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2bseen2
02-15-2008, 11:34 PM
bad news for pansat owners.
c/p;

It seems that several pre-dawn raids in Los Angeles county area have
resulted in the arrest of Blacklist - the infamous Pansat coder - and
his accomplice, Adam Lackman - aka Mr. Leaker.

This is a developing story, but the raids have been confirmed by several
credible sources, including satscams.org


If indeed true, it looks like it is game over for Mr. Kim of Panarex.
Echostar and the Feds now clearly have a connection between the
coder(s) and the manufacturer. This does not bode well for the
entrepreneurs and coders involved in this enterprise. Indeed, they will
most likely be charged under the DMCA and face lengthy jail senteces of
up to 5 years.


If the FBI was investigating Pansat, you can bet the farm Viewsat,
Coolsat and the others in California will be raided too.


It looks like Echostar with the help of the FBI is going to destroy the
FTA industry in the USA rather then secure their own signal which is
the cause of all these problems in the first place.

kndtrpts
02-15-2008, 11:39 PM
great information 2bseen2.

thanks for the heads up.

xbx09
02-15-2008, 11:54 PM
Wow....very interesting. I wonder if BL will still be able to continually promise his "full emu" from a cell?

tracey2234
02-15-2008, 11:55 PM
I am glad this is in the "rumor" section whether it is true or not. This must be at least what the 100th time he has been busted LOL!!!

All kiding adside....I hope this is not true..this would be very bad for the community!

watchit
02-16-2008, 12:00 AM
Why someone like Mr BL would be so accessible. It seems like the FBI is maybe using the anti-terrorist laws (and technology) for more than terrorists... or Mr BL did something more obvious than one that plays in this type of game should..

szot
02-16-2008, 12:16 AM
Rumor is that Leaker and BL both got popped...that logged chat with an FULL EMU announcement, that is circulating all over the net, is definitely NOT Blacklist...lets wait and see, there just actually maybe some truth to this rumor...

bud1i9ht
02-16-2008, 12:25 AM
all these rumors are keeping me intrigued but gotta wait and see how it all plays out thanks for the read

neutron
02-16-2008, 12:31 AM
this is cut and paste from blacklist team

If security and safety is your concern, we can assure you that you can sleep tight knowing that you are safe. The entire Blacklist team are located throughout Europe, where this sort of practice is considered legitimate. The servers are extremely secure and located offshore in the pr1stine safe-haven of the Bahamas. Payments are accepted through PayPal safely.Also, in case you were wondering, as soon as you signup for support, you will be granted instant access .



You are invited to join the elite underground community of the most knowledgeble minds in the satellite testing. Check it all out today!!!

Regards,

Team Blacklist

they said they where not in the states
they used to be known as dr7 or something like that back in the day in europe

Adam lackman was said to be scammer also years back

watchit
02-16-2008, 12:33 AM
tried to google it... could not find anything... but I did find one bust by E* done back sometime ago... you know what was interesting... some of the sites that were busted were used to bust people that supposedly helped other people get encrypted signals... hmmmm... could not find if they were ever prosecuted and convicted or not... interesting take on who and who can not be busted...

neutron
02-16-2008, 12:37 AM
if hystory repeats it was manufacturers first then sites then end users

szot
02-16-2008, 12:40 AM
I would suggest that people stay away from both Future and TK, until this is confirmed...something is definitely up...and of course, TBL will throw up smoke screens...they always have...

neutron
02-16-2008, 12:50 AM
what i posted is not new and is not from their sites
they where starting their first site when i got this
from way back
they used to code for europe market

albania
02-16-2008, 01:55 AM
as long as we have something let not wory about the big guys they know how to take care of themself:thmbup:

mikey5000
02-16-2008, 02:13 AM
I hope this is just a rumor time will tell.

dannybouch
02-16-2008, 02:27 AM
nest time dish is down witch should be soon ,,,just got to wait and see how fast pansat comes back up if never then maybe rumour is not just rumour but if bins come out by bl then maybe just rumour

gigster
02-16-2008, 03:40 AM
From trusted site



Blacklist Apparently Raided by FBI

OK,you know we don't hold back here, it is with deep regret that I inform you that the rumor of BL being busted has been confirmed by various trusted sources. I have known this for a few days as was evident in the Pansat Rumor thread, but the fact is, we still have no solid confirmation so I didn't come right out and say anything in order to avoid panic.

I am telling you this so that you can avoid al7bar.** which is/was bl's site. Also avoid his IRC Channel like the plague! His PC is apparently in the hands of the feds now and who knows what they got. It is also very apparent that chat log is not him as I said in the other thread. Here is a quote from ******* on the matter..

Quote:
Originally Posted by ****** View Post
i just got further confirmation this rumor is true last night
now in addition naming blacklist it also includes mr.leaker

FBI exercised a warrant and raided the home and business of blacklist and then did the same to mr.leaker.
all computers, hardware, cellphones, personal records and customer/associate lists of every kind were taken, according to source.

this will remain in rumour till 100% factual evidence is shown
and here is my reply..

Quote:
Originally Posted by ***** View Post
Well, being that no one has seen him online nor heard from him, I would tend to think this is true, but I sure hope not. Those of us who have been around long enough know that chat log is not him. I was told that some pretty big people confirmed this to be true. There is no satopia fix that I know of and Pansat took many days to release a partial fix, that is very uncharacteristic of the blacklist camp. It's clear that something did happen. But what? The ones denying it seem to be all the ones who have business interests to protect.
This is indeed very sad news and I take no joy in posting this so I ask you again to not bash Pansat. I'm sure someone else will pick up on making the files, but who knows how long that will last, only time will tell. They must have wanted to get him before he let out the full emu. ;(

mikey5000
02-16-2008, 03:50 AM
That sucks big time !

gigster
02-16-2008, 03:52 AM
I know it does. I know the site i got that post from is a trusted one but we will wait and see what happens next couple of days

mikey5000
02-16-2008, 04:46 AM
Thanks gigster for the info again.

PapaBear
02-16-2008, 06:32 AM
Unfortunately gigster, you are usually right. I hate to see this info but like you said, we will wait and see.

ripntime
02-16-2008, 06:50 AM
Thanks for the info, whether true on not. Should help keep us on our toes.
Well somethings up for sure the rats are gettin in the hen house again.
As opposed to a few months back when it was the hen was in the rat house.
hehe..

dslchome
02-16-2008, 07:12 AM
This is a Rumor this should be Closed.

do0d
02-16-2008, 07:24 AM
This is a Rumor this should be Closed.

Its posted in the rumor section.

dommy
02-16-2008, 07:37 AM
i've read it on other sites hope it's not true

bobo12
02-16-2008, 08:08 AM
If it is true, so what then? It is not illegal to write code and share it. It is criminal to sell or accept money for code. They have to prove a money connection and that can be more difficult, especially back to the manufacture who is in Korea or China. I'm sure there are plenty of coders out there who do it as a hobby and have nothing to worry about. To be safe a tester should never pay for code either. Testing is a hobby and should not be done for financial gain. You can be sure the feds are trying to find a money connection, because that is the only reason they can prosecute.

xzigzag
02-16-2008, 09:33 AM
gee whaddah fkn bummer

Imars99
02-16-2008, 11:21 AM
Quick update for all rumors!!!!!
Blacklist never been arrested!!!! He never done anaugh to be arrested.!!!!
This is what I was trying to start with, Please all understand rumor will kill this market without any actions!!!!..... I did heared few people got reided and arrested, but dont know how true it is! I never believe in that unless if I see any actuall paper works!!!! But you guys have to understand I have to keep my side safe to void actions like that.... Me beeing quet this days has big one reason to clear if that realy happened and who got arrested.......
Please STOP!!! Rumors because by rumors this community gets hurt!!!! its always hard to fix something then create new one!
All be happy!!!
Regards,
Blacklist

Imars99
02-16-2008, 11:22 AM
This is latest update from Blacklist.

dmantom
02-16-2008, 11:49 AM
It is never a good idea to get into this kind of discussion. It is probably best to say.. "a well known individual who shall remain nameless" etc.. Everyone knows who you are talking about. Even using someone's nick creates problems. Just my 2 cents.

neutron
02-16-2008, 01:06 PM
this is c/p from blacklist this morning


Blacklist never been arrested!!!! He never done anaugh to be arrested.!!!!
This is what I was trying to start with, Please all understand rumor will kill this market without any actions!!!!..... I did heared few people got reided and arrested, but dont know how true it is! I never believe in that unless if I see any actuall paper works!!!! But you guys have to understand I have to keep my side safe to void actions like that.... Me beeing quet this days has big one reason to clear if that realy happened and who got arrested.......
Please STOP!!! Rumors because by rumors this community gets hurt!!!! its always hard to fix something then create new one!
All be happy!!!
Regards,
Blacklist

dodgesonly
02-16-2008, 01:39 PM
It seems to me I remember reading Pansats originating in Asia and Europe so I would assume that BL would be in these areas as well so how would our lovely FBI be able to have them in custody under our laws?:read:

wvababy
02-16-2008, 01:51 PM
Every time DN plays it's little game we get this rumors that BL has been arrested. I am sure BL is safe
and secure if not then he isn't as smart as we all think he is. BL stay safe and sound .

Mr_Sing
02-16-2008, 01:55 PM
A good wake up call for everyone. These days the first thing they do is, get a warrent and take all your computers and hard drives. Do't be a dumb ass, encrypy all your hard drives. It is not that difficult, just somtimes a little inconvieient .


Sing

Crow 492
02-16-2008, 02:00 PM
Quick update for all rumors!!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blacklist never been arrested!!!! He never done anaugh to be arrested.!!!!
This is what I was trying to start with, Please all understand rumor will kill this market without any actions!!!!..... I did heared few people got reided and arrested, but dont know how true it is! I never believe in that unless if I see any actuall paper works!!!! But you guys have to understand I have to keep my side safe to void actions like that.... Me beeing quet this days has big one reason to clear if that realy happened and who got arrested.......
Please STOP!!! Rumors because by rumors this community gets hurt!!!! its always hard to fix something then create new one!
All be happy!!!
Regards,
Blacklist

So I think we can put this in the rumor section now.

neutron
02-16-2008, 02:11 PM
it is in rumor section

and i think i already saw that posted here before
not sure
let me go back some posts to see

Mr_Sing
02-16-2008, 02:26 PM
Blacklist arrested

Maybe not, but he sure was at least raided.

Sing

gigster
02-16-2008, 02:27 PM
this is still in the rumors section on every site no one has really 100% confirmed this the post I made was from a known site, but still a rumor. we will just have to wait and see

watchit
02-16-2008, 02:31 PM
no real news on it yet - either fron news wires or other crime sites

blackout
02-16-2008, 02:51 PM
We will all know sooner than later when he posts the B3V fix. No news no bust thanks BL.

railroad99
02-16-2008, 02:57 PM
Why someone like Mr BL would be so accessible. It seems like the FBI is maybe using the anti-terrorist laws (and technology) for more than terrorists... or Mr BL did something more obvious than one that plays in this type of game should..

Lets watch out for them terrorists boy they sure are everywhere here in the us there killing people wth FTA toys ! I just heard on the news that the DEMS walked out on the bush bill of haveing the telco listen to every move we make on the phone bush said at 12:00 there would be something badd happened . the only thing bad is what he will have his spys do or his own persanly terrorists do sorry bush your days of spying on us is soon going to be over and we all can go back to our hobbies and have fun again !:evil::twisted::twisted::twisted::idea:

neutron
02-16-2008, 03:17 PM
this is old
it started last week when he didnt post any fix
then he spoke on irc then it was said again he was busted then he said himself he is not
and still there are people saying he is
this is c/p from irc a few days back before the latest fix


[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» ««« Thanks For The "Op's" Future-BoT »»»
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» Hey Guys
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» lol
[11:25pm]« Cuetip » hello BL[11:25pm]« FtaMan » bl hey
[11:25pm] <pacific101> What's Up BlackList
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» hows everyone
[11:25pm] FtaMan sets mode: +m
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» I heared
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» news about my self beeing[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» Busted
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» its allover
[11:25pm]«@ Blacklist» He He
[11:25pm]« Cuetip » lol
[11:26pm] <pacific101> Laughing Out Loud
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» Be happy
[11:26pm]« FtaMan » indeed busted that rumor
[11:26pm]«+ westernohiopc » hey bl... how are you
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» no one busted
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» "_
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» BE HAPPY!!!!!
[11:26pm]«+ ROLEX » lgood lol
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» wait for more
[11:26pm]«+ westernohiopc » We have all been defending you all night to all the idiots
[11:26pm] <pacific101> except your butt from working so hard
[11:26pm]« FtaMan » we have faith BL
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» cool
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» so just came to say
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» everything is cool
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» no one is busted
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» be happy
[11:26pm]« FtaMan » thanx so much
[11:26pm]« Mr-Imacdaddy » hey prich how about something newier that thing is old man
[11:26pm]«@ Blacklist» tell everyone to shut up
[11:27pm]« FtaMan » lol
[11:27pm]«@ hwy101» we do
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» if I dont come here doesnt mean I am busted
[11:27pm]« FtaMan » yes sir
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» Be Happy
[11:27pm]« Cuetip » I'll tell them whats up BL lol
[11:27pm]«+ Blaksmith » ROFL Blacklist
[11:27pm]«+ westernohiopc » Thanks on the update
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» just wait for new sollution
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» always
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» TRUE FTA!!!!!!
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist»
[11:27pm]«+ westernohiopc » is it full emu dude?
[11:27pm]«+ westernohiopc » that is lengthy... i have heard
[11:27pm]« Sgt » ty bl
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» westernohiopc Yes this is Full emu DUDE!!!
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist»
[11:27pm]«@ Blacklist» Dont kick him please
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist»
[11:28pm]«+ westernohiopc »
[11:28pm] <pacific101> Laughing Out Loud
[11:28pm]« Sgt » ;-)
[11:28pm]« Cuetip » NOiCE!
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» let everyone talks what they feel to
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» "_
[11:28pm]« FtaMan » BL is da man
[11:28pm] <pacific101> we got your back BlackList
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» no hates to each other
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» give us little more time
[11:28pm]« FtaMan » oh yea we got ur back
[11:28pm]«@ Astrodude» hopefully now all the whiners will sit up and listen
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» almost done what I promised to people
[11:28pm]« Mr-Imacdaddy » good evening mr blacklist
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» "_
[11:28pm]«@ Blacklist» Thanks all
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» and be happy
[11:29pm]«+ westernohiopc » I have been telling people that and that was why pansat is better ... we are getting a full emu,,, and they arent,,, lol
[11:29pm]« FtaMan » no thank u bl
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» be back online real soon
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist»
[11:29pm]«+ westernohiopc » THANK U
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» I am super busy
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist»
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» BRB ALL
[11:29pm]«+ ROLEX » thanks Blacklist for all the years
[11:29pm]«@ hwy101» well I am smoking a pipe and I am real happy
[11:29pm] <pacific101> Okay back to work for you BlackList
[11:29pm]«+ Ashley » Thanks for stopping in..
[11:29pm]Joins: JavaUser (JavaUser@7F6A2A9A.2C83D0EC.8479B4FD.IP) «415 users »
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» sure
[11:29pm]« Sgt » •hwy101• pas it...
[11:29pm]«+ westernohiopc » NICE GUY
[11:29pm]« Rattis » Now Online.. FTA Radio Tune In @ http://xxxxxxxxxx - Now Streaming for Winamp & Windows Media Player. Join #FTA-Radio For Requests & Apply To Become A DJ
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» it was getting bigger bullshit
[11:29pm]« FtaMan » thanx again bl ur hard work is very appreciated
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» "_
[11:29pm]« Sgt » •hwy101• pass it...
[11:29pm]«+ Blaksmith » Blacklist, take all the time you need to get the code right
[11:29pm] * Cuetip Agrees with ROLEX
[11:29pm]«@ Blacklist» I was thinking its right to come
[11:29pm]«@ Astrodude» there you have it people, straight from the source
[11:29pm]«+ westernohiopc » gonna go post this on my site... brb
[11:30pm]« Cuetip » thanks Blacklist for all the years
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» and makesure everyone is back on their own rumors"_"
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» Bye all be happy
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» soon real soon
[11:30pm]« Cuetip » it's been along run, and it's still not over!
[11:30pm]«+ Ashley » I am sure the MODS appreciate it saves them a great deal of work
[11:30pm]« FtaMan » bye
[11:30pm]« Cuetip »
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» I will done what I promised
[11:30pm]«@ Astrodude» hey Blacklist, tell them to go listen to #fta-radio while you and your team are done
[11:30pm]« Cuetip » c ya
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» Have fun
[11:30pm] <pacific101> laterz BlackList
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» enjoy your stay
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» !!!!
[11:30pm]«@ Blacklist» Thanks
[11:30pm]«@ mola» thx bl, ftaman, taking the +m off?
[11:30pm]Parts: Blacklist (Blacklist@xxxxxxx) «416 users »

cub83bam
02-16-2008, 03:31 PM
bad news for pansat owners.
c/p;

It seems that several pre-dawn raids in Los Angeles county area have
resulted in the arrest of Blacklist - the infamous Pansat coder - and
his accomplice, Adam Lackman - aka Mr. Leaker.

This is a developing story, but the raids have been confirmed by several
credible sources, including satscams.org


If indeed true, it looks like it is game over for Mr. Kim of Panarex.
Echostar and the Feds now clearly have a connection between the
coder(s) and the manufacturer. This does not bode well for the
entrepreneurs and coders involved in this enterprise. Indeed, they will
most likely be charged under the DMCA and face lengthy jail senteces of
up to 5 years.


If the FBI was investigating Pansat, you can bet the farm Viewsat,
Coolsat and the others in California will be raided too.


It looks like Echostar with the help of the FBI is going to destroy the
FTA industry in the USA rather then secure their own signal which is
the cause of all these problems in the first place.
BL has posted a note on another site saying that this is not true.If you want to destroy FTA,all you have to do is to keep speading false,maliscious rumours.

2bseen2
02-16-2008, 03:47 PM
BL has posted a note on another site saying that this is not true.If you want to destroy FTA,all you have to do is to keep speading false,maliscious rumours.

dont be pointing the finger at me brother,i posted this in the rumours section and if i didnt post it someone else would have.people like you should REALLY take a look at the big picture here,if the man is busted he is busted.really wont make much of a difference in a few months anyways.the only thing that is going to destroy fta is the bickering and finger pointing like YOU are doing in your pathetic post.if you dont like what you read brother very simple dont read.this is a hobby for me and fta is not my world not like some people.:mad: if bl posted on another site you better make sure that IT really was him,you know what i mean BROTHER.

funlove1234
02-16-2008, 04:05 PM
Come on everyone needs to relax, this is the rumors section and thus the reason for the post.

Heck tomorrow I'm going to start a rumor that Hillary Clinton was hiding in the podium during Obamas last speech.

Monica doesn't have shit on Hillary.

PapaBear
02-16-2008, 04:31 PM
lol

djrickyraw
02-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Blacklist never been arrested!!!! He never done anaugh to be arrested.!!!!
This is what I was trying to start with, Please all understand rumor will kill this market without any actions!!!!..... I did heared few people got reided and arrested, but dont know how true it is! I never believe in that unless if I see any actuall paper works!!!! But you guys have to understand I have to keep my side safe to void actions like that.... Me beeing quet this days has big one reason to clear if that realy happened and who got arrested.......
Please STOP!!! Rumors because by rumors this community gets hurt!!!! its always hard to fix something then create new one!
All be happy!!!
Regards,
Blacklist

dendel
02-16-2008, 06:54 PM
wow i see to much problems for only a rumor, in Mexico we don't have this kind of problems
we only w8 for time and everything shows up, i think that the rumor section should be suspended or something like that, then this community wouldn't have arguing problems between friends with the same hobbies, i hope this kind of arguments bring us an experience to stop having diferents points of views, we want the same, that this last for long

regards to all

nightbirdowl
02-16-2008, 06:56 PM
Lets watch out for them terrorists boy they sure are everywhere here in the us there killing people wth FTA toys ! I just heard on the news that the DEMS walked out on the bush bill of haveing the telco listen to every move we make on the phone bush said at 12:00 there would be something badd happened . the only thing bad is what he will have his spys do or his own persanly terrorists do sorry bush your days of spying on us is soon going to be over and we all can go back to our hobbies and have fun again !:evil::twisted::twisted::twisted::idea:

Railroad99,
I have to agree with you on the bill extention that bush wants to wire tap for terriost, yea my butt. I think the government is getting to big for it's britches and for the wire tapping or net access I could not imagine that bush is not getting money from a freaking lobbyist (dishnet) to find out who the individuals are. Now it gets back to many who wrote that if you make the files an open source then there would be no issues with the FBI or the Dish to intervien or go after. It would be nice to make multiple files "fake" or "legit" to sc::: with them.

I think I may had too many beers:5shots:. to be responding to this thread.. But heck I am upset with the whole issue of our government in the way they are spendng our taxes go after the FTA. With the Iran, China and North Korea. God you think the FBI would go after some freaking real criminals for once, why not they are afraid to go after the drug lords.... Or Im scared that I maybe shot.. Man, sorry folks I am just getting tired of our government priorities... I think the next president "What Choice" idiots in my opionion needs to write the "Delecration of Independence" fifty times before he is elected in office!!!! I am done if it has offended anyone sorry, just my thoughts and believe me I could keep going and going.....

NOB

arght
02-17-2008, 12:11 AM
Hi this is just the info i get but yes blacklist was busted and it will be tough for pansat but it was for inport/export that he got busted for not for codeing or fta and im sure it will all work out

yingyangdragun
02-17-2008, 01:43 AM
every time we have down time theses rumors start I for one don't believe it but we will all wait and see


yingyangdragun:|>

albania
02-17-2008, 01:53 AM
we are all a happy big family :thmbup:

dodgesonly
02-17-2008, 02:05 AM
IF(note the if )he was busted I am truly sorry for him and especially ,his family.I would think the authorities would be going after something of a more serious nature-Terrorists, murderers, rapists etc.If those who have been whining about fixes would put themselves in that kind of situation, maybe they would think twice before whining.

cub83bam
02-17-2008, 02:11 AM
Evidently,most of you people haven't bothered to read post #46 of this thread.The words from the person you are talking about himself.

ali522
02-17-2008, 03:10 AM
lol another rumour found on other site
C/P
It is not a rumour, they got him. Toronto dealers are clearing out their inventory now. Most likely Viewsat/Coolsat will be raided next. A very sad day indeed.

ali522
02-17-2008, 03:18 AM
Guys a really intresting point someone told me that i thought should share with you guys, ON futurefta in the annoucement the guy who posted the update is only Blacklist but the guy who posts bin TeamBlackList so they are not the same guys and another point they dont have the new file on their forum and they didnt even change the status for Bev on the front page so ithink there is something wrong.

gigster
02-17-2008, 03:52 AM
I know him a long time & guess what?
That chat was NOT Blacklist! He doesn't say "dude, he doesn't say "super" & he doesn't say "cool" Be careful people, something starting to stink here..

Posted by TDG

xbx09
02-17-2008, 01:02 PM
Evidently,most of you people haven't bothered to read post #46 of this thread.The words from the person you are talking about himself.

Yeah, I guess it would be impossible to pretend to be somebody else on the INTERNET. Common.

neutron
02-17-2008, 01:18 PM
I know him a long time & guess what?
That chat was NOT Blacklist! He doesn't say "dude, he doesn't say "super" & he doesn't say "cool" Be careful people, something starting to stink here..

Posted by TDG

wasnt tdg one of the snitches named months ago
some even said he was arrested

blacklist also goes by other names even here in this site
the most common are bianka,bingo bingo or coolsat guy
he doesnt always mispell
so good spelling does not mean it wasnt him

since he posted on official site he was not in trouble
i will believe untill someone shows documents of the contrary

lewis1018
02-17-2008, 02:02 PM
I have not seen sufficient evidence to confirm that this is a fact, so let us consider this to be a rumour until we can prove otherwise.

superbrad
02-17-2008, 02:11 PM
oh no...... neutron and gigster...... two differing opinions.... my ftabins heroes.....lol..... i dont know what to believe now....lol

myspamtrap
02-17-2008, 02:23 PM
well considering that no one has posted any verifiable facts, its normal that we all have differing opinions regarding posts and rumors started on other sites

cheers

szot
02-17-2008, 02:29 PM
ANYBODY who knows Blacklist at all, knows that DEFINITELY was NOT him...

But yes this raid against Blacklist and Leaker is ONLY a RUMOR, which will be denied by both Pansat., BL, and the authorities now...it would be months before we may know the truth

crazy sat
02-17-2008, 02:58 PM
i think those are rumors from the competitors o other words haters .

pansatdon
02-17-2008, 03:47 PM
i bet dollars to cents is just arumor something like that become news very soon.[ COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"][/color]

pan22
02-17-2008, 04:07 PM
from earlier post by gigster i believe he busted i havent been in this game a while but the info gigster brings to the table is pretty reliable

lewis1018
02-17-2008, 04:13 PM
If this is true why are the boxes still up on DN? all must remember that it was the last set of boxes that file came out for.

pan22
02-17-2008, 04:22 PM
nobody knows maybe for us to think everthing is fine and bl bust is just a lie or somebody else steped up to the plate to make the fix

colonel
02-17-2008, 04:39 PM
rumours, rumours, I know for fact, he is supporting the new satopia boxes, but he is always in Germany., for sure he likes the spotlight.

lewis1018
02-17-2008, 04:56 PM
I am sure that wherever he is, he must be laughing at these rumours. So for those of you who owns a Pansat and believe the rumours, through them in the garbage because you are going to live to regret it.

blackout
02-17-2008, 05:01 PM
all they have to do is prove it by brinning out the B3V bin. different country. Shure not helping there sales. who the hecks going to buy pansat. or satopia

lewis1018
02-17-2008, 05:20 PM
I am always confidence that the b3v bin will be out to dismiss all the rumours.

lewis1018
02-17-2008, 05:26 PM
Let us give this some time rumours life is short.

szot
02-17-2008, 07:58 PM
Blacklist is Romanian, not German....Blacklist does NOT solely write the Pansat codes, there is a group of people (Team Blacklist aka TBL)..codes for Pansat will still be available, even if BL was raided..The prosecutor and news media, would have no need to make this public...to them, this would not even be news worthy!...Blacklist is not a President or the Pope. he's just a FTA coder who buys most of his work from the plastic guys who are fed up with the FTA coders for not giving credit where it belongs...Blacklist himself is really no big deal!...more of a status symbol, than anything...

what is a big deal, is that this sends a strong message to the FTA community, sites, coders, and admins/mods...but thats very small in the scope of world news!

dmantom
02-17-2008, 08:09 PM
I was shoveling snow in my driveway the other day and bl flew by in a beoeing 747, honked the horn and waved to me.. I know it was him because if he has been arrested, why is my pansat still working.? hahaha

kenmoresp
02-17-2008, 08:14 PM
You are right. He isn't the president or the pope. he is much more important.:lol:

RJF
02-17-2008, 08:16 PM
even if they come out with north its easy to convert other files for the north from files all ready released if you know the coding. a real test is the emu files for pansat.as no other team has been working as hard as they have.north is actually a patch file already been released by other coders. emu is the real test for the team.if it is released then we know the team is still together.need I say more

kenmoresp
02-17-2008, 08:16 PM
Don't throw your pansats in the garbage. PM me. I will give you my address. and even pay postage.

blackout
02-17-2008, 08:18 PM
Ok thats why the news in florida, about the old fart selling monthly subscriptions ;fta was all over local and cnn news and furthermore do you think BL is a larger piece of the puzzle than than the old fart from florida ?

szot
02-17-2008, 08:19 PM
Blacklist has been keeping the plumbers busy..LOL

myspamtrap
02-17-2008, 08:24 PM
ROFLOL or at least the rumormongers.

blackout
02-17-2008, 08:28 PM
i got to say that was funny LOL

szot
02-17-2008, 08:43 PM
There was an increase in garage sales this weekend...at least Blacklist is "stimulating " the economy...LOL

kenmoresp
02-17-2008, 09:07 PM
:confused:Did someone say BL was the old fart in florida? I thought he was in Germany or Romania.
Or was it Yugoslavia?

lewis1018
02-17-2008, 10:26 PM
Perhaps BL is not event the most important person he is just a member of the team. When you fly between States in an aircraft, if the pilot has a heart attack the co-pilot still flies and lands the aircraft. So then Blacklist or no Blacklist you will still have files for you box.

neutron
02-18-2008, 01:10 AM
the latest news from raids in la county have nothing to do with fta

The FBI conducted multiple raids across the country today, closing down Lineage II pirating site L2Extreme, NCsoft said.

L2E was providing an estimated 50,000 gamers with unauthorized access to Lineage II, costing NCsoft million of dollars a year, the company said in a press release.

"Operations like this essentially are defrauding customers by stealing from companies like NCsoft," said Matt Esber, NCsoft North America general counsel. "In the end those losses impact our customer support, product development, operational areas and ultimately they impact our player communities, most of which are trying to play games legitimately. This group in particular was downloading our version of the Lineage II software from our servers, costing us close to a million dollars in realized bandwidth costs during the period it was operational.

"We've taken this action because we strongly believe in defending the intellectual property rights that we've worked so hard to create. We're extremely pleased that the FBI has worked with us so diligently to bring this particular case to its current state and we want our customers to understand that we will continue to fight similar operations in the future in order to maintain the integrity of all NCsoft games."


THe investigation into L2Extreme is ongoing in various cities from California to Virginia Brian Crecente

this news is not new just the latest from la county

nightbirdowl
02-18-2008, 01:14 PM
I think Dis@ has no more ECM's to send out. So I suspect they probably had started this rumor to put the fear of no more support. It would be nice to see the FTA events over the years to see the same ole "History always repeats"...

Just my two cents.

NBO

funlove1234
02-18-2008, 08:25 PM
I think Dis@ has no more ECM's to send out. So I suspect they probably had started this rumor to put the fear of no more support. It would be nice to see the FTA events over the years to see the same ole "History always repeats"...

Just my two cents.

NBO

LoL Right on, isn't it funny you stick around long enough it all comes back in time.

tracey2234
02-18-2008, 08:33 PM
the latest news from raids in la county have nothing to do with fta

The FBI conducted multiple raids across the country today, closing down Lineage II pirating site L2Extreme, NCsoft said.

L2E was providing an estimated 50,000 gamers with unauthorized access to Lineage II, costing NCsoft million of dollars a year, the company said in a press release.

"Operations like this essentially are defrauding customers by stealing from companies like NCsoft," said Matt Esber, NCsoft North America general counsel. "In the end those losses impact our customer support, product development, operational areas and ultimately they impact our player communities, most of which are trying to play games legitimately. This group in particular was downloading our version of the Lineage II software from our servers, costing us close to a million dollars in realized bandwidth costs during the period it was operational.

"We've taken this action because we strongly believe in defending the intellectual property rights that we've worked so hard to create. We're extremely pleased that the FBI has worked with us so diligently to bring this particular case to its current state and we want our customers to understand that we will continue to fight similar operations in the future in order to maintain the integrity of all NCsoft games."


THe investigation into L2Extreme is ongoing in various cities from California to Virginia Brian Crecente

this news is not new just the latest from la county

Thanks for the update "neutron"...much appreciated!

lewis1018
02-18-2008, 10:50 PM
Thanks for the info.

mudassar007
02-19-2008, 01:25 AM
thanks for sharing

RJF
02-19-2008, 03:41 AM
Isn't it surprizing that we have the first files released from a pansat support time faster then the competion since all the bs about bl being busted. the pressure must be on pansat to clean up their act. while knowing their share of the market was going to the farm

dei
02-19-2008, 03:48 AM
But yet BEV is still black....lol

lewis1018
02-19-2008, 07:40 AM
Where are all of you who help to spread the rumours? The latest files for Pansat boxes are out and you are all quiet on the subject.

cnsickles
02-19-2008, 11:13 AM
The guy that said that this is not news worthy info is incorrect. That little fellow down in Florida hit CNN for goodness sake. The person we are talking about is in most peoples eyes the DON figure of our little group. I know that comment is incriminating to him but so is this whole thread, not just my comment. If it means that much to us for the potential loss of free tv for all, that guy down in Florida is nothing. This is definitely CNN material. If in fact this is true surely it would have hit his local paper or something by now that he was arrested. I'm sure there is someone from our community that lives near by who could confirm this news. And we don't want hear "it was in the paper yesterday". We want hear which paper, where, at this point his location is a matter of public record, if he has in fact, been arrested. So keeping that info. to yourself, in my eyes, would prove your psot is BS about BL. Until I see proof this is indeed a rumor, which is fine right now. What else do we have to do were all up on sat tv, even Pansat.

blackout
02-19-2008, 11:21 AM
Yea were all up on older files didn't have to wait for new fix, which is a old file. and no
B3V

cnsickles
02-19-2008, 11:42 AM
I know it is an old fix. My point was that this is fine to talk about since we are all up. If we were all down we could discuss something else.

kenny400ex
02-19-2008, 11:42 AM
I agree with cnsickles, could not have said it better myself!:thmbup:

blackout
02-19-2008, 12:11 PM
ok not to be disrespectfull but there is no fix for B3V on pansat for a week now. i hope bl is safe but other recivers are up on B3V The fix will be the key.

cnsickles
02-19-2008, 12:34 PM
I'm not aimed at bev so I apologize if I offended you. That is not a first though so don't be alarmed by that. If know bl which I don't at all it would be fun to make everyone sweat just a bit. I know it's not good business since but if hes not company funded what be the harm.

All I have to say is everyone with a Pansat SELL IT NOW!!! Just kidding you'll be fine. It's just like anything else, if a position opens it is filled in short order. That seems a bit cold hearted but its true. I like BL and hope this is what I think it is BULLSHIT. Sorry for spelling it out but that my opinion. Until I see the in the news section I will not post on this subject again.

blackout
02-19-2008, 12:46 PM
Ok i am not offended, But my 9200HD just went down to 28 cents LOL

pcreeser
02-19-2008, 01:42 PM
not too sure about what stb you guys have, but cw has been up and running on 119, 110 and bev. for about 2 weeks now. The last time we were down was about a week ago, but only Dish. The fix that was out a week ago Monday fixed dish, but also got us though the Bev ecm untouched

testing
cw600p
cw700
cw800pvr

2bseen2
02-19-2008, 02:05 PM
Where are all of you who help to spread the rumours? The latest files for Pansat boxes are out and you are all quiet on the subject.

well you must be pretty happy with your pansat,didnt have to wait to long for a dish fix,we will see if a bev fix comes out anytime soon.i hope it is bl that is doing the coding,would hate to see any coder get busted.

lewis1018
02-19-2008, 02:54 PM
I am very happy regardless of the rumours that I still have a fix. I can watch TV.

blackout
02-19-2008, 05:59 PM
Pansat didn't do nothining. it's a old fix from weeks back, you can go get it yourself.

SkyPilot
02-19-2008, 11:17 PM
This rumor comes out every year and has yet to be true.

dmantom
02-19-2008, 11:19 PM
blacklist is really a ghost:)

neutron
02-19-2008, 11:29 PM
watchit has a rumour that mr kim went to korea
does anyone know if brother in law was with him

only for those who know

szot
02-19-2008, 11:58 PM
This is the first time EVER of a rumor regarding a BL raid...

yes alleged Mr Kim left alone, on a 1 way ticket to Korea...another unsubstantiated rumor...but now that one can easily be comfirmed..

BL is for real, cause I have met the man...

neutron
02-20-2008, 12:10 AM
This is the first time EVER of a rumor regarding a BL raid...

yes alleged Mr Kim left alone, on a 1 way ticket to Korea...another unsubstantiated rumor...but now that one can easily be comfirmed..

BL is for real, cause I have met the man...

it has nothing to do with this
but were you among radius and snake in s*tsp**s back in the day

tvrepairs
02-20-2008, 02:05 AM
Seems kinda funny we don`t have a bev fix and the files that was posted for the last dn fix is only old files that was renAmed and they was posted on all other sites first before they been posted on the BL site Because they are always posted there first.

surgorokus
02-20-2008, 02:25 AM
i think that if bl is indeed busted. it would slow us down but can the capture of one man take us out???? tha fta community has gotta be stronger than one man ?? i think that everytime we are down, its said that [ its over ]. . and we play word games .then its ok ,and enjoy the good stuff!!!

raga
02-20-2008, 06:48 AM
From Blacklist!!! - 02-20-2008
Sorry for the delay since it took some time for me just to make sure all the BS and rumors going round over net. Guys and girls, just be happy. Nothing to be concorned of. Engineers are working on BEV fix too now and it will take a couple of more days with the new EMU. It was a little break for all the way for our goal.

Thank you.

Blacklist:D

Blacklist
02-20-2008, 10:53 AM
Yes This is REAL DEAL GUYS!!!!
Just registered to explain all you guys whats right thing to do as of today!
All my reason to be her is because of user named (SZOT).
Blacklist is not Rumanian, I asked my self and he said NOPE!!!!! (incorrect)
Blacklist is not the only solely writer (True)
News media has nothing to do with this unless if I get Busted! (Incorrect and why).
How long have you been and what you ever done for the community? (Just feeling bad not beeing known as I am ?). More people will continue!!!
BL never buys codes from others!
Viewsat always contacts me for GC keys or for autoroll, not me!
Lots of things I can say and I wish if I could prove, proving will cause the real trouble that lots of people waiting to see it! Without even thinging wont benefit them, it will make them to stop posting or etc.... in FTA community.
Never had that history in my experiance on buying code!!! I made deal to share but not buying! (Incorrect).
Blacklist it self is the BIG DEAL in this Market.
Its simple, and you are mature person to have incorrect opinion and some kind of close correct information. If the person supported Pansat receivers almost 4 years, that has beeing out for more then 1 mill people wich is damaging DN for Millions of dollors (no one care about BL you are right but they car about $$$ that they lost). You always have to understand BL=Busted=Market=Busted=You and all others BUSTED... You think if Feds bust me and take me in and media confirms with real documents, you think other coders will have the balls to give you more TV to Enjoy? lool if yes, then you are not from this market accidently got in a different forum...... For FEDS to shut the market down is like peace of shit!!!. All they need is to find out if we are realy doing something bad and find the big known fish, other will get exploded not because of my mouth, just my bust will effect on market and all coders will hide by seeing my experiance..... You can joke with Cops, but you dont want to joke with Feds!!!
There are more known and unknown coders, but I am the one of the known one for DN to target me and make the hole to destroy this market, I just feel so bad and never thaught how people are beeing this much smartness to spread rumors like this to destroy FTA Community. Some of them wont care about it just my haters, this message only goes to people who cares about FTA Community!
I will feel bad to sit and explain people life, because no one ever post anything to make me be proud of him! Always remember Best choice to keep this FTA market?, I would ask all the admins to continue their support for long time unless if they dont delete this thread starting from Page 1.
Regards,
Blacklist yes real Blacklist!!!!
It will be known in soon time... within 24 hours I will confirm.

Please DO NOT ask me questions this will be one and only post from me!
Opinions are welcome
------------------- Ends here!




Blacklist is Romanian, not German....Blacklist does NOT solely write the Pansat codes, there is a group of people (Team Blacklist aka TBL)..codes for Pansat will still be available, even if BL was raided..The prosecutor and news media, would have no need to make this public...to them, this would not even be news worthy!...Blacklist is not a President or the Pope. he's just a FTA coder who buys most of his work from the plastic guys who are fed up with the FTA coders for not giving credit where it belongs...Blacklist himself is really no big deal!...more of a status symbol, than anything...

what is a big deal, is that this sends a strong message to the FTA community, sites, coders, and admins/mods...but thats very small in the scope of world news!

szot
02-20-2008, 11:28 AM
LMAO...this is better than SNL...

The old "to tell the truth" TV show....LOL....will the real BL please stand up!


Hey newbie BL...BL is not that important, he is not the shrine that you think he is....this has to be the biggest public relations marketing ploy..Pansat will stoop to any level to stay in the spotlight, since TBL coders have been useless the past year or so..

Personally I don't care if he busted or not...with or without him, Pansat and TBL sucks anyways...but I will miss his entertaining "Press announcements" or revelations......and all the Koolaid drinker's replies......the "new" BL above , smells like TDG to me or someone have a better time at this than me...this is a riot!..LOL

Mr Kim talking to BL...."hey I got an idea, our product and U suck and everybody knows it, so lets throw attention elsewhere...and bust ya"....and my #1 daughter look for new man"...lmao

test
02-20-2008, 11:42 AM
now really why would blacklist come here and post.. lol .. he barely even posts on his own site. get real...

Imars99
02-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Blacklist is not one person,its team thar support Pansat and other brands.

watchit
02-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Mr BL must have taken a crash course in English LOL... anyone who goes back and sees previous posts where IRC chat is pasted can surely tell just how the real BL writes....

Imars99
02-20-2008, 12:34 PM
To All Site Owners!
To all other sites owners!!!!!
ALL stop the rumor no arrests ever happened!!!!!
NO sites understands how bad it is to make rumor like that.
IF feds take this seriouse, everyone whos linked in this community will have to reided!! I will warn again everyone, but wont repeat! Everyone plays danger game without knowing it!!!!
TO all site owners
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REMOVE Blacklist busted all the opened threads!!! Always welcome to put the thread if you have actual files! But Stop playing danger game in a FTA Community!!!
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post in couple sites already!
Asked to remove that bullshit thread!!!!!
But dont know what will be their respond!
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Nice Game by the way!
My turn
Regards,
Blacklist Latest update on Future FTA By Blacklist.

Imars99
02-20-2008, 12:41 PM
This thread should be closed now.

dman54
02-20-2008, 01:00 PM
thats rumor and thats not true blacklist has not arrested at all and dont intend to either that came from blacklist himself and said these could hurt them so No More Rumors.

lewis1018
02-20-2008, 01:08 PM
Why should BL put out new fix when you have older ones working?

dmantom
02-20-2008, 01:12 PM
And on that note thread closed.