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jay148
12-08-2007, 09:00 AM
I am interested in purchasing a Viewsat HD receiver, or a Captiveworks HD receiver. Then I come accross this from another site.. Is this guy right? Or just a rumor:
Thanks..

c & P

If your interested in HD signals I suggest you buy a cheap twinhan card and use that in your PC. Why? Because it's cheap. It would very unwise to spend alot of money on an HD reciever based on what's listed on lyngsat or anywhere else for that matter. Why? because alot of those signals may be dissappearing or going encrypted and it may happen sooner than you expect. Many of the network are either in the process of or are planning on going to 8psk and no this is not the kind of 8psk the little dish network tuner module you may have heard about will tune. It's the kind of 8psk that will require a $4000 commerical reciever and a 15ft dish. On top of this many of them are also planing to implement encryption. So, investing any substantial amount of money wouldn't be wise. On the other hand a twinhan card is pretty cheap. So, if you go that route, if worse come to worse, you won't have lost very much.

crahak
12-08-2007, 09:55 AM
This doesn't belong in the rumours section at all...

If your interested in HD signals I suggest you buy a cheap twinhan card and use that in your PC.
That works, if you only want BEV HD (not many chans at all). And want to use your PC to watch TV (or plug TV to PC). That's not exactly the kind of setup most ppl want (a STB).

because alot of those signals may be dissappearing or going encrypted and it may happen sooner than you expect.
BEV and DN HD is already encrypted... Sooner than years ago is uh... Hmmm... OK?
Disappearing? Is he expecting for them to just stop broadcasting at all? The subs would be happy with that I'm sure.

Many of the network are either in the process of or are planning on going to 8psk and no this is not the kind of 8psk the little dish network tuner module you may have heard about will tune.
NA providers (DN/BEV) are moving to Turbo FEC 8PSK. Which is the "non-standard" one. They're using it because they can get away with it without requiring to launch more powerful sats (using the existing ones) and not requiring to upgrade every customer to a bigger dish (albeit at lower FECs, but still gives them a very worthwhile BW boost). European providers are moving to plain old 8PSK, which is part of the DVB-S2 specs. And no, that will NOT require extremely expensive receivers or BUDs either. There are DVB cards under 100$ that do DVB-S2 as well as some new inexpensive FTA boxes, and that work just fine on a 18" dish if you're in the footprint (no, that won't get DN HD or the like). Planning to implement encryption? :lol: Like, that nagravision we might have heard about before? :lol:

So, investing any substantial amount of money wouldn't be wise.
More like, listening to anything this guy says wouldn't be wise. He's 100% wrong on all counts, and only showing his own ignorance.

You don't want a CS box though. Go read the comparison between the diff boxes (I'm not gonna explain it all when all the infos are there). The VS 9000 is a very nice one, and it will work for a long time on both BEV and DN.

@mods, please move thread... May I suggest the Humor section? :|>