Hello all,

Did everybody get their money's worth yet? If you
have, then you are very lucky. If you haven't, then I
am sorry... There are rumors that AT&T is buying
D!shNetwork. This may mean that they will update the
satellite system with new technology. From now to the
end of this month, if FTA receivers are not released
with new files, then it is likely that they cannot fix
the system because the system will have been updated.
However, if they do release new files, then that means
the system was able to be fixed, but we do not know
how long this can go on for. There is also a
possibility that files may have to be updated daily.
If FTA receivers are not released with updates from
now until the end of the month, then that would mean
that D!shNetwork does not work anymore. Regarding all
types of FTA receivers (CoolSat, ViewSat, PanSat,
Sonic Fortec, etc...), buyers who wish to buy these
receivers should stop at this time and wait until this
summer when FTA will come out with a new receiver with
new technology to get into the AT&T system. However,
it is not certain that this new receiver will last as
long as past receivers. I must stress once again that
because of this uncertainty, there is NO WARRANTY AT
ALL for any receivers you plan to purchase in the
future. If you are interested in continuing to watch
free television, then please think in terms of
business. It is like gambling as sometimes you will be
lucky to watch television, but you know you will not
always have such luck. Do not have the false
perception that you will always be able to watch TV
this way. However, if channels continue to remain
scrambled from now until the end of this month, you
might be interested in the option of backing up your
receivers. If you wish to backup your receivers,
Canada B3V (91 West Satellite - 320
Channels with PPV, Sports, HBO, Children Channels,
etc) and International Channels (97 West Satellite -
200 Channels) are available for installation.
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AT&T to buy d!shnetwork????????

Sounds From the Rumor Mill: AT&T Moving on D!SH
Once Thomas Eagan's upgrade on EchoStar hit the
streets, it didn't take long for the "AT&T's gonna
make its move on EchoStar" talk to follow. In fact,
hours after the Oppenheimer analyst upgraded the
satcaster's stock from "neutral" to "buy," and with it
a $4 to $6 share valuation, stories starting hitting
the 'net with more rumors and speculation.

According to investment site TheStreet.com, the topic
of AT&T buying D!SH is starting to get interesting,
with sources close to the companies saying AT&T is
offering to buy the satellite company for $55 per
share. But, the site says, EchoStar is holding out for
more dough, somewhere closer to $65 per share.

EchoStar data says outstanding shares of the company
total 447.48 million. At $55 per share, AT&T appears
to be prepared to offer roughly $22.62 billion to gain
control of the D!SH Network operator. A $65 per share
estimate puts EchoStar's price tag at $29 billion.

In response to EchoStar's plans on spinning-off into
two separate companies, Eagan said, "We see the
uncoupling of the D!SH divisions into two stocks as a
step towards a sale of the D!SH Network. Given the
success of the cable triple play and the lack of
success of AT&T's U-verse rollout, it seems to us a
matter of when, NOT if, AT&T acquires EchoStar."

Where is gigster????

the latest read suggests that CRC rotines in the rom must be emulated and at the right time - could be a bit of work to figure out - but possible for sure - another one to add into the full emu list !

the answer is known - the question need not be asked !

Where is Gigster

Sounds like Emunation has a fix. FTA box fixes can't be far off.

Here I am all the info I post here are from big players in the game saying there is nothing to worry about at this time anything is possible but right now just relax enjoy what we have VS files will be posted here soon and other major brands will follow the end is not near

There are always nay-sayers coming out when bins are a commodity. and boom a bin comes out and we dpon't here a ,thing for days and weeks and then a dry spell and here we go again,

I dot sweat the issues I can not control. Torrow the sun comes up and a different set of people wake up with their own agenda. And it starts all over again.

Easy fellow. easy....................

You know if they do than fine we had a hell of a run. Right boys!

Read this



They've thrown everything at us, including timer specific, clock specific, map calls & combinations there of. Each time coders from the various Teams have beaten the providers nastiest ECM's, and shown some true ingenuity in finding solutions. Competition has been excellent and down time has been minimal. We've seen who is on top of the game We've seen many different manufacturers and coding Teams respond very quickly to the hurdles presented by providers, and this is good. Competition is always healthy for every market. A few very smart & talented people pooled their info & knowlege and have come out with an actual emulator that works with out a card. The new emulator is actually able to duplicate and emulate all map functions, as well as timers & timer functions, and is clock cycle specific & accurate down to 1 clock cycle. While a complete emulation of the Rom is currently too large to fit in the individual bins, they can now get very specific information that before was hidden. Timer responce times can now be logged, as well as map calls and clock jitter. VERY accurate files can now be written and much quicker than ever before. Barriers between coder groups have been breached. Knowlege is being shared now better than ever before, and much has been learned about providers ecm's and their own limitations. As I stated earlier, I'm not here to push any one brand over the other, I am here to ask you all to take a minute and reflect at how far this entire industry has come. We have benefits and features that were thought impossible at one time, and FTA has evolved into a multi-billion dollar industry! Don't let providers win! Don't give into their scare tactics & don't believe that its anywhere near the end. The way I see it, they've already hit us with their best shot, each time we rallied and came back. This will not end tomorrow

For every measure there is a counter

Well boss, any dramatic opening statements regarding the freedom to access what is in my back yrad??

Surely we are not all asleep here?

I read this and I feel the same thing I felt when DTV was finally over, but I am not crying.
I choose to seek out another soon to become popular way of obtaining my needs.

May FTA keep kicking it's way to the FULL EMULATION!

More power to the coders!

Months ago when all these ECM's started it was the end people just panic but right now there is nothing to panic over

i been around satellite for 30 years now and for some reason there is always someone smarter than all of us and once a month this person or persons have a big news about losing dn guy i believe that WHAT A MAN CAN BUILD ANOTHER ONE CAN TAKE A PART so please unless you are a president of dn don't say stupidity

Nicely said Maffia7

Same as 1 week ago. Be prepared to upgrade to faster processor for the clocking issues and need larger memopry for flashes.

If you are knee deep in the marsh, do not give in and sink of stop from crossimg , you improvise and try harder to get across there should be not doudt that you will succeed.

Again with the "END"

No different here

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I read a question in a receiver discussion section asking "Where the permanent fix was or when it would be out?"

Veteran testers know well that we are all on borrowed time with fixes. We should all be happy we have temp fixes will teams continue their hard work on the EMU fix.

A permanent fix? I think noooottt. What he was seeking is impossible. Everyone that is waiting on fixes is really awaiting the new EMU fix.
My question would have been, which boxes will have stability with this anticipated newer emulation fix.
One thing is for sure the coders and their teams have been working it twice as hard, putting out temp fixes, all the while working the emu.

We should all be greatful, for this is an unpresidented undertaking.

Receivers are going from $120 to several hundred for each one and for those of us that have had them for even a small length of time, if we compare the monies it would have cost to subscribe and pay for events, movies, porn and different packages, and know well that these receivers have been a good investment at the very least and an awesome investment for those of us whom have been at this for years.

This same subject has come up over and over, even while wait for a regular fix, like all coders do is wave a magic wand. After 2-3 months the same question again.

Let us be content with what we are getting and stop demanding for that that we can not do for ourselves.

Enough for me.

Long live FTA!

By Paul R. La Monica, CNNMoney.com senior writer
December 29, 2005: 12:36 PM EST


Rumors have made the rounds lately that AT&T (Research) (formerly known as SBC) may be interested in acquiring EchoStar (Research), the nation's second largest satellite TV firm. Shares of EchoStar have gained more than 11 percent since mid-November.

Spokespeople for the two companies would not comment on the speculation. But some analysts say a deal makes sense.

A run for DirecTV (Research), the number one satellite company, is not seen as likely since it is controlled by media conglomerate News Corp (Research).

In addition, AT&T and EchoStar are already partners. In 2004, SBC and EchoStar launched a co-branded satellite TV service for SBC customers called the SBC/DISH Network.

But this joint venture might not be enough to make AT&T a serious player in video.

Why a deal makes sense
Rob Sanderson, an analyst with American Technology Research, said an AT&T/EchoStar combination has been a subject of rumors for some time because it could be easier (and cheaper) for AT&T to buy its way into the video market rather than building a costly fiber-optic network.

AT&T and Verizon are spending heavily on fiber-optic networks. But building a network is a big risk that doesn't guarantee customers. EchoStar, on the other hand, already has infrastructure in place to offer video nationwide and has nearly 12 million customers to boot.

"Verizon's strategy is ridiculously capital intensive," Sanderson said. "And it's not just the cost. It's the return on the investment. Right now, EchoStar has a strong business that provides a lot of cash flow and it is putting that cash back into growth."

Also pointing to deals to come is that cable companies have a big head start in the rush to offer new services. They are already heavily promoting phone services to customers through a technology known as voice over Internet protocol (VoIP). And many are partnering with Sprint Nextel to offer wireless services.

That puts cablers in the lead to offer the so-called "quadruple play" of phone, video, data and wireless services. "When you have four products in the house it's going to be tough to get consumers to switch. If AT&T bought EchoStar, it's a good way to get customers that are not already signed up with cable," said Greg Gorbatenko, an analyst with Jackson Securities.

Finally, time is short. It will take a while for phone companies to complete the rollout of their fiber-to-the-home networks and some think AT&T can ill afford to sit back and watch cable companies take away customers without having a viable option of its own to offer.

"A move towards EchoStar would give AT&T a stronger presence in the video market and if the goal is to hurt cable, the fastest way to do that is through satellite," said Allan Tumolillo, principal of Transformation Research and Consulting, an independent research firm.

But can AT&T afford another big purchase?
Still, some think talk of a merger is a bit premature. Thomas Eagan, an analyst with Oppenheimer & Co., said he doesn't think a deal is likely anytime soon.

Instead, he thinks AT&T may take a wait-and-see approach.

"It's a little early," said Eagan. "EchoStar becomes a candidate for a buyout should cable VoIP efforts succeed and if the phone companies' IP video services do not work."

Joseph Bonner, an analyst with Argus Research, adds that AT&T has already committed a lot of money to its fiber-to-the-home initiative. With that in mind, he thinks AT&T would be better off just continuing its partnership with EchoStar instead of purchasing it outright.

"Why would AT&T want to buy EchoStar when they already have the alliance now?" he said. "Strategically, I don't see motivation for doing it. The company is too far along on its own rollout."

There's also the issue of whether or not AT&T should be taking on another deal so soon. The SBC/AT&T merger just closed in December.

Plus, SBC's Cingular Wireless unit is still in the process of integrating AT&T Wireless, which Cingular bought in 2004 for $41 billion.

EchoStar wouldn't come cheaply either. The company currently has a market value of about $12.1 billion. So it would seem likely that in a takeover, AT&T would probably have to pony up at least $15 billion to get a deal done.

There's also nearly $6 billion in EchoStar debt that AT&T would have to assume, a considerable amount to add to Ma Bell's current debt burden of about $23.2 billion.

That would be a lot for AT&T to handle at one time, Gorbatenko said. He added that even though cable is a significant threat, the company's priority should be on finding ways to better compete against its biggest telecom rival, Verizon.

Verizon is set to complete its merger with long-distance firm MCI (Research) sometime next month. And Verizon's wireless unit is seen by many telecom analysts as a better-run company than Cingular.

"The main criticism of AT&T/SBC has been that they bite off more than they can chew. The company needs to fix up Cingular so it can go more toe to toe with Verizon," Gorbatenko said.

That said, Bonner thinks you can never rule out a deal as long as AT&T chairman and chief executive officer Edward Whitacre, who was the CEO of SBC, is at the helm.

"The old SBC never met an acquisition target that it didn't like," he said.

Having the soultion run on an emu and having fixes for all effected models, is 2 different things. Yes, I watched a PPV yesterday (Halloween) without a hiccup, BUT implementing it into an FTA receiver bin does take time, especially for receivers dealing with clone issue. Rest assured nobody is goofing off, just seems people are getting more impatient each time we have a NEW ecm.
This CRC check was quite ingenious, & I still say Nagra has some new talent on board to come up with some of this stuff.. This is NOT a re-hash of an old ECM.. Releases are coming, and the little waiting game is FAR better than IKS soultions. That is THEE most dangerous solution out there.. PERIOD! One day you will see & hear about someone you know gettting nabbed if they continue to use IKS. Its NOT SAFE, NO WAY, NO HOW! Just be patient & let them work. Stay tuned right here for updates.

Posted by The_DSS_Guy

just seems people are getting more impatient each time we have a NEW ecm

Just be patient & let them work


I agree fellows. Same old $@%$^. Lets all calm down. It will be alright.


This aggitaes the members and is a slap on the face of the coders.

This certainly doesn't pep them up or make them want to work faster or hasrder.

Time is a good thing.

agreed - its always a matter of when andnot if - the crc adds challenge - buts its not the end - by no means !! just another bumb in the road - eh !

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo you Want Free TV !

For starters lets show some loyalty, patience and respect.

To bad everyone didn't think like you
you are 100% right

You know there are not many places left where you can get something for nothing.

Thank you gigster i love this place you have never let me down. This site is the best //////and i thank all the coders //even if it was the end to d;sh i have made my money.s worth and more I have a viewsat the best

If you have been attending as many shutdowns as I have you get an attitude that just be patient and the good times will return....aid :D

Only been in the game for a year and a half (roughly) , shelled money out on 3 receivers ,couple of dishes.Considering the cost a sub (depending on the package) ppv movies around $3.99 each, porn $9.99 (even though i catch hell from the wife, when i flip on it ) and the ppv sporting events, $39.99 each or more, this is not a drop in the hat for what i would have had to pay subscribers for all the stuff we've watched.So even if all petered out today i would have to thank this site and the coders for all i received, and consider myself ahead. THANX, yea thats wifies avatar, quit drooling, thats my job : ) .

switch to lynux box and you wont have to waste your time on useless atandt or similar corps.stats.all up and working here.

hey gigster you're gonna have to start paying more attention to the site so u can beat back these prophets of doom before they even get started.lol

Yeah I know all this doom and I almost have all files posted for VS

You guys were way ahead of one of the prominent pay sites. Good job.
just waiting patiently for VS pvr7000 fix. Arsenal v Newcastle kicks off at 10am est ...

PVR is about to be posted

what about Pansat 2500 converted to 2700's file?

You guys sound a little like the oil industry: "There's enough oil to last forever. Its just getting harder to find."

Anyhow, dish may or may not get bought out, but its unlikely that whoever runs it will be willing to spend millions on new equipment when they know it will only shut down FTA for a few days. For example, it only takes the right bin and we'd all be receiving DTV instead. DTV isn't unhacked, its just non-published.

But Dish's greed is what is driving the FTA industry - not people looking for free TV. If you want to get BBC, SCIFI, DISC and SCI CHAN, you have to get their DISH 250 plan for $53/month. Included in those 250 channels is 109 radio only channels, 18 are shopping channels and 24 are public interest channels. That leaves 99 actual channels worth watching - and most of those aren't worth watching either. So basically you are paying $53/month to watch 4 channels. I can get about local 10 channels with my rabbit ears. And they still charge EXTRA for the FTA and local channels. If dish had any sense, they would let people just add the channels they want (for say $1/month each) with no obligation to pay for the ones they don't want or having to get a special package. AND let them have the FTA channels for free. The people could bring their own box for additional savings.

So it never ceases to amaze me how corporate managers are so out of touch with reality. Instead of admitting that THEY caused the FTA industry to grow, they try to stomp it out with expensive and only temporary ECM's. So now, instead of getting $5-$10 from me a month, they are getting $0/month.

Read this



They've thrown everything at us, including timer specific, clock specific, map calls & combinations there of. Each time coders from the various Teams have beaten the providers nastiest ECM's, and shown some true ingenuity in finding solutions. Competition has been excellent and down time has been minimal. We've seen who is on top of the game We've seen many different manufacturers and coding Teams respond very quickly to the hurdles presented by providers, and this is good. Competition is always healthy for every market. A few very smart & talented people pooled their info & knowlege and have come out with an actual emulator that works with out a card. The new emulator is actually able to duplicate and emulate all map functions, as well as timers & timer functions, and is clock cycle specific & accurate down to 1 clock cycle. While a complete emulation of the Rom is currently too large to fit in the individual bins, they can now get very specific information that before was hidden. Timer responce times can now be logged, as well as map calls and clock jitter. VERY accurate files can now be written and much quicker than ever before. Barriers between coder groups have been breached. Knowlege is being shared now better than ever before, and much has been learned about providers ecm's and their own limitations. As I stated earlier, I'm not here to push any one brand over the other, I am here to ask you all to take a minute and reflect at how far this entire industry has come. We have benefits and features that were thought impossible at one time, and FTA has evolved into a multi-billion dollar industry! Don't let providers win! Don't give into their scare tactics & don't believe that its anywhere near the end. The way I see it, they've already hit us with their best shot, each time we rallied and came back. This will not end tomorrow

Once Again, GREAT POST GIGSTER!:thmbup:

I agree with you 100%, It would take months, if not years to do all that crap that first post says, and LOTS of money, MILLIONS actually, Money that neither D!SH nor AT&T have to waste. The end is nowhere near Folks, come down:!:

Yeah I know all this doom and I almost have all files posted for VS

Keep up the great work gigster. And if I may, I'm gonna add my 2 cents about doom, gloom, naysayers and malcontents.

Just My Two Cents About Flaming And Bashing Anything

Humans like to complain about everything, including not getting a fix. I can not recall that there was a god given right or expectation to get anything more than what you paid for in the beginning. You purchase a receiver commonly referred to as a STB which has a specific function similar to a tv antenna. The antenna is replaced basically be a dish mounted on your roof. The seller of the STB instructs you to point the dish at a particular satellite and scan for Free To Air tv signals. You are obviously going to receive more channels than your roof antenna.

Along come the groaners, moaners, whiners and complainers and we have seen every conceivable complaint on the face of the planet from “This brand of receiver sucks” to “where is my fix” to “I paid to belong to this site and I demand service” to “The end is near for fta” etc. This doesn’t even begin to touch the surface. Generally speaking, people start flaming or bashing a STB unit and in turn start getting bashed. Admin and mods then have to act as referees. Negative rep points are dolled out, Readers Club assignments are allocated and members are banned.

Ok, Let us put things in their proper perspective. You buy a STB and you set it up and scan for channels. Then you learn you can receive more channels by downloading a particular file for your receiver and loading it. So you learn some basics and away you go. Wait! You have already made a mistake. To make a long story short, you have already started off on the wrong foot. How much do you know about this STB? Do you know what makes it tick? Did you read the manual? Do you know what file to put on it? Do you know how to put the right file on it? The list goes on to infinity. The bottom line is, you don’t know what you are doing and you need to learn about your equipment.

Ninety-nine percent of all problems with a receiver are caused by human error. So the real problem is yourself. Follow this and you will diminish your problems considerably:

1. Learn about your receiver.
2. Learn How to set it up
3. Learn which file it uses it.
4. learn that you have no god given right to expect more from it than its original intended purpose.
5. Learn to put your brain in gear before operating your keyboard.
6. Learn that if you don’t like the receiver that there are others out there that will give you the same volume of frustration.
7. Learn that you would like to treat others in the same manner that you would like to be treated.
8. Learn that you make mistakes.
9. Learn about the site rules. And
10. Learn that if you continue on a certain path, you will end up with negative rep points, you sill end up in the readers club and you will end up not being on this site.

great posts dmantom and gigster points to u both keep up the good, no great work

DMantom & Gigster ,you are so right. Let us all settle down and take what comes ,if it comes and then we will deal with iot in the same way we always have, and let's quit *****ing!! Great comunity, the GREATEST!!!

hello

this is by far one of the best discussion threads we haved on the site.

there is alway a $$$ issue to be considered. if and when AT&T should buy, i
don't think that any major chages would occur because thay would need some time to
learn and recover some of the $$$ invested in the transaction. even though these type of heavy $$$ exchanges don't occur overnight, a large % of $$$ resources would be committed to fulfilling the $$ obligation.

the most practical move would be to continue with current strategy until such time that
profits become significant enough to invest in newer technologies.

just my point of view, i may be wrong. but, i don't think that after a $22 billion or so transaction, any corporation will invest in new equipment or technologies. just upgrade their principal thing.

good luck to all and take care

oh no.. the end of fta.. If I had a nickel for every time I heard that.....

the original question is not the end of fta
it is the end of DN

so subscribers is this the end of DN

I don’t think David Letterman’ F.B.M.I (Federal Bureau of Miscellaneous Information) has the right information, providers deal with software so it can always be defeated, the only thing they can do is increase the size, here size matters as it will take some time for manufacturers to respond .
DN should thank the gods for testers who make the system known to a lot of people who thought Dish Network is an Italian restaurant chain.
DTV allowed some testing knowing that these testers are not potential costumer but they are advertisers to potential costumers.

ALL HAIL gigster! thanks for the reassurance never seace to amaze thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

dmantom perfect name cause u the man i love this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

dmantom perfect name cause u the man i love this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Call it like you see it.. if the truth hurts... well.. you know what to do:)

I suggest we bouycot all free TV!!! Tell them to stick it!! Tell them we've had enough!!
Get out the plaqards!!! Down with the providers!!!
Wait a minute on second thought....

"Is this the end" If I had a quarter already for the times I have seen it in hear in my short timing with this site already where did peoples patiences go? We would all like a instant fix but you would think by know we would have grown up enough to know you don't always get what you want when you want it and it may be best to wait just a little longer for it for what ever reason.Spreading and starting rumors is childish and I thought this was an adult site if your that frustrated with your receiver and the whole thing get out of the game is my suggestion to you don't make everyone else miserable.I am sorry if this offends anyone but I find the whining rumors and and all other bullpucky to be old and tiresome . I came here to learn and share and make friends as I am sure did others.:idea:

it ant over till pigs fly. i have been in this about 5 years and you still have people that all they think is glom and dome. thank you coders.

Just in from History Channel
the end is on Dec 21st ,2012

The Mayans + Merlin have predicted it
this is true for all FTA boxes..

be warned. be prepared.

repent while you can
the end is near

We shall overcome these problems because we have the MATH skills just like they do. It is a very challenging and satisfying game. What else would we do if verything was open all the time!!!!!! We will win in due course.

alberico

:clap::clap::clap::clap:hail to the higher powers

I think the reason people seem to be more impatient is for the longest time we would only go down every 2 to 3 weeks and then you could just enter new keys and watch till the auto roll was fixed everybody got spoiled including me and now we just have to walt. BUT THATS HOW THIS GAME WORKS. If it was always up no one would sub to dn and or bev and they would go out of business and where would we be then watching locals on rabbit ears. That would be depressing

I guess the coolsat 4000.5000,6000 was waste of money, guess they can't fix DN and Bev files for these until..There going to be a lot of pissed off people out there! That sucks!

BEV - Up on new files, older files working for some. Check the FTA Files page.

ECM IN PROGESS Expect down time...:yawn::yawn:

Thanks gigster, I feel a sense of releif:v:. I know all good things will come to an end, I also beleive the phoenix will rise again:yes::thmbup:.

we have the greatest coders out there if there is a change they will make a change

The only certainty is CHANGE...............Bring it ON!

oh no.. the end of fta.. If I had a nickel for every time I heard that.....

I might actually pay Charlie. hahahahaha! NOT!

I dont know if this has been pointed out or not, because I didnt want to go through 6 pages of replies; but that rumor mill article was posted in September 07. That is from what i found while researching the internet. Not just that but it seems like AT&T's buyout of echostar has been brought up in news articles for the past 2 to 3 years now. I was able to find many articles about this situation dating back to 2005. In the end rumors are still rumors. We just have to wait and see what will happen next, while anticipating the new updates.

AT&T May be Negotiating EchoStar Communications Buyout
by () on September 29, 2007 at 12:49 pm · Comments
Categorized by Business, Corporate, Telecom Services / Related Information

Telecom giant, AT&T Inc., has reportedly offered to buy Colorado-based satellite television provider, EchoStar Communications, for roughly $25 billion, in hopes of adding a nationwide pay-TV component to its current range of telecommunications services.

TheStreet.com reported on Thursday that AT&T had made an offer of $55 per share, citing “people familiar with the companies,” but said that EchoStar was still holding out for $65 per share, or a 41% premium on its share price at the time.

Oppenheimer analyst, Thomas Eagan, meanwhile, upgraded EchoStar from “neutral” to “buy,” and the company’s stock has surged almost 8% in the last two days.

“Given the success of the cable triple play and the lack of success of AT&T’s U-Verse roll out, it seems to us a matter of when, not if, AT&T acquires EchoStar,” Eagan wrote in a note to investors.

AT&T already resells EchoStar’s Dish Network service throughout its U.S. service footprint, but would achieve a significantly higher profit margin, not to mention better brand unity, by simply acquiring the company. It would also be able to avoid the expense of further expanding its U-verse fiber-optic television network, a risky venture which might not pay for itself for many years to come.

Just because a company is be acquired does not make fta's obsolete.
Keep in mind that some of the manufactures of these boxes actually build boxes for providers. If the providers had a permanent fix don't you think they would have used it by now. The last fix cost them millions and fta's are still up and running..

Yeah,

It would cost billions to make FTA obsolete.

DN is not going anywhere.

Yea my Coolsat live forever! Eat this Providers!

I would just like to say thanks to gigster for your dedication..

S%$T! I hope it's longer than a month from now. I guess I should have been watching these posts a little closer. I JUST picked up a VS Pro. By the way, any body out there have 1 of these machines? I need some help on the setup and by the looks of things soon, very soon.

wfc

Got a Pro bro. Im with any questions or post them in the right place in discussions. good luck enjoy. Great machine