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blackdawg_2000
02-18-2008, 12:35 PM
Bev is to start a card swap in March starting with the 4100 and 6100 receivers first and the rest to follow.

olliec
02-18-2008, 12:47 PM
Charlie it is then!! US testing is better anyway. :-P Im just messing with you canucks, I got 2 brothers up there so dont get offended.

dpegle
02-18-2008, 01:10 PM
boy i hope this is just a rumor i just got bev hooked up last month so i have them both. it has worked real well when one is down the other seems to stay up. just my luck oh well if it is true it will come back some time

musky
02-18-2008, 01:29 PM
bev 4100 recievers dont use cards.

rob180sx
02-18-2008, 01:33 PM
i have a 4100 and 6100 with no cards....does this mean they will be implemeting cards into the unused card slot?

dish_man_ca
02-18-2008, 01:34 PM
bev 4100 recievers dont use cards.

ah yes but they do have a card slot which can be enabled by the provider :)

keith1612
02-18-2008, 08:10 PM
last i heard they were enabling the card slots on bell ird's.

0utcast
02-19-2008, 04:19 AM
well was doing some reading and thought this might be of value.

copy and paste below:

Here is some info on bev card swap c/p from IDD

Effective date Immediately

Description This year Bell ExpressVu will be upgrading select receivers with a new version of the Conditional Access (CA) SmartCard.
Store Impacts:

ExpressVu would like stores to focus on selling rather than swapping cards. Therefore, all swapping will be done either at the supply chain end of the business or at the client level.
Store inventory of receivers with the current card/software will continue to function for several months so stores can continue to sell these. Once these receivers are activated on a client account ExpressVu will send out a new card along with instructions on how to activate their replacement card. Client will be given the option of self activation via the web or by calling the activation centre.

Important

Stores should begin to exercise ‘first in, first out’ inventory practices so that as they receive new shipments of receivers with the new CA they will put these aside and sell their current inventory first. This will make the swap faster and more efficient for the client and retailer.

In order to assist retailers in identifying which units have the new CA, ExpressVu will ship these out with a sticker affixed in proximity to the serial number / UPC label. This sticker will be orange in colour and bear the ‘iTV’ logo as seen below:



The table below outlines the receivers models impacted and dates the receivers are being shipped with a new CA SmartCard

Receiver Model Being shipping with new CA Smart Card
4100 / 4120 March
5900/5920 February

Notes:
• The receiver models 6141 and 9242 already come equipped with the new CA smart card.
• All other models will be done at client level (i.e. 6120R, 9200, 3100, 5200 and etc.)
• 2-TV bundles will only be stickered if both units within the kit contain the new CA.

Client Impacts:

Beginning April 15, 2008, Bell clients that require this upgrade will receive a letter, a new CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap the SmrtCard.

Client positioning • ExpressVu will be upgrading the software in your receiver(s), which will require you to install and activate a new SmartCard. Installing new SmartCards will ensure that you continue to receive programming and prepare you for future service enhancements to ExpressVu™ digital TV from Bell.

Process • All impacted clients will receive a letter in the mail with the new upgraded CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap their cards.

Question and Answer Q1: What happens when current software no longer functions?
A1: Any client with the current CA SmartCard will have been swapped well in advance of the termination date of the current software. Stores will be advised several weeks in advance of this software termination date. This will offer the opportunity for stores to inspect their on hand inventory for any units not bearing the sticker so that they can focus on selling these.


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the interesting copy and paste:


A little more info here....read on and take note...

The card is rumored to be the ROM240 and will NOT be st19 processor based, so no current technology we have now will be useful against this card. IMO, this will not be like the time period that we had to wait for the N1 to N2, but I have no doubt that, like its predecessors, it will eventually be compromised.

The ROM206 is already dumped, which is probably why the providers had to go to NagraVision for something newer for an impending swap. NagraVision, BTW, just acquired a chip fabrication facility which is even more worrisome, they can now do their own proprietary hardware and code.


From what I have read, the SW (S0x) cards scan the eeprom on boot up. If any modifications are detected then the card does not boot. Doesnt sound promising at all heh. Can only imagine what the Rom 240 has in store


also.......


Kudelski Group to acquire EmbedICs
February 8, 2008


By Robert Briel

The Kudelski Group today announced an agreement to acquire EmbedICs, Inc., a US-based embedded software, cryptography and fabless semiconductor design firm delivering security solutions for the Digital TV market. EmbedICs has successfully developed customized security solutions for several Fortune 500 companies. Recent projects included the development of: system level requirements definition, secure ASICs and embedded firmware design, continuously available secure database services and critical personalization and manufacturing infrastructure to support a US-wide security initiative. The parties anticipate that the acquisition will close in the next 30 days.
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could all be horseshit but im sure like stated above wont last.

tycoonca2002
02-19-2008, 05:51 AM
i hope that doesn't happen i hope its only a rumor and stays that way

alcoholic365
02-19-2008, 11:55 AM
rumor came true last time didnt it???

dei
02-20-2008, 07:33 AM
Card swap is legit and coming. Rescan your BEV channels you will see a newly added channel i believe from memory it is 263. Card swap info channel....

So yes it is coming...

Dunner
02-21-2008, 04:58 PM
Well, I just received my new cards in the mail today for my BEV sub. :thmbdn: Looks like this is happening. Sort of ironic, just got the new cards, came in turned on my viewsat and BEV was black!!! DN was still up.

2bseen2
02-21-2008, 05:23 PM
well was doing some reading and thought this might be of value.

copy and paste below:

Here is some info on bev card swap c/p from IDD

Effective date Immediately

Description This year Bell ExpressVu will be upgrading select receivers with a new version of the Conditional Access (CA) SmartCard.
Store Impacts:

ExpressVu would like stores to focus on selling rather than swapping cards. Therefore, all swapping will be done either at the supply chain end of the business or at the client level.
Store inventory of receivers with the current card/software will continue to function for several months so stores can continue to sell these. Once these receivers are activated on a client account ExpressVu will send out a new card along with instructions on how to activate their replacement card. Client will be given the option of self activation via the web or by calling the activation centre.

Important

Stores should begin to exercise ‘first in, first out’ inventory practices so that as they receive new shipments of receivers with the new CA they will put these aside and sell their current inventory first. This will make the swap faster and more efficient for the client and retailer.

In order to assist retailers in identifying which units have the new CA, ExpressVu will ship these out with a sticker affixed in proximity to the serial number / UPC label. This sticker will be orange in colour and bear the ‘iTV’ logo as seen below:



The table below outlines the receivers models impacted and dates the receivers are being shipped with a new CA SmartCard

Receiver Model Being shipping with new CA Smart Card
4100 / 4120 March
5900/5920 February

Notes:
• The receiver models 6141 and 9242 already come equipped with the new CA smart card.
• All other models will be done at client level (i.e. 6120R, 9200, 3100, 5200 and etc.)
• 2-TV bundles will only be stickered if both units within the kit contain the new CA.

Client Impacts:

Beginning April 15, 2008, Bell clients that require this upgrade will receive a letter, a new CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap the SmrtCard.

Client positioning • ExpressVu will be upgrading the software in your receiver(s), which will require you to install and activate a new SmartCard. Installing new SmartCards will ensure that you continue to receive programming and prepare you for future service enhancements to ExpressVu™ digital TV from Bell.

Process • All impacted clients will receive a letter in the mail with the new upgraded CA SmartCard and instructions on how to swap their cards.

Question and Answer Q1: What happens when current software no longer functions?
A1: Any client with the current CA SmartCard will have been swapped well in advance of the termination date of the current software. Stores will be advised several weeks in advance of this software termination date. This will offer the opportunity for stores to inspect their on hand inventory for any units not bearing the sticker so that they can focus on selling these.


-----------------------------
the interesting copy and paste:


A little more info here....read on and take note...

The card is rumored to be the ROM240 and will NOT be st19 processor based, so no current technology we have now will be useful against this card. IMO, this will not be like the time period that we had to wait for the N1 to N2, but I have no doubt that, like its predecessors, it will eventually be compromised.

The ROM206 is already dumped, which is probably why the providers had to go to NagraVision for something newer for an impending swap. NagraVision, BTW, just acquired a chip fabrication facility which is even more worrisome, they can now do their own proprietary hardware and code.


From what I have read, the SW (S0x) cards scan the eeprom on boot up. If any modifications are detected then the card does not boot. Doesnt sound promising at all heh. Can only imagine what the Rom 240 has in store


also.......


Kudelski Group to acquire EmbedICs
February 8, 2008


By Robert Briel

The Kudelski Group today announced an agreement to acquire EmbedICs, Inc., a US-based embedded software, cryptography and fabless semiconductor design firm delivering security solutions for the Digital TV market. EmbedICs has successfully developed customized security solutions for several Fortune 500 companies. Recent projects included the development of: system level requirements definition, secure ASICs and embedded firmware design, continuously available secure database services and critical personalization and manufacturing infrastructure to support a US-wide security initiative. The parties anticipate that the acquisition will close in the next 30 days.
__________________


could all be horseshit but im sure like stated above wont last.

what i have heard the reason that kudelski acquired the services of embedics inc is to secure the 206 which has been comprimised already.

ozzizgod
02-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Do you think that we will go back to making cards like before fta?

phpfaizan
02-22-2008, 02:25 AM
i doubt it IKS is the future of FTA and like right now nfusion i heard is working on a mpeg-4 format IKS reciever so we might be hearing a good news soon i guess from nfusion :D:thmbup:

blackdawg_2000
02-26-2008, 08:32 AM
Not a rumor just received new cards in the mail yesterday was told a massive mailing campain is underway all to be swaped with in a max of 6 months

superbrad
02-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Just my prediction... and my opinion so please don't bash over it..... but I predict that IKS will have a stop put to it quickly...... servers will be traced, court orders issued..... there is no true free to air purpose for an IKS setup so good luck to nfusion trying to prove their box was designed for legal purposes.....

dmantom
02-26-2008, 09:35 AM
That may have a ring of truth to it.

agw28
02-26-2008, 09:50 AM
If you want to record over the network and use the PVR function, you will need the RJ-45 connection on the box.

So if the factory software does not come with IKS, they may be ok? Just my thoughts

superbrad
02-26-2008, 09:52 AM
Still doesn't justify the existence of the server....... Nfusion does have bin file standalone capability too at least.....

mike1975
02-26-2008, 11:47 AM
does a card swap mean my ariza 700 will not be any good anymore?

Thill-1951
02-27-2008, 12:09 AM
does a card swap mean my ariza 700 will not be any good anymore?

Do U want us to answer this question?
(a)-Yes
(b)-No
(c)-Maybe
(d)-None of the answers
(please put a x in the right answer):idea::o:eek::lol::evil:

evets990
02-27-2008, 12:10 AM
doesn't card swap cost them a fortune????

ruff_ryder_20
02-27-2008, 02:06 AM
Neighbor also just received new cards, and yeah if you watch the swap channel it says some receivers might not even have a card in it but you are required to insert it anyways.

Will this really effect anyone at all, won't the coders just end up making a new bin anyways?

superbrad
02-27-2008, 09:46 AM
It will take a while to get the card cracked and write new bin file but they will get it done... I have faith

JOE JOE1E
02-27-2008, 01:23 PM
some were i saw the other was going to do same-about 2 months ago when i saw this--
is this a hand in hand thing:or maybe it was a bad dream

evets990
02-28-2008, 10:14 PM
what dates to dn and bev have for completing the card swap?

ruff_ryder_20
02-28-2008, 10:52 PM
Really couldn't say but I would think minimum 6-8 months, and that is a maybe, there is a lot of customers that are gonna have to swap cards. I know I got cards in the mail a few years ago when they did a swap and I never put them in till the last possible minute literally, the 5900 went down so I then replaced the card and that was a good half a year at least.

lewis1018
02-28-2008, 10:53 PM
What effect b3v card swap will have on FTA.

ruff_ryder_20
02-28-2008, 11:07 PM
The card swap will have no effect on FTA, however receiving bev that is different, it will take some time for the coders to get it all worked out, but they will figure it out. We just might see somewhat of a prolonged downtime thats all :)

lewis1018
02-28-2008, 11:23 PM
I believe that the sales of FTA boxes will be increased after a card swap by the providers.