. and you shall see a legislation made public.
b3v and DN is not sitting and not doing any about it..

they know all these importers are getting away under the shield of "FTA" .. wait till they "fix" the problem.. B3V has enough donations given to CRTC .. laws are bought and created by corps..,,,not made from public voting...

it's always against law, when you are pissing off some major corporation..and getting in their way of making them the money. ..

just like insurance business in canada..no insurance = against law.. so insurance companies benefit from these laws!

a nother bull s--- story.

Ya, I like the part where fta receivers interfeer with air plane navigation or something like that, what a bunch of bs, how in the world would something travelling through the net cause problems with a planes navigation? is it the way a fta receiver decrypts the signal? cause my sub receiver decrypts the signal does it cause problems with a planes navigation system, try feeding some more bs, do they really think that people are stupid enough to believe that crap? they should be charged under the bull_hit act, the inhilation of to much bs can cause cancer and they are spreading it thick and obvious.

Cheers
Ultimate Fighter

I really can't see going after an entire manufacturer name or product that has a legal use. FTA in its pure form is still a popular hobby. And then why NFusion and not all the other IKS boxes? If a law did happen to get passed in Canada with just NFusion's name on it, they could have a field day in counter-suites for segregating them from other FTA manufacturers that build a product with the same possibilities. The only way something like this could get passed ( assuming they are even trying) would be to go after functionality of certain ports (something like the RJ45 port). So say some how they say it has to be disabled to be imported, it could easily be modded back or have a dongle sold separately.

I don't know... Just my two cents to what sounds like BS to me.

I really can't see going after an entire manufacturer name or product that has a legal use. FTA in its pure form is still a popular hobby. And then why NFusion and not all the other IKS boxes? If a law did happen to get passed in Canada with just NFusion's name on it, they could have a field day in counter-suites for segregating them from other FTA manufacturers that build a product with the same possibilities. The only way something like this could get passed ( assuming they are even trying) would be to go after functionality of certain ports (something like the RJ45 port). So say some how they say it has to be disabled to be imported, it could easily be modded back or have a dongle sold separately.

I don't know... Just my two cents to what sounds like BS to me.

why nfusion and not the others?.... you getting true fta on your nfusion right now?.....lol

why nfusion and not the others?.... you getting true fta on your nfusion right now?.....lol


Can't say I would own one. But I would imagine it brings in the same FTA my VS is right now.

well i cant belive that because i deal with a store in the city of t.o. and visit there each week and they have all receivers in stock all the time nfusion kbox never on back order

The phrase “Satellite piracy also creates a real threat to public safety. The use of pirating devices has been
found to create signal interference with communications systems used by airline, search and rescue and
police services.” makes me laugh every time I read it. Really- does my toaster do the same- I know the
microwave does

Heh,
Thats Funny Wild... So these Stbs interfere with Communications.. Hmm thats kinda
hilarious since the can only RECEIVE (DOH!) and not Transmit... Damn man i cannot believe they said that either.... Christ so if that was the case where they interfere with all the
Rescue and Police Equipment Imagine what the Sat's circling the globe are doing !!! Oh My Shut them down Shut them Down they are interfering with The Police and Rescue Communication services.... More Like these stbs are interfering with Charlie and Bev's Wallet thats what it boils down to... What a bunch of Oscar Myer Bologna... Man they are really reaching and Getting Desperate.... Thats a good one.... heh....

You all have a good night....

Oh and rememeber Don't run your microwave without shielding heheheheh... Sheesh

Tony

there is also a rumor going around that i have a nfusion solaris,but i am not worried,it is only a rumor :thmbup:

Take it from someone that works in a shipping depot
If the shipping forms for out of country shipping (all six copies)are filled out properly
there is no way to segragate packages that easily.
Some thing has to red flag a package in order for it to be inspected or stopped at the border.
Normally these things are :
Bad paperwork(no monetary value claimed is a big one)
Not all copies enclosed in Zip package
Damaged package.
Of coarse there are random spot checks but someone on the border is not looking for fta receivers period.
They are lookoing for wepons or drugs

The phrase “Satellite piracy also creates a real threat to public safety. The use of pirating devices has been
found to create signal interference with communications systems used by airline, search and rescue and
police services.” makes me laugh every time I read it. Really- does my toaster do the same- I know the
microwave does

Actually this has been proven to be true. This was with external emulators and RF signals being emitted from the cabling. We did some tests with spectrum analysers and we did pick up strong RF signals, enough to interfere with VHF/UHF radios. The main issue was the cables being used and the length as they worked as an antenna.

Actually this has been proven to be true. This was with external emulators and RF signals being emitted from the cabling. We did some tests with spectrum analysers and we did pick up strong RF signals, enough to interfere with VHF/UHF radios. The main issue was the cables being used and the length as they worked as an antenna.

this is old news that actually related back to the avr boards used in the early days of bev and dn hacking.
also the are used for emulation.
they used to emit a very weak signal on the aircraft emergency channel.
basically unless your house was next door to a military base or on the end of a runway it had zero effect.
i remember guys testing it out and you couldnt pick up much furthor than the edge of your yard.

no rumor just a lame read.

Actually this has been proven to be true. This was with external emulators and RF signals being emitted from the cabling. We did some tests with spectrum analysers and we did pick up strong RF signals, enough to interfere with VHF/UHF radios. The main issue was the cables being used and the length as they worked as an antenna.

Actually, any antique receiver here couldn't put off more interference than my microwave- be realistic. And the
interference would also be less than the wires going into my 200 amp breaker box. The cabling in my house
also puts out interference. And as a matter of fact- I can control my tv in the bedroom through a RF signal
coming straight out of a factory sub remote. You could also say that the interference from the satellite signal
beaming down is the source of some cancers. It doesn't make it true when someone says something- just
possible.

if you stand in New York Times square and have a store for knives and sell legal knives
and every 2nd day there is a murder from that same knife that you sold... aren't they going to do anything about that??? .... yes, knife is legal but 99% of those knives are helping with crime.. are they going to keep letting you sell those

by importing those knives you are on the hit-list of the authorities because your knives help kill someone..

why was digitalstore in Markham was busted ?.. all 4 located raided.. they were only Selling legal fta system...?


He was busted becuse he was running Nfusion servers in his store....

this is not much of a rumor anymore i just had a look in two of my favorite stores in alberta and all i could find was the remote for a cnx.....:(...........

lol where are the stores in edson or red earth?
trust me they are still available.

what gona happen with cw-600s

this obviously could not be true since parliament is not even sitting at the moment....they've been talking about the home reno credit bill for 6 months but it still hasn't passed, so why would this pass all of a sudden?

A friend of mine who imports many FTA boxes from USA and Asia.

He just got a letter from CBSA.. Canada border and service agency that all FTA receivers that are capable of receiver encrypted programming are not allowed to be released...some importers are not paying the duties of 5% as well...

so all importers that are defining Free to Air equipment on their commercial invoices and have Nfusion on them.. have gotten the letters so far...

If I get a copy of his letter, I will scan and upload... The heat seems to more on focus on nfusion.

Remember, last year, thedigitalstore was busted in Toronto. In Toronto, almost no more sells nfusions any more... The only importer is Angel Electronics on Matheson area. They are bringing all the nfusions in.. that explains why there is a shortage on the receivers

If this is BS, that makes you (or your buddy) a pretty untrustworthy guy. And if it is BS, and everybody calls it that, don't you feel ashamed? You should start back paddling now and lay the blame on your buddy.

All Rumors always start with " A friend of mine ?"
"My friend friend working at ....."

Any new idea ?

All Rumors always start with " A friend of mine ?"
"My friend friend working at ....."

Any new idea ?

Yeah, my sisters' cousins' ex-boyfriends' old landlord........ But that's the joy of the humor/rumor sections.
It's rumor- take it for what it is. If it's BS, life goes on the way it is now. If it's true someone can say- "I
told you so" And if it gets unbearable- always remember to press alt+F4 and forget about it. I've heard some
bug rumors in my life- but less than 10% are real- you have to realize that before you enter this section.

The manufacturers can easly call FTA something else, and NFusion by another name as well. Who's gonna stop that shipment!

I think this is all bs and also a waste of people's time.just like us fools running out buying all these new gadgets from companays taking advantage of tv lovers.STOP SUPPORTING THEM AND YOU WILL SEE HOW FAST A FIX WILL APPEAR. i got this from a coder who said he feels soory for us FOOLS

He was busted becuse he was running Nfusion servers in his store....


he was?...lol good one

he was busted coz he flapped his gums in open forums...

thats what u get when you are stupidly clever...hehe

checked in at my suppler and they have a lot in stock and said no such law......

They do still sell them here in canada where im at they just dont mention about b#v :) and no mention about not being able to get them

Again a rumor not worth the powder to blow it all to hell.This act cannot be passed in this country without a hearing and a decision.The public would be allowed input (they wouldn't listen to us anyway).To ban products from this country would take a major bill to be passed IE the poisionous lead based products being imported by large American retailers have been responsible for death in our countries but are hard to ban.In my opinion and a call to a friend went to unversity with works for the consumer affairs he laughed when i told him this.However if the starter of this rumor would let us know his source we here in Canada can verify this.

I have a 11 meter amp that puts
s of so much rf that comes over my tv and my next door neighbors tv and his telephone and will turn on his out side light and then turn it off i have to put it on room :lol:

I believe Canada should ban the person whom posted this language info, if that person would have look at the banner on top of this page and entered the sales banner they would have noticed that these sites are Canadian, i bought my KBox right from the site that is posted on this top page and the receivers are sold right here in Canada and the receivers are on display in there stores. remember it's only FTA.

please read the rules about inappropriate language

I can't believe this, is this a war on FTA?? I don't hope that we have to "smuggle " fta receivers,that gonna be a business!

Tell me why anyone would let this thread continue. All one has to do is go to flea bay and count all the dealers in Ontario alone that has boxes for sale. It is obviously phony bs and right now I believe we can all agree that enough is truly enough. By the way I always take these rumours for what they are; but come on once proven bs why do they stay?? :thmbdn:

Gotta agree with country dude. Any one hear of Trudeau and "free trade".

what did Trudeau have to do with free trade?
that was mulroney's dead egg.

The chits goin political time to close it,lmao.

ok... its run its course... Thread closed... Thanks to all for the input:)