Here is some good news from our friends on the inside...

I really can't say all of what I know, but the map EMU is down to just a few routines left. It needs some streamlining and cleaning up, but it IS delivering control words accurately right now. There's a map command and a few other little routines to finish, but they are close. I'd say around February 1st, providers may indeed have a tough time bringing us ALL down for awhile.

We CAN tell you this, though. Providers are pulling out all stops. They are doing things that the card was never intended to do in an effort to squash FTA. Coders really don't seem too worried, though, so neither should you. We may have a bit of a bumpy ride this month, but soon the tide will turn.

Everybody just please remain calm, and check here for the latest updates and be patient and wait!

Have the Coders ever let us down yet?

We have seen many, many worse situations than this!!

Great post, it is always great to have an update.
Thanks,
Jammer

thanks for the information:eek:

Thanks for the update,

That is good to hear. Thanks for the post and information.

excellent news

Glad to hear the good news!! we should be proud of OUR Coder as they do, do an excellent job!! keeping us up and running and i have all the faith in them!!

:):):)
we all should give them a pat on the back!!

:D Great post! Good to get positive information instead of all the whining about the coders not having a fix out. Keep up the good work.......:yes:

GREAT NEWS GIGSTER... AN EXCELLENT POST! :clap:
Well done buddy, keep up the good work!:thmbup:

Like I've said in a recent post, I'll put money on my coders on this game!!!:smoke:

Thanx agin, keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks gigster that is good news .

Thanks for the "good news".

Thanks for the info.

thanks for that great update, gigster.

happy holidays

Very very positive news - can't wait.

wonderful news to hear long live FTA's & Coders

Thanks to all who work hard to help keep us watching the TV we all LOVE.... BIGDADDY

very good news the coders for presidents on 08

NNNNNNNNNNNNiiiiiiiiiCCCCCCCCCceeeeeeeeee!!!:smoke :

Thanks for the news

Thanks for the news. Onward we go.

sounds great hope it comes sooner than later!

that is exciting.:clap:..thanks for keeping us up to date, looking forward to a new fix!!:D

way to go, thanks to all coders.

Thank You for giving us positive info, keep on truckin!!!

Coders Have Always Come Thru!!! Thanks Guys!!

Great Feedback.

Mucho Thanks for the info

Great to hear the news...great work guys!

great news, good to hear

Good...
Keep up the good work.
We will remain optimistic.

Here is some good news from our friends on the inside...

I really can't say all of what I know, but the map EMU is down to just a few routines left. It needs some streamlining and cleaning up, but it IS delivering control words accurately right now. There's a map command and a few other little routines to finish, but they are close. I'd say around February 1st, providers may indeed have a tough time bringing us ALL down for awhile.

We CAN tell you this, though. Providers are pulling out all stops. They are doing things that the card was never intended to do in an effort to squash FTA. Coders really don't seem too worried, though, so neither should you. We may have a bit of a bumpy ride this month, but soon the tide will turn.

Everybody just please remain calm, and check here for the latest updates and be patient and wait!

Have the Coders ever let us down yet?

We have seen many, many worse situations than this!!

Care to post your source?

Good news. thank you coders for all your hard work, you are the greatest.

Thank you your update

Thanks for the update.

thanks for info

Hey Slimjim, first of all learn how to spell, second if the info you get from other "sights" is so reliable then why are you even here? Oh, I bet the other place doesn,t have a fix either and you were hoping to find one here.Every time we have a major issue, the coders tell us that it might be awhile for a fix and as of yet i have not heard from the people that know that this is the case. The sky might be falling in your world, but stop pissing on everybody else's parade!

Thanks for the update, and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.
gioleooleo

FIRST IT WAS GOING TO BE IN JANUARY NOW IT,s FEBUARY. YOU NO SOMETHING, I THINK IT,s A LOT OF HOOPLA. JUST STALLING TACKTICKs. IT IS GOING TO BE MORE DOWN THEN UP. FROME WHAT I SEE AND READ FROME OTHER SIGHTs. THESE ARE THE FACKS. AND NO BODY WANTS TO ADMIT IT....THE END IS NEARE. MARK MY WORDS.............


You have to be positive the coders do a great job they haven't let us down yet there job isn't easy just give them sometime bottom line is we are all in the same boat you are not the only one this is happenening to so stop being all doom and gloom a fix will be out at least you still have something but if you don't like being down then sub and all your problems will be solved

p.s. don't write in caps it means your screaming and this is nothing to scream about

FIRST IT WAS GOING TO BE IN JANUARY NOW IT,s FEBUARY. YOU NO SOMETHING, I THINK IT,s A LOT OF HOOPLA. JUST STALLING TACKTICKs. IT IS GOING TO BE MORE DOWN THEN UP. FROME WHAT I SEE AND READ FROME OTHER SIGHTs. THESE ARE THE FACKS. AND NO BODY WANTS TO ADMIT IT....THE END IS NEARE. MARK MY WORDS.............

We'll see bro ,;)

FIRST IT WAS GOING TO BE IN JANUARY NOW IT,s FEBUARY. YOU NO SOMETHING, I THINK IT,s A LOT OF HOOPLA. JUST STALLING TACKTICKs. IT IS GOING TO BE MORE DOWN THEN UP. FROME WHAT I SEE AND READ FROME OTHER SIGHTs. THESE ARE THE FACKS. AND NO BODY WANTS TO ADMIT IT....THE END IS NEARE. MARK MY WORDS.............

Looks like someone's second grade kid got ahold of the computer for a few while they were away.

Stick around and watch ... I've been in this game for years and the coders haven't failed, some information may be kept private, some information we may not ever get but the coders don't fail. This is a great group and when the fix is out it will be shared and YES it is coming.;)

Looks like someone's second grade kid got ahold of the computer for a few while they were away.

Stick around and watch ... I've been in this game for years and the coders haven't failed, some information may be kept private, some information we may not ever get but the coders don't fail. This is a great group and when the fix is out it will be shared and YES it is coming.;)

Well put PapaBear, i second the motion

What a wonderful message. I find it both enlightening and refreshing. Thank you

its too bad that there is such negativity around isnt it, i fairly new to the fta world ( last year and a half) and this is the longest i have been down...

the end is near...no i dont think so, gives me the opportunity to do some reading, educate myself...and perhaps be somewhat more knowledgeable in the fta world..

from what i have seen and read, the CODERS do a FANTASTIC job, FTA BINS puts the fixes out when they receive them....they have proven that time and time again......i have great faith that the CODERS will come through....its all just a matter of time, which we all seem to have...be patient..perhaps the end is near, but not the ending some are thinking of, LOL!!!!

Gloom and Doom..... Why don't all the naysayers just sell their receivers and stay off of this site. It will come. I have faith. As for those who don't Happy trails:yes:

Take note! Most of the naysayers do not have "supporter", "admin", or anything similar below their name. Most of these bringers of gloom have "New Member" below their name with very few posts.

Thanks for the up date. I hope everyone has a Happy New Year...

Lots of enjoyable channels left. I would have gotten into FTA for the number of channels that are surviving the ecm right now. Pick a channel and watch tv. The new bin will be a nice plus, but i don't consider myself "needing" it at the moment. But I guess you offer a man the world and he will be demanding it shortly after.

The previous 2 ECM were explained in great detail and it was really fun to read about them. Just out of curiosity - has anyone posted any info on the latest ECM (on this or any other site)?

To all the people who are "consumers" because they bought a box thinking it was great to get free tv! You've taken up the wrong road, this should be a hobby, if this is your only source of TV then I suggest downloading something to watch. I've been at this game since the days of the very first bootloader boards for Dave! Its a cat and mouse game, some can code, some can't, some try, some learn, the rest wait patiently for those that can! Others whine, why don't i have my free tv, i spent all this money and for what! if you didn't know what you were getting into and you can't code it, Wait, or as others have suggested sell your stuff to someone who will! As for the those who are coding, learning or helping, Praise be to you for tolerating the hogwash that comes out of the mouths of the free Tv'ers and keep up the good work! As always the more they attack, the closer the coders are going to be to understanding how the changes are happening and develop a way to deal with it!

Hail to the Coders!

Battle of the Bulge?


Well, this is it folks. I am calling it the Battle of the Bulge. This is the final desperate push by Nagra to defeat all hardware emulators. The stakes could not be higher: if they win, no single stand-alone hardware emulator is coming back. If they lose, they have nothing else to throw at us, at least nothing harder than this.

Their tactic is the (expected) timer hash of Map0x57. Map0x57, as most coders know is a convoluted implementation of elliptic curve multiplication (ECC). Timing a standard ECC function is hard enough, but timing a proprietary one is much, much harder - if not impossible.

My plan is to counter this attack with my favourite weapon of choice: statistics.It worked well for us last time, lets hope it works out this time too.

For those who are culturally deprived, the Battle of the Bulge was the last desperate offensive by the Germans, prepared with skill and secrecy, to capture the key strategic city of Bastogne around Christmas of 1944. Greatly outnumbered and outflanked, the allies held the city and the men who survived came to be known as the "Battered ******** of Bastogne".

Lets see what the battered, ******* coders can do this time around...wish me luck!

This makes me feel good.. thank you for the update and thanks to all the coders

me too! good luck to you & all the coders live long & prosper!!!

Battle of the Bulge?


Well, this is it folks. I am calling it the Battle of the Bulge. This is the final desperate push by Nagra to defeat all hardware emulators. The stakes could not be higher: if they win, no single stand-alone hardware emulator is coming back. If they lose, they have nothing else to throw at us, at least nothing harder than this.

Their tactic is the (expected) timer hash of Map0x57. Map0x57, as most coders know is a convoluted implementation of elliptic curve multiplication (ECC). Timing a standard ECC function is hard enough, but timing a proprietary one is much, much harder - if not impossible.

My plan is to counter this attack with my favourite weapon of choice: statistics.It worked well for us last time, lets hope it works out this time too.

For those who are culturally deprived, the Battle of the Bulge was the last desperate offensive by the Germans, prepared with skill and secrecy, to capture the key strategic city of Bastogne around Christmas of 1944. Greatly outnumbered and outflanked, the allies held the city and the men who survived came to be known as the "Battered ******** of Bastogne".

Lets see what the battered, ******* coders can do this time around...wish me luck!

Best of luck to you and all coders....lets KA

keep up the good work , we are depending on you guys

Tank 788 ... Thank you. Please provide as requested in other threads, some info as to what we are dealing with and the programs to work with it. I used to work with Dave and would be willing to help here but back then (the HU stream) we knew what processor we were dealing with and the hash codes, we also knew what programs to use to read and edit the code. I work full time and test part time, don't have all the time in the world to research and find out what processor we are dealing with, what software is necessary to read / write with, etc ... what do I need to do to help? Back in the days of H and HU this info was readily available. Everyone coding now seems to not want to give this info. Hell back then I had a bin I could load which would report the hash to me on a certain channel. Now I can't do anything but wait for the coders. (Coders today are much greater than I ever was, I simply redirected hashes back then, they have to re-invent the programming now.)
Some of us however may be a bit of help if we have the info necessary to help. Please help us help you!

Battle of the Bulge?


Well, this is it folks. I am calling it the Battle of the Bulge. This is the final desperate push by Nagra to defeat all hardware emulators. The stakes could not be higher: if they win, no single stand-alone hardware emulator is coming back. If they lose, they have nothing else to throw at us, at least nothing harder than this.

Their tactic is the (expected) timer hash of Map0x57. Map0x57, as most coders know is a convoluted implementation of elliptic curve multiplication (ECC). Timing a standard ECC function is hard enough, but timing a proprietary one is much, much harder - if not impossible.

My plan is to counter this attack with my favourite weapon of choice: statistics.It worked well for us last time, lets hope it works out this time too.

For those who are culturally deprived, the Battle of the Bulge was the last desperate offensive by the Germans, prepared with skill and secrecy, to capture the key strategic city of Bastogne around Christmas of 1944. Greatly outnumbered and outflanked, the allies held the city and the men who survived came to be known as the "Battered ******** of Bastogne".

Lets see what the battered, ******* coders can do this time around...wish me luck!

Damm I love u guy's:worship: good luck & happy new year

Tank 788
This is a copy and paste from ID.I know who the originator is.Give credit where credit is due.

everyone shake hands ... back to their corners ... come out fighting.

Is PM not working?

we all forget to thank the parents of these coders..with them we;d be lost...thaks to the coders:clap:

:D

I am new at this FTA stuff. But when it goes down it seems the same as my sub package. I have 4 or 5 sportsnet channels and every time there's a hockey game on them they are blacked out, you only see it if you live local.

So if I get them for free when things are up good for me and everyone else that gets blacked out while paying.

Who ever the coders are, keep up what you do best. People crying and complaining about it. Well people do this in every thing, you should see the hockey team I coach.

Keep up the great work..........

All I can Say is I can't Say thanks so Much To All The Coders For All the Hours Of Work,they have Put in to this!!!! Please Have a Very Happy New Year To All But Big One to the Coders. Wth Out You We would be no Wear!!!!! :smoke::smoke::worship: :clap:

Originally Posted by slimjim View Post
FIRST IT WAS GOING TO BE IN JANUARY NOW IT,s FEBUARY. YOU NO SOMETHING, I THINK IT,s A LOT OF HOOPLA. JUST STALLING TACKTICKs. IT IS GOING TO BE MORE DOWN THEN UP. FROME WHAT I SEE AND READ FROME OTHER SIGHTs. THESE ARE THE FACKS. AND NO BODY WANTS TO ADMIT IT....THE END IS NEARE. MARK MY WORDS.............Looks like someone's second grade kid got ahold of the computer for a few while they were away.

Stick around and watch ... I've been in this game for years and the coders haven't failed, some information may be kept private, some information we may not ever get but the coders don't fail. This is a great group and when the fix is out it will be shared and YES it is coming.;)

just so we all remember what the good news was :read:
and to help with my post count :evil:
p.s. captiveworks 600p is watchin all kool:thmbup:kool
p.s.s. I want my cnx mini back :censored:

Hey SlimJim while you're waiting for your porno to be turned back on for free, figure out how to turn on spell check on your computer

Care to post your source?


that was a real dumb question,,,

would you post your's ??????

While this is down look up some english Slimjim and call a provider to get a package for
big bucks and you won't be down anymore!

No kidding!

If it goes down oh well. Time to look at digital OTA. Reception is free !!

Thanks for the update, it's always nice to know where we stand.

Thanks for the update and keep up with outstanding work you guys and gals and have done for us. thanks...!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for the info.:thmbup:

Are you saying Feb 1/08 for new bin?????????

keep the good work and hapy new year

Thanks for the updated info
i am out in Gods land with no tv for over a month now

Right on Great news..........Keep us up to date, thanks

Hey to all

I'm a new member of this site and so far I am empressed with it.
I also have confedent in the CODERS, they are doing a great job.
PS: Don't forget if it was not for the CODERS we would not be in this site or any other.
There would not be any "Free To Air"

So let's all be pationt.

"Sorry about my Spelling, it's always been bad"

Happy Hollidays

Beowolf

Thanks for the info. More power to our coders and Happy New Year to everyone!

thank very much.coderS go go go go go go go. got bless viva AMERICA AND FTA.


THANK YOU CODERS. YOU KICK FACE

This is really great new!!! :)
My family & I am completely taken!!! :yes:
I am so happy that I will put up my Arms & Legs for the sacrificial ceremony!!! :worship:
I will give each and everyone in my street a complete system installed!!! :clap:
A keg of beer for everyone here!!! :thmbup:




Wait.. wait..wait............hummmm......???

I just notice the titile Rumors above...hummm...I'll take back every word here, sorry.

It's always good to hear a progress report that really shows progress.

All too often we run into someone whining about no support or how they figure the FTA community is letting them down.

Good work folks, and excellent reporting.

GP

Just remember when your in Germany and You see a coder in a bar order them a round.

I hope this turns out to be true!

As was stated, when have the coders let us down?

Thanks for all your hard work coders and thanks so much for this community everyone.

Thanks for the news, to all the coders tks:thmbup:

good to hear some good news finally

great news,as a tester for years I have learned to always sit back and wait,enjoy tv while it last.If it was the end of free tv today I can say I had my fun.Thanks to all the coders for your great work.blues24

whats the good news???????

Well lets kick butt. Light from the stars is free just like air. It is not my Faught I was born with a Brain.. LOL.... All want to control. Well it is still a free planet MOSTELY. LOL.. Have fun

this news have made us happy! thanks for your information.

I am such I nice guy I will say it this way. In 1982 HBO said I wont be able to watch TV with my 12 foot Paraclipse. Well not everyone works at K-Mart.... There going to get butt kicked again.... LOL... This signature?
Captain Midnight.... LOL
Stand by for news. Its 2008 Im retired and....... Bored so I need to play with my electronics. Love to All..... If they keep gettin mean than maybe 1KW at 12GHZ up from my Antenna will stop the messing with ECM's for awhile. No I cant do that. Someone might get mad. LOL. Can I say that LOL.... The Telport I worked at in Homestead florada was Kwel. Anyone ever heard of Pan Am Sat? We put the first Bird in Space... If you bought stock called "SPOT" on Nasdeck ya be rich. Have fun to all. Going back into deep black Hole. LOL... y BY.. >> (--... ...--)'s

hi i been waiting for the new 159 bin for my coolset 600 premium that would be good news. i ordered digital cable an a new nfusion yesderay. i know its just a hobby but coders i look forward to seeing the new 159 bin soon for the rest of the coolset owners. thanks for trying anyways.

Yep thats right its 2008 and after the DN lawsuit stuff settles we should see some new
Bins coming out!!

that was an intelligent post michel22 do ya got any other smart things to say? im sure we'd all love to hear lol

fuk fta and coders

hmmm...nice post if that how ya feel...why u still here...duhhhh:sly:

love it or leave it

fuk fta and coders

With a message like that I hope you get kicked off this site. This site is way to good for a person like you but I am sure that there is a site for you out there somewhere. If you don't like it leave, there are lots of good people here and we don't need you. :thmbdn:

Well looks like you might have a record here for most negative points.
9 posts and -5 reps looks good on you.:thmbdn:
No one said you have to be here.
Whiners gotta hate em.:mad:

we box owners are getting fuk by this site and the coders sp fuk them this site and fta ill say again and again fuk all of you who don;t like what iam saying eat shit

I don't understand why you would get so worked up. There is nothing keeping you here, you can leave any time. If you have FTA equipment there is a 4sale area here or ebay, either way sell your equipment and get a sub, and be happy. Getting this worked will probably just kill you, it really is not worth it. :confused: I don't think you will be missed from here if leave, so just leave!:!:

wow, that guy really needs a fix bad. some kind.

I want to wish all of FTAbins moderators and peace keepers and coders a very Happy New Year full of good health and happiness. I personally believe that bev and dn have come up with a programme that will for always be shutting down on everyone. So be it, it's just so nice that there is sites like this, and coders out there working their tales off trying to help those who cant afford satellite or dont want to pay for satellite. I think you are a terrific bunch and appreciate everything you do for everyone
Lots of good wishes
Diana

With a message like that I hope you get kicked off this site. This site is way to good for a person like you but I am sure that there is a site for you out there somewhere. If you don't like it leave, there are lots of good people here and we don't need you. :thmbdn:

Honestly, I did not wish him a happy new year while showing him to the door but it did hit his $ss (I think).. Asta la vista baby! lol

I want to wish all of FTAbins moderators and peace keepers and coders a very Happy New Year full of good health and happiness. I personally believe that bev and dn have come up with a programme that will for always be shutting down on everyone. So be it, it's just so nice that there is sites like this, and coders out there working their tales off trying to help those who cant afford satellite or dont want to pay for satellite. I think you are a terrific bunch and appreciate everything you do for everyone
Lots of good wishes
Diana


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Well said.....You have said it all.:worship:

Here is some good news from our friends on the inside...

I really can't say all of what I know, but the map EMU is down to just a few routines left. It needs some streamlining and cleaning up, but it IS delivering control words accurately right now. There's a map command and a few other little routines to finish, but they are close. I'd say around February 1st, providers may indeed have a tough time bringing us ALL down for awhile.

We CAN tell you this, though. Providers are pulling out all stops. They are doing things that the card was never intended to do in an effort to squash FTA. Coders really don't seem too worried, though, so neither should you. We may have a bit of a bumpy ride this month, but soon the tide will turn.

Everybody just please remain calm, and check here for the latest updates and be patient and wait!

Have the Coders ever let us down yet?

We have seen many, many worse situations than this!!

You really should make this known that this post is a copy and paste from another website instead of making it seem like you wrote it

Thank you, good to hear!

i noticed that too captain. but atleast people are informd here now.

I for one am grateful to gigsters post (weather he originally wrote it or not) and appreciate any news.As for some of the negative remarks i've seen, about doom ,destruction ,and the end of fta in general,i ask of these folks how much they've spent on their box and set up?A mere drop in the jar I'm sure if look at what it would have cost to pay the sub's for what we have received.I've heard it cost $7,500 or more a year to get the shows we've been viewing, and don't doubt it.If you don't have at least a basic sub, or a antenna set up, then you've probably been ticked off (your fault entirely ,sorry). Only been in the game about a year and half and have seen channels i thought i would never receive or much less have.Yea, i know coders more than likely get payed but it does'nt mean we can't be grateful for what we get, when we the coders are successful. Hope most people agree on this, if not sorry (just my 2cents anyway)

Gigster.. first rate original post and it has been repeated outside of other "sites" if you will from fairly reliable sources.. Great info and rep added:) Keep us informed.

thanks for the update

i see light at the end of the tunnel.

You are the best of of 2008 keep it up!:|>

Thanks for the update :)

It does sound good, but the lack of temp fixes has forced my hand, just ordered a CW box.

I really don't get this "I'd rather wait for the full solution" thinking from VS and SV. The CW owners have been watching TV with the CW "temp" fixes all this time.

For me, this remains a hobby, I am still a tester. It will be nice to have a box and bins to test with again.

I am hearing rumors of administrator/mods testing a temp VS bin, probably bs because posted at ecoustics. Nevertheless anybody heard if there are people watchin tv on VS. Another guy says TDG says he is watchin a test file?? This is the rumor section RIGHT??

Good to see that the whining has stopped. Coders need to hear support not whining. CaptiveWorks has codes out (apparently) so I have faith that more will be out soon.

I am hearing rumors of administrator/mods testing a temp VS bin, probably bs because posted at ecoustics. Nevertheless anybody heard if there are people watchin tv on VS. Another guy says TDG says he is watchin a test file?? This is the rumor section RIGHT??

Someone give me that "test bin?" lmao.. right! I have been testing my snow removal skills. Tis true, this IS the rumour section and it's always good for putting a smile on your face:)

Thanks for the info.......Great post!! Coders & Mods you guys are the best.

every one is quick to point out captive works is working but one post I read says it is freezing all the time. To all the whiners; just get a paid script, and you are not to late to cut your channels in half from what we are watching right now for a low low price of about 60 bucks a month. Personnally I will be patient (not one of my strong points either) and wait. 200 plus channels is still nothing to cry about.

Someone give me that "test bin?" lmao.. right! I have been testing my snow removal skills. Tis true, this IS the rumour section and it's always good for putting a smile on your face:)

Snow removal skills? ha! ha! :P

I am staying indoors today, because it is currently 48°F in Miami and I will not be able to wear shorts to mow the lawn. :mad:

:Peace:

Thanks for the update and thanks to all the coders who are working hard to get all of us up and running.

keep waiting!! i been reading on other sites its going to be the end of january before a new fix comes out . that for viewsat any way. so dont get to excited. lol

great news lets give them a run for their money keep up the good work happpppy neeeew year

every one is quick to point out captive works is working but one post I read says it is freezing all the time. To all the whiners; just get a paid script, and you are not to late to cut your channels in half from what we are watching right now for a low low price of about 60 bucks a month. Personnally I will be patient (not one of my strong points either) and wait. 200 plus channels is still nothing to cry about.

Maybe ,
but if you turn off AutoRoll or at the very least turn the unit off at back every 2-3 hours as needed .. works great.
it does not freeze..
yes it takes a while 5 to 20 seconds for channels to come in.
but at least we have full channels.
like an old Chev Chevette cheap to buy and always reliable.
go Captive go!!!!:thmbup:

not a very accurate post ,thanks for the false hope .

This thread has just about run its course. Just useing up space now on the server maybe a mod should evaluate?