Word has it B3V is sampling an in house audio compression different then mp3 to send sound enclosed with channels. As they may give up on blocking channels and just killing the audio with a new format by converting mp3 audio to new format before transmission. Thus FTA boxes won't be able to covert Audio stream of channels. Something about flashing B3V boxes thru sat transmission and having the end user having to type in a code from the remote after a call in of a display code that pops up on the screen which activates the new audio decompression software that was flashed in.

The question I have is are the FTA boxes flushable to change the audio decompression from mp3 to what ever a new one would be? If not the the first company that release the first fully flashable Audio and Video uncompress ion format will have record sales.

maybe your FTA wont work but knowing the coders that are out there there wont be any problems with that so we will see=) I really laugh at this new so called step if were true,coders will always be a step ahead of this beautiful hobby=)

Sometimes, I REALLY REALLY wonder where people get these laughable rumors from...

Word has it B3V is sampling an in house audio compression different then mp3 to send sound enclosed with channels.
I suppose it's too bad that they don't use mp3 at all in the first place on any of their channels? The one who started this rumor would at least have some clue of what they use you'd think. This sounds like something someone who has no knowledge of how things work just made up. mp3? LOL. C'mon now...

Thus FTA boxes won't be able to covert Audio stream of channels.
This is almost funnier. Why use the CAS which was intended to do this, for its very purpose, when they could spend millions of $ researching an inferior audio format (likely breaking patents in the process and being sued by patent trolls, having to pay licensing/royalties, etc)? Nevermind that the channels HAVE to use the decoders built-in the decoder chips (like the STi55xx series) inside their units, which won't support new formats like this (much less different generations of different boxes they have in use - it's just IMPOSSIBLE, the support ISN'T there in the silicon).

And if ever they managed to make that miracle, LOTS of FTA boxes use the EXACT same processors inside them (e.g. STi55xx) and therefore would have no problems at all decoding it. Nevermind everyone testing with echostar IRDs (the original hardware, using plastic/atmega/whatever) would be totally unaffected too. And the DVB-S card users could just install a new codec or whatever. So even if they managed to do the impossible, it STILL wouldn't affect a very large portion of the testers.

And no, the decoder chips inside the boxes CANNOT be flashed. This is built in the silicon. No firmware is gonna enable this.

Spending millions of $ to research something that can't be done that still wouldn't affect most testers, instead of letting the CAS system do its very job? (Nevermind there's TONS of things they could do to easily stop us, like using rom206) That's the funniest thing I read in AGES. :lol:

not to make fun of anyone but i cannot image a paying customer putting up with entering a code to watch tv. in that case, they might as well test :D