View Full Version : Black Sunday Revisited


spydeeman
02-02-2008, 01:32 PM
:oWell grab yer crying towels folks looks like we're headed for Black Sunday the sequel.
Acoording to my sources (from both sides of the camp) We are headed for some real turbulent times in the fta ship. d/n has already employed partial ecm's (as of last week) and shall be following up on implementing the second 1/2 of "their" patch. Times have been bandied about for sometime Sunday morning. (At least that will give the majority of us time to put plan "B" into action. Head for a friend that has a subscriptiion to cable/satellite/whatever.) More info on this as i recieve it.

dish_man_ca
02-02-2008, 01:36 PM
That's why you don't get into this game without having a solid plan B, anyone who relies on FTA "testing" for tv is simply asking for periods of no tv!

tvrepairs
02-02-2008, 01:55 PM
:oWell grab yer crying towels folks looks like we're headed for Black Sunday the sequel.
Acoording to my sources (from both sides of the camp) We are headed for some real turbulent times in the fta ship. d/n has already employed partial ecm's (as of last week) and shall be following up on implementing the second 1/2 of "their" patch. Times have been bandied about for sometime Sunday morning. (At least that will give the majority of us time to put plan "B" into action. Head for a friend that has a subscriptiion to cable/satellite/whatever.) More info on this as i recieve it.


You seem to know alot for just joining this site this month and making this your first post. What do you do go around and join each site and make this your first post ? We will see what happens. If something does happen I really don`t think we will down for that long.

Miss Candy
02-02-2008, 02:03 PM
I couldn't of said that better myself tvrepairs

D95SI420
02-02-2008, 02:11 PM
i will bet heavily that we wont be watching the SB on DN or BEV. Its been quiet the past week for a good reason. If i was them i would launch a ecm 5 min before kickoff to hurt the most people, But this could also hurt subscibers and they have to pull the ECM. Lets hope for the best, and not get mad about something we know is probly coming. I have a free basic cable backup and would not give it up even if DAVE was hacked today. I doubt this guy is solid for info being his first post and newb but think about it, we know its coming. Happy testing

gpspat
02-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Not sure how number of posts equates to number of years experience in testing or the validity of the message. I've been testing since the VC days of the early 90s. He obviously has been in the game awhile to know what Black Sunday was, right?

nastydawg
02-02-2008, 02:35 PM
you guys worry to much you still get football on locals wether dn is up or down.tvrepairs good answer.

locnguyen1
02-02-2008, 02:51 PM
you guys just seat ..and enjoy what you have right now..worry free.......as long as you buy more STB..and you got TV 4 free ...FTA 4 ever...thanks:thmbup::thmbup::thmbup: FTA 4 the past years

kahne9
02-02-2008, 03:39 PM
for those who don't have a plan B for SB Sunday....i would be a little worried

dish_man_ca
02-02-2008, 03:43 PM
hey its not feb 09, all major local off air channels will be broadcasting SB, its ufc that's causing the hubbub

Miss Candy
02-02-2008, 03:56 PM
hey its not feb 09, all major local off air channels will be broadcasting SB, its ufc that's causing the hubbub???????????????????????????????????????????? ???
Where is it Feb 09?????? Its only Feb 2 here......lol

tvrepairs
02-02-2008, 03:59 PM
hey its not feb 09, all major local off air channels will be broadcasting SB, its ufc that's causing the hubbub???????????????????????????????????????????? ???
Where is it Feb 09?????? Its only Feb 2 here......lol

There is one today. There is another one on the 9th also.

riko2
02-02-2008, 04:04 PM
hey guys i said it before i'll say it again from now on the files coming out will be
emu 75% for thoes not familiar with the term ( emu ) means emulation very close
to the full emu so don't worry the full emu is coming very soon so hold on to you
chairs is coming in next month or so make sure you got enough memory in stb
you are going to need it here we go another era of fta coming ..........happy testing :)

fielder
02-02-2008, 05:05 PM
BLAH...BLAH...BLAH......Heard it all before with DAVE...

World is coming to an end....get out the KOOLAID...Throw more Virgins into the Volcano...etc...etc...etc...

Remember Black Sunday? January 21, 2001? I do. Dave screwed tons of his own legit subs as well as a bunch of others....so what was the point?

Way more hacking of Dave went on after Black Sunday than ever did before....remember the HU Card (P3), follow-up to the H Card that got whacked on Black Sunday. Why do you think it had a Football Player on the front (everyone nicknamed it the Football Card).

Dave knew what he was doing ahead of time and still couldn't stop it for a long time after until Murdock bought the company.

As far as SB, hell, I can watch it on my Blackberry...why would they waste their time on one event that's broadcast everywhere anyway.

I would be a lot more worried hearing about a rumor of Newscorp buying them......

groove
02-02-2008, 05:27 PM
a set of hd ready rabbit ears, hd tuner ready tv, beer, appetizers of your choice. let's party

shehbazt
02-02-2008, 05:47 PM
PLAN "A" - Coolsat 7000
PLAN "B" - nFusion Nova

D95SI420
02-02-2008, 06:34 PM
yes the nfusion will be up and of course they will have it on all kinds of locals. Just have to wait and see.

matt0783
02-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I Have no fear my Nfusion is here

olderbutt
02-02-2008, 07:08 PM
I too have been around since the VC day and Hope everthing will be fine. After all testing is what its all about...

bigmik
02-02-2008, 08:51 PM
By now we know the game. Whatever is gonna be, let it be. Lets wait & see. No reason for panic.

jeison
02-02-2008, 09:00 PM
Are There Boot Loaders For Fta`s.........lol

lisanmike
02-02-2008, 09:17 PM
hey its not feb 09, all major local off air channels will be broadcasting SB, its ufc that's causing the hubbub???????????????????????????????????????????? ???
Where is it Feb 09?????? Its only Feb 2 here......lol

I think he was referring to '2009', when by law all broadcasts will have to be digital ... so, plain ol' rabbit ears wouldn't pick up a local broadcast.

kasmit5821
02-02-2008, 10:24 PM
cut the bull,, black sunday...it's just another day if things go down...but if you have a sub who cares...let me guess the super bowl...it's on regular HD rabbit ears...so a ecm cant be about that....not to mention...the customer service fiasco.... they may roll keys..

but if they didn't activate ECM yet ...don't think they will risk..it..cause every time they do stuff..their irds..blanc out for a minute or too...and a call to wait 1 hour on hold on sunday... then their ecm had better be real specific for fta..or cards...cause if they blank out ..subs...NFL fans are going to be real pissed...and most nfl fans will spend money...on the competition...if sh*t happens...so i don't think anything will happen sunday...But Monday ...that is another story...

now lets see how this plays out....because the only ones who really know are the IT dept that runs the program..and CS that staffs for volume of problems..


"the above statement is not based on any facts, just my guess"


:)

but at least monday ..i will know if my guess is correct..






:oWell grab yer crying towels folks looks like we're headed for Black Sunday the sequel.
Acoording to my sources (from both sides of the camp) We are headed for some real turbulent times in the fta ship. d/n has already employed partial ecm's (as of last week) and shall be following up on implementing the second 1/2 of "their" patch. Times have been bandied about for sometime Sunday morning. (At least that will give the majority of us time to put plan "B" into action. Head for a friend that has a subscriptiion to cable/satellite/whatever.) More info on this as i recieve it.

michael55
02-03-2008, 01:24 AM
hey newbie for your info charlie doesnt work on week-ends .. we are safe until monday at least !!!!!!!!!!!!

2bseen2
02-03-2008, 01:47 AM
hey newbie for your info charlie doesnt work on week-ends .. we are safe until monday at least !!!!!!!!!!!!

i wouldnt bet the farm on that statement

theFinn
02-03-2008, 01:48 AM
*yawn* I'm spending tomorrow out on the ice with my family, skating around for 4 hours is a hell of a lot more entertaining them a lame football game. If my STB is working when I get home fantastic, if not I just have one more reason to shit on the NFL.

Pats suck. Giants Sucks. Football sucks. Centre Ice rules! :D

MikeyG
02-03-2008, 09:40 AM
Giants Sucks. Football sucks. :D
:eek::eek::eek:

Them are fighting words!!!!

MikeyG
02-03-2008, 09:43 AM
Damn, and i just threw out my bootstrap a couple months ago......

Anyway, can someone explain to me why nfusion wouldn't go down in an ecm?

kwtsat
02-03-2008, 09:52 AM
hey newbie for your info charlie doesnt work on week-ends .. we are safe until monday at least !!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess we will find out who the REAL newbie is later on today.....just wait

kerminator01
02-03-2008, 11:48 AM
At least some people are up and having good taughts about this sunday....for my part if it all goes down at least it will give me a chance to go out there and grab a beer and make new friends at the local bar....

D95SI420
02-03-2008, 01:25 PM
So far I am still up with all boxes, wonder when they will set ecm active today.

SLIP_KNOT
02-03-2008, 01:29 PM
FTA testing is my only source of tv but I would never pay for that crap because 90% of the time i sit down and watch it there is NOTHING on so i just sit down with my cw800pvr and put it to use with a nice sized hd and load it up for the next ecm so i always have something to watch. My advice to anyone who is *****ing and complaining about the ecm and no fixes is get a pvr and a life.

MARSON2
02-03-2008, 01:49 PM
After getting screwed all these years with a suscription. I would never go back to having one. Get out the dvd's charlie can kiss my ass!!!!!!!!!!

dish_man_ca
02-03-2008, 01:51 PM
if at all it will be at kickoff, or right as 1/2 time starts!

c00ly
02-03-2008, 03:34 PM
Damn, and i just threw out my bootstrap a couple months ago......

Anyway, can someone explain to me why nfusion wouldn't go down in an ecm?

Because the nfusion nova doesnt calculate keys. Its keys are sent via IKS. (Internet Key Sharing). Most of the time it wont be effected by an ecm because the rest of its code is fine, just the key part needs to be right. So basically when the receiver needs a key a good fast server has calculated keys, a relay requests the keys and sends them to the nfusion... the future of fta :cool:

biver
02-03-2008, 04:35 PM
BEV oredy chenged KEY at PID (0907) today at 1:07 pm ..so SOON gone go .OFF


Feb.03.08 ....:mad::censored:

dish_man_ca
02-03-2008, 04:40 PM
let the game begin! LOL

metalgear1
02-03-2008, 06:00 PM
VS ultra and 2 CW600's both just went

funlove1234
02-03-2008, 06:04 PM
veb down maybe someone should break out alittle crow LOL

dish_man_ca
02-03-2008, 06:05 PM
Let the GAME Begin! LOL

zoey101
02-03-2008, 06:05 PM
Sonicview 4000 down as well. Not surprised, was expecting it.

mcintoro
02-03-2008, 06:07 PM
well at least it was up for UFC last night!!!!!

yummy
02-03-2008, 06:36 PM
i have plan B but A is my fav s/v plz dont let me down :\:|>:D:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship:

neutron
02-03-2008, 09:23 PM
its been a week already with no down time
not including bev
its been a few months since it lasted this long
except for ariza

Jesussoldier
02-03-2008, 09:32 PM
its been a week already with no down time
not including bev
its been a few months since it lasted this long
except for ariza

Yes neuton I agree we can only hope it last another day or so. But I think if does go down vs will be on top of there game. Viewsat rules!!!! :cheers:

wildyfz05
02-03-2008, 11:09 PM
Man, I got my crying towels ready, hunkered down for the big bad black sunday ecm and...and...and...nothing happened on chuck...:confused: What a waste of towels...lol

Good game tho..:worship:

D95SI420
02-04-2008, 01:35 AM
shocked DN stayed up here on a box other than nfusion. Guess they decided to let us win this one. Bev went down at my buddies house though so we ended up back here on DN. Still had a cable backup ready but did not need it:)

drinizi
02-05-2008, 12:24 AM
This was a first for me to my sv 4000 is down while while my cw700 running smooth, I guess having 2 different mod, paid this time.

kasmit5821
02-05-2008, 01:21 PM
hey newbie for your info charlie doesnt work on week-ends .. we are safe until monday at least !!!!!!!!!!!!

charlie works 24/7...:eek:..just like dave...it doesnt take much to hit enter...and wait 4 hours..for reply

D95SI420
02-05-2008, 01:55 PM
having different box types does help and backups are always good.

dabalot57
02-07-2008, 11:27 PM
Well hey, I am new at this and not knowing anything. I was just wondering about feb 9 th? Is the whole fta era over? I figure it must be coming, or so the stuff I'm reading

dish_man_ca
02-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Well hey, I am new at this and not knowing anything. I was just wondering about feb 9 th? Is the whole fta era over? I figure it must be coming, or so the stuff I'm reading

Not at all, they were referring to last sunday, with it being SB sunday. Feb 2009 will see the cease of analog tv broadcasting but that won't affect us either

tecknoman25
02-09-2008, 03:09 AM
i have talked to several people far up the ladder in fta they say fta is going to be around for sometime to come so dont put a lot of stock into rumored crap.:mad:

elchulo21
02-09-2008, 08:23 AM
? why are we left without support .also other model like neosat get the info fast and use captive work made to wait. i think there are more cw out there than others:?: PS IM JUST ASKING NOT CRYING WE NEED HELP OUT HERE TO THANK YOU:!:

elchulo21
02-09-2008, 08:26 AM
? why are we left without support .also other model like neosat get the info fast and use captive work made to wait. i think there are more cw out there than others:?: PS IM JUST ASKING NOT CRYING WE NEED HELP OUT HERE TO THANK YOU:!:

eltormo
02-09-2008, 09:30 AM
? why are we left without support .also other model like neosat get the info fast and use captive work made to wait. i think there are more cw out there than others:?: PS IM JUST ASKING NOT CRYING WE NEED HELP OUT HERE TO THANK YOU:!:



Is like that my friend i also had a captive but i use to have a dish 301 since 1999,and there has been ups and downs since i know,cheer it could be worst you know what happen to the other one.


You just got a had patient my friend.

Breezin
02-09-2008, 09:39 AM
Why the wait for upgrades? Research IKS (interactive key sharing) and you'll find that these units (Neosat, Nfusion, TesSat) are up because they're connected to the Internet. The receiver you menioned requires a firmware update.. which has to be written first. Therefore, the wait.

And when they both go out on a Friday, which they did yesterday, it worsens the problem. Think they know that when they release ECMs on a Friday?:coffee:

John Mc Naught
02-09-2008, 12:23 PM
can you telll me more about (Neosat, Nfusion,TesSat) ? Are there internet receivers ?

bigmik
02-09-2008, 02:45 PM
can you telll me more about (Neosat, Nfusion,TesSat) ? Are there internet receivers ?

Yes they are. Read about IKS before you decide (pros & cons). Me? I`m a bit scared of internet connections but others loved it. So read anything about the subject & decide by yourself.

craig77
02-10-2008, 09:55 PM
dont feel bad i just talked a friend into buying a viewsat now we are down.and hes being impatient i told them that when you get into this hobby there are times you just have to wait ....they'll get a fix have faith

Seasapan
02-10-2008, 10:17 PM
i am really have a bad weekend i am thinking getting back to dn greedy

1Spider
02-10-2008, 11:32 PM
If we were hit like the "Black Sunday" Trust me we would all be down....Some are up....And the Internet boxes....How would you liked to be traced threw the internet and caught...Not many people on the boxes yet maybe there just waiting for more to get them....