I asked the mods and they said this subject was OK.

Anyhow, a few weeks ago, a hacker got control of the TotalFTA domain name and then tried to pass his site off as the real total. The real total then set up shop as TheTotal. But now, when you go over there, it says that the site has moved to FTAHq. Meanwhile, if you go to the original TotalFta site, the guy now has a fake forum there. He wants people to enter their names and personal information. The problem is that anything you enter over there, gets sold to the highest bidder.

I'm not sure what to think, but it appears that Total (all three of them) has become a very dangerous site to visit.

I asked the mods and they said this subject was OK.

Anyhow, a few weeks ago, a hacker got control of the TotalFTA domain name and then tried to pass his site off as the real total. The real total then set up shop as TheTotal. But now, when you go over there, it says that the site has moved to FTAHq. Meanwhile, if you go to the original TotalFta site, the guy now has a fake forum there. He wants people to enter their names and personal information. The problem is that anything you enter over there, gets sold to the highest bidder.

I'm not sure what to think, but it appears that Total (all three of them) has become a very dangerous site to visit.

Yeah, it's all a bit creepy ... totalfta seems total bunk to me, but thetotalfta/ftahq has done themselves some damage in changing domain names yet again, IMO. I'm making this site my site of choice, much more stable, no drama and he-said-she-said ... :\

No drama here? Guess you haven't been on lately. HAHAHA! Just kidding. This is a great site with lots of really good info and as far as I can tell so far very safe.

What's really odd, no warning?

There may be an explanation on the site, are you gonna log in ?

b

What's really odd, no warning?

There may be an explanation on the site, are you gonna log in ?

b
I logged in -WTH! Asked a mod for details... Site seems to be exactly the same, new name...

check this out >>>

hxxp://www.ftahq.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93770 (I hope this doesn't upset mod/admin!)

After reading this, it is a legit name change.

b

FTAHQ Site seems legit, was the first to release bev fix for the VSPRO, and I assume will be first with the rest of the VS files

:cool: I would advice everyone to just stay away from those sites. You have the greatest fta site here anyways.:clap:

Keep out of sites like that. After all any new files come here. So what`s the rash? A few minutes later is not a big deal.

From what I saw it looked pretty good at the new addy. Been a mbr there for a bit and its the same people, had my account, just different site name. Checked out the old one and it wants me to register and they completely changed everything about the look of the site. Needless to say, I wont be creating an account.

Ummm... I like to get my info from more than one book....

Many of us are members of many sites.

b

It is a bit weird that they would change names again with no warning or announcement in breaking news
When I loged in the site seem the same. you would think with the auto redirect it should be legit
I plan to avoid the site for a wile till things settle down
This site is great also

This time they not only changed domain names but also changed the name of their site. The only TotalFTA that exists right now is the hacker that is trying to get your personal info to sell to dish. Also, he has a "NoIP" logo at the bottom of his page. Given his credibility, you can bet he is logging IPs.

I have seen several times when everybody else had a viewsat fix before total. So they aren't always the first site to get fixes.

This guy warns not to go to either site. Here is a Excerpted CP from another site:

<<<<<<<<
by lunavic50

#1 the domain was not hijacked but taken back due to a falling out between partners.
... He is running the site the way he thinks it is supposed to be run. The server is now offshore (for her protection lol) and the site appears to be up.

It appears that the server of thetotalfta.com is located out of texas...hmmmm This is my opinion should raise a huge red flag. The chances of a file site hosted in the US not either getting busted or have been busted is slim to none.

Also the security of that site is next to nothing. The admin cp link thetotalfta.com/admincp) hxxp://www.thetotalfta.com/admincp leads to al7bar.tk?
and thetotalfta.com/forums/admincp) hxxp://www.thetotalfta.com/forums/admincp links to totalfta!!!! That is enough proof to me that thetotalfta is up to no good....

It appears that the threat here is thetotalfta.com...... If you are a user there then stop going. Any file site hosted in the US is asking for trouble if not already in. From what I have been told the owner of that site would sell his members out in a second!!!!!

The tide has turned and we are now urging all members of thetotalfta.com to discontinue their association for they are in real danger. This goes for the mods also!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now I'm freaking out. I guess its best to stay away from total and HqFTA or whatever.

thanks CausticSoda for the news.

hello
that site is wired 1 month ago i vistited the site and asked some questions and made some jokes next think i get a pm from some mods that have been suspendet. i tought fta forums should be fun place to hang out
so what i think they are suspending alot of people some guys just got upset and hijacked the site

this is 'THE ONE AND ONLY 'site I need ,i cant get anything anywhere else i cant get here,so why bother with any another site FTA rocks !!!!!!!!!!!!

Happened again - 07/01/17....

" Last evening someone broke into our server and copied our entire database. We believe the site owner's email was compromised. This may also be how the old domain was taken. It is a shame that there are some who will go to any length to attack this site. I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause the membership. I do recommend everyone change their password to this site.
Needless to say the entire team here is very upset over this incident. We intend to move forward with a push toward greater site security. Needless to say all staff and site access passwords have been changed.

Warthog "

i agree with char this is the only site i need.

this is my top site, and use a couple others when this one is too busy and i know that a fix is already out.

There's nothing wrong with the site totalfta.When all that stuff was going on with them,they have posted something that said that there was some other people out there that claimed to be them,and these "other" people are saying that the site name was changed to "thetotalfta"!On totalfta(the real one)they have warned people to stay away from that other site!Again it's not thetotalfta,it's just totalfta!And like many others said,why even worry about whatever is going on with them,when you can get whatever you need from here!

for now, I would stay off both sites. too much head games. Plus, you dont need any other site but ftabins :p

FTAHQ seems legit it accepted my name and pass been a member for over a year but still feel creepy looking around in there what ya think?

Another reason to love ftabins. :)

That whole situation (at TOTAL) is a mess ... seems to me like a partnership might have gone sour and one guy locks the other guy out, the domain name was not up for renewal so forget that as a possible reason for all the crap.

Why if you were locked out of the board would you not just FTP in to the provider and blow the directory away?

The real question, is who has all of the original user data?

Creative Genius

I read this thread on Total and only one thing sticks out.

Some members keep going back for more data or to see what is up. Why? :no:

Yes, the vast majority of belong to several. I >20.

But I mostly stay home and do not go out. "Mom" suggest I stay home because you can not trust anyone. And if I stay home I will be safe and I will be rewarded. So I stay put.

Some do not believe the stove is hot, when told, and that it will burn you and can not withstand the idea of finding out for themselves. Foulish right.
Others get burned and are not too bright and can not remember how much it hurt, so they so it again.
And yet others will keep checking to see if it is still hot???-WOW

Some take take longer to learn and others will never learn.

I will stay home. Thanks FTABINS!!!!!!!!!

Here at home we are safe-Stay home guys...?

so which site is the real one i use to use tfta until it was always busy and then one day i logged back on and the site changed i reregisted and everything i guess ill never go back on that site again

Your old tfta username and password will work on ftahq,it's the same set up they use to have before,but don't go nowhere else,you got everything you need here!

wats up with the ftahq thing on vs extreme menu??

wats up with the ftahq thing on vs extreme menu??

Think about it:) :) :D

The fact is that neither web site (TheTotal, Total, and FTAHq) is legit any more. The original total was obviously not taken by a hacker as was claimed by the people at TheTotalFta. If it was, one call to Godaddy and the site would have been restored. They might have had it for a few hours, but that is it.

So what it looks like is that one guy had control of the domain name and the other had the server. Now neither have anything. I noticed that neither had any ads displaying.

But if you can believe the admin there, BOTH have our usernames, passwords and email addresses. I signed into TotalFta with a new ID and a borrowed IP address and found that all the previous posts from total are there. Still, I recommend that nobody else try it.

The mods over there have threatened to ban me more than once because I said the PVR 7000 had a bug in it. There is a good reason why I refused to allow my Viewsat PVR Convert program to be posted over there. Its posted exclusively here. Over there, my posts, avatars and personal settings have been modified and deleted from time to time by those mods. That kind of thing has never happened to me here.

That's why I agree that this is a much better site.

the truth is in the new viewsat bin after you Load it turn it on click menu, look in the top right corner web site right there says ftahq

Good post zippy.. and if I might add - if it aint there.. I would think twice about using bins that are suspect.. Zippy905 posts are extrodinarily reliable!

It is the only site I know of that you DO NOT have to LOG ON to get a fix. XXX had their site hacked as well. Seems to be the way with theses FTA sites.(forums lol)
Anyway my point is that Not logging on to get a fix would be ONE thing I would think MOST would appreciate.

Who cares about IP logging. It means absolutely nothing. Who cares about who gets what first. If you have to wait for a few hours or days to watch free TV. Phhhhhit!

Do NOT POST EXTERNAL LINKS TO OTHER FTA SITES. LAST WARNING!

so is the vs extreme supposed to have the ftahq on the menu or not??

so is the vs extreme supposed to have the ftahq on the menu or not??

yes

Do NOT POST EXTERNAL LINKS TO OTHER FTA SITES. LAST WARNING!

No "LINK" was posted.Spare me the drama dude.:rolleyes::yawn:

WWW.HTTP//XXX.Bla Bla Bla.com would be a"link".

If you meant that a person is not allowed to post other site names. Hey, Im fine with that. :worship:
The Pure site was hacked as was TOTAL..:o.. Nothing new in the world of FTA forums.

Cheers!

No "LINK" was posted.Spare me the drama dude.:rolleyes::yawn:

WWW.HTTP//XXX.Bla Bla Bla.com would be a"link".

If you meant that a person is not allowed to post other site names. Hey, Im fine with that. :worship:
The Pure site was hacked as was TOTAL..:o.. Nothing new in the world of FTA forums.

Cheers!

Ummm.. le's just say we all know what happened to total. Admin and mods have agreed that members of this site should be aware of that particular situation as many here are members there as well, thus allowing the thread to continue. When other sites start being mentioned, it surely smacks of site promotion. See post #33 of this thread:eyes_closed: dude!
Rule #8 - Do not post names or links to other FTA or FTA related websites. Including FTA forums/websites/stores/etc. The exception are links to manufacture websites and advertiser/sponsor websites of FTABins.NET. Use common sense as always.. See the edit note? The link was editted to XXX .

Refer to # 30 where "TotalFTA" is mentioned. No WARNING there.:read: Why would I think that PureXXX.(lol):eek: is anything different with mentioning?
Humour me with the idea of promoting their site.
The fact that no log on being required was my point.:idea:

Hope this helps....:)

This is not good news!

" Until Jung Kwak and those other bunch of stupid dumbass's can stop putting hidden urls inside of the menu screens then they can all go to hell period. The sections will remain closed and no vs files will be allowed on site until the stop this crap.

Like Viewsat needs to put urls linking there 3 party fix's to a site that has had its database stolen 3 times already and lost its domain names because of stupidity.

In short its screws everyone. Grow up Jung Kawk and stop the bullcrap.

Anyone that has a viewsat is strongly recommended you dump the box's while you can still sell them.

Blind Scan "

b

BTW - I'll include the site if it's ok'd by mod/admin

Whats up with this post i was at that site when they closed vs files , whats the problem ?

Whats up with this post i was at that site when they closed vs files , whats the problem ?
That site's *.com logo appearing upon loading the *.bin (in the upper right corner of the screen) is causing quite a furor! I would presume other sites are less than impressed!

Another group of coders would have to be employed to remove the logo from the bin...

I'm going out on a limb here - but I would not be surprised if the bins (VS) will start to cost $$$, as this prophesied EMU becomes a reality - what do you think?

I love my VSU, however, as 'Blind Scan' strongly recommends - dump your VS'!

A lot of BS has been fling about in the past couple of weeks, domains stolen as well as data bases, etc., etc.

I don't think this is in keeping with FTA spirit!

* I went through my bookmarks (which I haven't done in a while), to check some other sites - sites are gone!

Anyone else?

b

BTW - I don't give a crap about hidden ads, nor am I really concerned about VS... I have Tv...

I highly doubt that VS will be dropped from other sites .. IMO BlindScan is definately stiring the pot here... im keeping my Viewsats .. and im positive bins will still be released.

Look at the CW 800 Loader v 2 that says there is a BUG in Loader V 1 - Blind Scan placed HIS SITE LOGO Embedded at the top corner of the loader so he can advertise his HOME SITE. Why should he be worried what Viewsat Does with links then // Unless he is jealous that they are beating Coolsat in the FTA code .. Not good to be a Hypocrite..

Long Live VIEWSAT ! :clap::thmbup:

Message From Viewsat Coders and Cyphris
The banner in the file was decided to be done to set the record straight who the real VS Home site is. xxxxxx is one of my frequent visited sites. I post this explanation to its members that this banner was a one time deal and will not be in any other upcoming releases. It is in no way to disrespect other sites but to let the Viewsat owners know who the real VS home is. I'd like to thank xxxxxx for all they have done to help with the confusion as of late. This is definitely a place I can say is a top notch site with a great bunch of Mods and members.
l
ike i said b4 it was to clear up the mess with which site was real and fake.

<SOAPBOX MODE ON>
If <that site hq> really is the official viewsat release site, then viewsat is too stupid to have me as a customer. <that site> has been consistently down. The slightest bit of server load and it goes down. Half the time when I go there, it sends me to a fedora startup page. Meaning that they can't even configure their web server correctly. Tonight I go there and it says they are down again because someone was trying to hack in. Meanwhile, when I went to the original <that site>, at least once since this all started, and they had the fixes before the official <the-that site>.

Viewsat needs to wake up and smell the poop. Its their customers that made them what they are and not the people at <that site>. The folks at <that site> have made their site unstable - both psychiatricly and server wise. Hackers had nothing to do with it. Viewsat isn't going to sell any receivers if they don't support them adequately. They need to pick several RELIABLE fta sites and not have a favorite.
</SOAP BOX MODE OFF>

Soda .. good post ! I am an ADMIN at 2 FTA sites and own 1 of these FTA sites, and if Coders of a certain MODEL FTA came to me and wanted to release FILES for that unit on my site with another sites logo on it .. I couldnt care less, I would be OK with it, go for it !.. the members of this FTA community will know which site gives them the good support they need. .. we are ALL are in this game for the same result .. thats TV, One site is not better then another just because they get the fix first for just 1 FTA Model unit , its the site that has the overall support for ALL UNITS and also helping members in their time of mishaps and need and having the latest Bin Files posted in swift time to get people back TV for ALL units not just one model .. I hate when people like Hypocrite Mr. BlindScan starts moaning ( Like in November when we were down for almost 1 month and he stated ("Nfusion will be the only model working" = we all see thats was a joke. Yes, nFusion is on their game, but we also have clone models still working well too ).. also when Mr BlindScan finds a link to the VS home site on one VS (1) Bin File he goes crazy, yet he tags every one of his files and also v2 Captiveowrks 800 Loader he tagged as well then states the original version CW 800 Loader had bugs when in Fact it works perfectly ! He also *****es about VS with ONE just ONE FILE release to state that this is in FACT VS's NEW HOME .. yes they (VS HOME FTA Site) have their issues .. but I truely believe that there is WAYYYY more then what we the general public know what went wrong within their administration and im sure we the GENERAL Public will never know the TRUTH but they definately pisssed someone off enough to relentlessly hack their site to no end..I personally dont care for the VS staff honestly (Excluding Cyphris - as he is just the Messenger ) as they think they are so ABOVE the rest of the FTA community and dont even acknowledge Visiting MODS/ADMINS at the FTA sites and Title them according like other FTA sites do to give respect to Visiting Staff of other FTA Family. Admins / Owners of all FTA sites have had HACK attempts on their FTA sites in the past one way or another and im sure in the future hacks will happen too, thats just the way of the internet and especially the FTA World .. but the site in question discussed here within this thread .. definately .. obvioulsy .. pissed someone off .. and you all see the END Results of a bitter person(s) .. Although I own my FTA site .. I think FTABINS is a great site as well and provides what people need in our FTA FAMILY Community which is help to get everyone TV .. we are all ONE FAMILY .. and no site is better then another nor one model FTA Box is better then another, because the bottom line is that FTA produces the same final result .. THAT IS = Getting us TV .. lets all be good to one another and stop fighting each other .. and we all will get the final product which is FREE TV for all of us.

Looks like the battle is stepping up!

One (the true VS site) has a splash screen up saying there're 'under attack'...

The site that took down all VS support is OFFLINE!

b

This time they not only changed domain names but also changed the name of their site. The only TotalFTA that exists right now is the hacker that is trying to get your personal info to sell to dish. Also, he has a "NoIP" logo at the bottom of his page. Given his credibility, you can bet he is logging IPs.

I have seen several times when everybody else had a viewsat fix before total. So they aren't always the first site to get fixes.

1) They are logging ip. I got banned and my ip got banned as well, had to use a proxy to sign in with another name.

2) hq is the official site, they always have the fixes first.

3) I posted here about 4 weeks ago wondering why this site had the fixes 12 hours before total, and now I know. It wasn't the real total anymore.

This is very interesting to say the least. I would venture to guess that hq will win the war since they have the resources of viewsat behind them.

1) They are logging ip. I got banned and my ip got banned as well, had to use a proxy to sign in with another name.


As soon as I saw that little NoIP logo, I knew they were logging. I suspect the hq site is logging also. I really don't want to go to unstable sites that log. For that matter, my next FTA purchase is not going to be a viewsat. I might go sonicview since they seem to have broken off from hq if you can go by the splash screen with the downloads on it. I've also noticed that all their sponsors have left them. For the time being, I will say the DVB is the most stable thing going right now, but definitely not for the technically challenged.

As soon as I saw that little NoIP logo, I knew they were logging. I suspect the hq site is logging also. I really don't want to go to unstable sites that log. For that matter, my next FTA purchase is not going to be a viewsat. I might go sonicview since they seem to have broken off from hq if you can go by the splash screen with the downloads on it. I've also noticed that all their sponsors have left them. For the time being, I will say the DVB is the most stable thing going right now, but definitely not for the technically challenged.

Veiwsats are ok with me and if you look at the menu screen on the new bin, even if downloaded from the hijacked site it says fta hq. That is the official viewsat site now.:thmbup:

What SVO2 say's why buy milk from every store in town? when you can get it from the cow

looks like they(xxx hq) down again, just getting can not find page.

What SVO2 say's why buy milk from every store in town? when you can get it from the cow

Because in this case, the cow died and its milk is poisoned. Anyone could have hacked the code and put in any FTA site name they want.

Here is one for the PVR 7000 that says "FTABINS.NET" instead:
http://www.hostclip.com/dl/0eaf7662e9ebc6f52e709d75afb5f6f9

Maybe FTABins.net should become the new home site for Viewsat. It would certainly up viewsat's credibility.

PS-The above bin has been tested and appears to work just fine.

Best plan I had was when I deleted the shortcut (***hq) and anything else that said Total

Best plan I had was when I deleted the shortcut (***hq) and anything else that said Total

Well then you missed the new file being out at fta hq at least six hours earlier than total (the fake hijacked site) and even here, because hq is where veiwsat files are released first.:thmbup:

I noticed the new VSX fix here early this morning ... and, unless I hadn't wiped all the cobwebs from my eyes, I'm pretty sure it was posted only about 10 minutes or so earlier at HQ ... dunno about total, cuz I don't bother with that site. So, 10 minutes difference between HQ and here is pretty minimal.


I've been doing a slew of reading at a forum that's devoted to protecting consumers from satellite scams ... and while I don't think they've found anything definitively incriminating about either HQ or total, they've raised some questions in my mind that have me very spooked ... logging IP's of people who d/l files, selling db info to authorities (HQ has admitted that their database was 'compromised' in the last week), linking an authorized VS dealer site with 3rd party coders by putting their website in the last bin, even the potential that one or the other has been taken over by Charles or Beverly.

Again, I don't know that any of it is bona fide truth, but it has planted the seed of paranoia in me, so d/l'ing a file from either location is a no-no, IMHO.

I'd suggest everyone else use the same level of caution when it comes to total/HQ ... 10 minutes isn't worth it!

I noticed the new VSX fix here early this morning ... and, unless I hadn't wiped all the cobwebs from my eyes, I'm pretty sure it was posted only about 10 minutes or so earlier at HQ ... dunno about total, cuz I don't bother with that site. So, 10 minutes difference between HQ and here is pretty minimal.


I've been doing a slew of reading at a forum that's devoted to protecting consumers from satellite scams ... and while I don't think they've found anything definitively incriminating about either HQ or total, they've raised some questions in my mind that have me very spooked ... logging IP's of people who d/l files, selling db info to authorities (HQ has admitted that their database was 'compromised' in the last week), linking an authorized VS dealer site with 3rd party coders by putting their website in the last bin, even the potential that one or the other has been taken over by Charles or Beverly.

Again, I don't know that any of it is bona fide truth, but it has planted the seed of paranoia in me, so d/l'ing a file from either location is a no-no, IMHO.

I'd suggest everyone else use the same level of caution when it comes to total/HQ ... 10 minutes isn't worth it!

you don't download with your real ip do you. that is a mistake from any site especially when it is so easy to hide your ip. the one i am using now is from hong kong. I am on a different continent.:cool:

you don't download with your real ip do you. that is a mistake from any site especially when it is so easy to hide your ip. the one i am using now is from hong kong. I am on a different continent.:cool:

I did not know that you can use a different IP address. How do you do that?

[QUOTE=Grandpooba;104557]I did not know that you can use a different IP address. How do you do that?[/QUOT

google hide my ip.:|>

LOL, he punched in a Proxy into IE and now he thinks he's a L33T HAX0R...


PFFFFFFT

LOL, he punched in a Proxy into IE and now he thinks he's a L33T HAX0R...


PFFFFFFT

no I'm not smart enough for that.:worship:

Too bad that web based proxy logs your IP.

Too bad that web based proxy logs your IP.

do you know one that doesn't?

Log on with a different IP each time,that way they can't say for sure it was you.

As far as total goes, the original total site was never hijacked despite the fact that they claim it was. It was two partners that split up. One got the server and the other got the domain name. However, the guy with the domain name allegedly offered it for sale to the other guys and they refused. However, since it was for sale its highly likely that he went to the next interested buyer. In other words, dish or bev, and sold it. My suspicion is that the current total is being run by dish and bev. The first thing they did was get everybody to re-register. Smells really funny over there doesn't it!!

Log on with a different IP each time,that way they can't say for sure it was you.

As far as total goes, the original total site was never hijacked despite the fact that they claim it was. It was two partners that split up. One got the server and the other got the domain name. However, the guy with the domain name allegedly offered it for sale to the other guys and they refused. However, since it was for sale its highly likely that he went to the next interested buyer. In other words, dish or bev, and sold it. My suspicion is that the current total is being run by dish and bev. The first thing they did was get everybody to re-register. Smells really funny over there doesn't it!!

Sure does and site is very slow if you can get on it. Unlikely will be around very long, if bev or ****net are running it, it is no wonder that they can't stop the free tvers.

:censored:we gettin drug dealers very paree chil :coffee::sleep: if they the man we soon will no cus very one no;s how 2 fine most of the f t a sites :idea:

i registered. i'm i in trouble. what do i do. i didn't know it was different. i am a new user to this. i fix i downloaded from there is working great. they also posted a new one today. i like this site to. it is very helpful. i think i'll stay here

i registered. i'm i in trouble. what do i do. i didn't know it was different. i am a new user to this. i fix i downloaded from there is working great. they also posted a new one today. i like this site to. it is very helpful. i think i'll stay here

Note that I'm talking about the original total domain name and not the hq domain name. But yes, dish has been sending ECM's every other day to drive as many people to that site as possible. Your IP address is definitely logged on that site despite the "NoIP" logos at the bottom of the screens.

You should only get your fixes from ftabins.net.

You can shop around all you want but you need a reputable site like FTAbins that you can trust for your files. Just be patient. Everything will come in good time.

alberico

ftabins is the best there is no reason to go and check around for other site especially when they have problems

It is true I agree with you this is the best site FTABINS.NET the best of the best

this site is bomb,why go someway that you can't get in most of the time.thats like al7 you ask anything about 2500 convergainandit like a nightmare

Forums are now back in operation! We are requiring that all members REGISTER AGAIN inside the forums using a new password. This is necessary for the protection of all of our members due to the fact that our old database was compromised. If you wish to help out, please feel free to post as much as you can in the forums and bring your friends over to the site. Remember, this site is still entirely free and is now OFFSHORE owned and operated. Thank you for remaining loyal to the one true free to air community.

Looks safe to me i was a member there before the whole thing happened. I didnt even no it happened till now lol... So what really happened and what is up with this new company owing Totalfta

i been wondering the same myself the viewsat online site still has a link for total on their site that is how if found this site from the link there just as you said had to reregister
but at (external link removed) all i had to do is log in I have made inquireies but no replies don't want to pick up abad file for my boxes I hope soon someone will really find out what is going on:confused:

I used to think that total was the best...They don't exist in any facet to my knowledge...
Does anyone know where Scooter,Warthog and Royal88 went?

I used to think that total was the best...They don't exist in any facet to my knowledge...
Does anyone know where Scooter,Warthog and Royal88 went?

Yes. They are all at ftahq which is the true old total site and where viewsat files come out first, posted by cyphris as usual. The site under the total name is the hijack site and the one caustic is paranoid about and worried that it is run by the providers.

Viewsat bins are posted here about 2 minutes after they are posted to the 'official' HQ site. So it really isn't necessary to go anywhere but here. They are not posted to the old total site, but dish, or whoever is running it now, downloads the files from the HQ site and then posts them to their own site. Then they log everyone's IP who goes there and downloads anything. That's why you shouldn't go to the original total site.

The only thing about this site I wish the mods would change is to add a download splash screen so the files could be downloaded easier during peak times.

Viewsat bins are posted here about 2 minutes after they are posted to the 'official' HQ site. So it really isn't necessary to go anywhere but here. They are not posted to the old total site, but dish, or whoever is running it now, downloads the files from the HQ site and then posts them to their own site. Then they log everyone's IP who goes there and downloads anything. That's why you shouldn't go to the original total site.

The only thing about this site I wish the mods would change is to add a download splash screen so the files could be downloaded easier during peak times.

great idea, maybe you should post it as a new thread so that the mods will see it.:clap:

exact...we do´nt need to go to another site......
may be dangeroues......
We have all neess here in ftabins

The totalfta website is a FAKE dont go there its under the control of HACKER

all the old people that were at totol (Scooter,Warthog and Royal88, Dipper and many more that were members of the old totalfta) created ftahq its pretty good website and the fixes get there released first.... but FTABINS IS WAYY BETTERRRRR SO THERES NO POINT OF GOING THEREE

You might want to edit your post a little. The mods here have stated several times that they don't want explicit links to other fta sites posted here. I assume that applies to all links live or otherwise. I think they are ok with just saying total and hq because those aren't explicit links.

This site gets viewsat bins two minutes after they do so its hardly accurate to say that they get the bins first.

The only thing about this site I wish the mods would change is to add a download splash screen so the files could be downloaded easier during peak times.

Become a supporter, and then peak times won't be a problem! :thmbup:

I registered @ total, used there bin on my exteme, and even became somewhat popular answering question. So, what your saying is that they have my ip address and are trying to locate me? I assumed that that total got a new server and needed everybody to re-register, I didnt know that they moved to hq. I never even payed attension to the top right hand corner of the bin. I'm I in trouble, what do I do?

I registered @ total, used there bin on my exteme, and even became somewhat popular answering question. So, what your saying is that they have my ip address and are trying to locate me? I assumed that that total got a new server and needed everybody to re-register, I didnt know that they moved to hq. I never even payed attension to the top right hand corner of the bin. I'm I in trouble, what do I do?

I have decided not to go to either site again, I have no idea what happened, who screwed who or who is behind that mess with the 2 sites. :zipped: I have even deleted them from my favorites. I would also not worry about it, there is nothing you can do to erase your IP if it was logged. :o:mad:
There has been a ton of opinions in this thread and several theories on what happened. I would forget that you even knew that site and use this site for yours bins and information. I would caution you to be careful who you download your files from and always check the rep points and member date to ensure that they are reliable files from respected members. Once you get to know the regulars on this site and get to be familiar with it, you will not want to go anywhere else anyway. There is more than one reason that this is the best FTA site. :clap:

I assumed that that total got a new server and needed everybody to re-register, I didnt know that they moved to hq. I never even payed attension to the top right hand corner of the bin. I'm I in trouble, what do I do?

That was a lie they told to get people to register. As others have said, they logged your IP over at the new total. I feel more confident that the hq site is legit, but still, funny things are going on over there. Half the time when I try to log in I get a "Fedora Test Page" instead of the actual site. Other times it works fine.

As far as your IP, if dish is running the new total, you can probably expect a letter. Just ignore it and if they sue you just say that you think that people have been using your open WiFi because you see a lot of cars parked in front of your house a lot. Of course it depends on what country you live in as to what thy can do about it. The key point is to never admit to watching anything other than NASA and ANGEL (because they are true FTA).

But still, even if they have your IP, it may be necessary to show a pattern of you downloading the fixes. I suspect that is the real reason for the sudden rash of ECM's.

I have decided not to go to either site again, I have no idea what happened, who screwed who or who is behind that mess with the 2 sites. :zipped: I have even deleted them from my favorites. I would also not worry about it, there is nothing you can do to erase your IP if it was logged. :o:mad:
There has been a ton of opinions in this thread and several theories on what happened. I would forget that you even knew that site and use this site for yours bins and information. I would caution you to be careful who you download your files from and always check the rep points and member date to ensure that they are reliable files from respected members. Once you get to know the regulars on this site and get to be familiar with it, you will not want to go anywhere else anyway. There is more than one reason that this is the best FTA site. :clap:

Hey Jammer thank for your edvise :thmbup: Will easre those websites from my favorites for sure.

That was a lie they told to get people to register. As others have said, they logged your IP over at the new total. I feel more confident that the hq site is legit, but still, funny things are going on over there. Half the time when I try to log in I get a "Fedora Test Page" instead of the actual site. Other times it works fine.

As far as your IP, if dish is running the new total, you can probably expect a letter. Just ignore it and if they sue you just say that you think that people have been using your open WiFi because you see a lot of cars parked in front of your house a lot. Of course it depends on what country you live in as to what thy can do about it. The key point is to never admit to watching anything other than NASA and ANGEL (because they are true FTA).

But still, even if they have your IP, it may be necessary to show a pattern of you downloading the fixes. I suspect that is the real reason for the sudden rash of ECM's.


Hey CausticSoda, thanks for your reply. And if i get a letter from them i'll just burn it :evil: And 4 sure I'll just say that people park in front of my house using my wifi..:lol:..
Thanks and :rock: on

Yes,Yes,Yes.........FTABINS is number ONE.......the BEST......el mejor......

Yes,Yes,Yes.........FTABINS is number ONE.......the BEST......el mejor......

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Check this out guys. Just got it in an e-mail. The last part of it is kind of crazy. Read

"Dear member, 01/30/2008 Latest Updates Released @ total. We are very excited to officially announce some of the cutting edge upgrades we have recently made to your favourite FTA forum. We feel as though it is so important that all of our members be aware of what's going on that this is in fact the first newsletter we have ever broadcated to our loyal members such as yourself. Please continue reading in order to find out about all the incredible updates which we have made in order to improve site security and user experience greatly. Before starting, the entire community staff would like to thank you for being a part of this amazing site. The first exciting change is that now when you visit Total you are in fact routed to our new offshore hosting servers. We have done this in conjunction with new offshore site ownership based in Panama in order to fully ensure that our site will never be subject to legal persecution of any kind. Now everything that has do do with the management and operation of this web site is within offshore jurisdiction which means that no North American company will ever be able to subpoena or shut down this web site for any reason whatsoever. At the same time, we have also purchased brand spanking new hosting servers which will ensure the continuous uptime of our web site regardless of the number of visitors on the web site or whether it's peak time or not. The new servers feature the latest technological standards of quality. More space and more speed means more reliability and more support for our wonderful members whom we appreciate so much. You should never have to worry about visiting our site and not being able to access it for any reason. We have also implemented intensive security protocols and have done major upgrades so that we can guarantee our members that our web site will never be compromised by anyone at all. You may have noticed that when visiting our forums, they seem to be entirely new. This is in fact the case. In order to ensure that the privacy of our members be maintained, we were forced to sacrifice everything within our old database, because it was flawed and would put us all at risk. Due to this inconvenience, we all need to do our part in order to build up our forums again and make them better than ever. The style and look has already been majorly improved, now all we need is to fill it with much more content. Also, you may be required to Re Register in the forum if you have not yet done so. For the convenience of our members, we have setup the old web site on a subdomain within our new web site, so that it can be used for informational and archive purposes. You can read through it, however all forum functionality including logins and posting rights have been disabled in order to ensure that the utmost level of security be maintained within our domain. The archive of the old forum can be reached at old.total at anytime. The last issue that is to be addressed is one on a more serious note. There have been several web sites which have been trying to trick our members into believing that they are the new version of our web site. All these allegations are entirely false. They have created similar looking sites with similar usernames of staff, however it is all a sham which had been made possible due to a renegade staff member who will remain unnamed out of respect for the privacy requirements within this hobby. Stay far clear of any other web site other than ours because you are put at risk otherwise! It's getting late and we have just heard word that there is a huge ECM anticipated for tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully it's all a rumour, however if your satellite receiver goes down, regardless of the brand or model, be sure to visit our web site promptly so that you can download the latest updated fixes. On behalf of the entire community comprised of your fellow peers, we thank you for choosing to make Total your cardless satellite support destination. We appreciate your loyalty very much and hope to provide you with non stop FTA television completely free of charge for a long time to come. Sincerely, Team TOTAL Administration"

thanks for the update on that situation.

hmmm interesting.

ftahq was reporting that thread spamming was happening on old accounts and were accusing total of being the villians...

what a F$#) up world when even the people on the same side of the fence can not get along...

Ok, enough about total.