C/P

Well Guys Nfusion does it again they prove to the world that they are here to stay and Not Even nagra3 is going to stop Them

There latest Release T1 is the first Nagra3 Bin .. To fix the issue with B3V .. There will be more to come from the Nfusion Team We can count on that

Way to go Nfusion #1

Channels for now are back up with this bin

050 DVEpg
052 CBCDv
053 CTVDv
054 DvCTV
055 GLBDv
056 DVGlb
057 CTYDv
058 DvCTY
059 E!DV
060 DvE!
061 MCTV
062 CTV-w
063 CBC-W
065 Vision
066 BARDv
067 VICdv
068 GLSDv
069 GLCDv
070 CTMDv
072 OTTDv
074 PBSDv
075 DvPBS
076 CTV-c
077 CTV-e
078 GLB-w
080 WEA*
081 MET*
082 TREDv
083 HGTDv
084 HSTDv
085 TTeDv
086 TTwDv
087 TTfDv
088 COMDv
089 DVCOM
090 SPCDv
091 TRPDv
092 WeDVI
101 TVA-R
102 TQSRL
103 TVARL
104 TQSSa
105 TVASa
106 TQSSh
107 TVASh
108 SRCSh
109 TQS-Q
112 SRC-M
114 TQS-M
115 TVA-M
116 TVARN
118 SRC-W
120 SRC-V
121 TVA-O
124 RIS
125 MET-I
126 RDI
127 LCN
129 CAN-D
130 METEO
131 CAN-Z
132 SERIE
133 CAN-H
134 CAN-E
135 CAN-V
137 TFO
138 TELEQ
139 TOONF
140 VRAK
141 MSQPL
142 MUSMX
143 ARTV
145 TV5
152 CAN-S
154 IDMTV
159 VU-F
184 ALRT
187 ADR
198 XPRS2
202 ASN
203 CBC-H
204 GLB-H
205 CTV-M
206 CBC-M
210 CBC-T
211 GLB-T
212 CTV-T
213 SUNTV
214 CITYT
215 OMNI1
216 OMNI2
217 CHEX
218 E!ONT
219 A-BAR
220 A-LON
221 MCTV
225 CTV-W
226 CBC-W
227 GLB-W
228 CITY-W
229 ONHD
230 XPRS
232 XPRS*
235 CTV-R
236 GLB-S
237 CTV-L
238 CBC-L
239 CTV-E
240 GLB-E
241 CITYE
243 CTV-C
244 GLB-C
245 CBC-C
246 CITYC
250 CTV-V
251 CBC-V
252 GLB-V
253 CITYV
255 E!BC
256 A-VIC
258 CBCDC
259 CFJC
261 VISION
263 SWAP
264 SWAP*
265 TVO
266 SCN
267 ACCES
268 KNOW
269 APTN
270 APTNn
275 ITV
282 CBS-E
284 PBS-E
289 CBS-W
291 PBS-W
294 PEACH
295 WGN
296 WSBK
297 CW11
298 KTLA
308 MC1
309 MC2
310 MC3
311 EA1
312 EA2
323 MOVE
330 IFC
331 MVOLA
332 SCRM
333 DRVin
334 ACTN
335 DIVA
336 DOCU
399 EVNTS
400 TSN
401 TSN2
405 SNETO
406 SNETE
407 SNETP
408 SNETW
409 ESPNNc
410 SCORE
411 OLN
412 FOXSP
415 RAPTR
416 GOLF
417 SPEED
421 WFN
422 LEAFS
424 NHLVu
448 NFL-N
500 CNN
501 CTVNN
502 CBCNW
503 CP24
504 BNN
505 WEA
506 WEA-I
507 FOX-NC
508 HNN
509 CNBC
510 BBCWN
512 CPAC
515 TECH
521 TLC
522 HIST
523 CVIL
524 GEO
527 TRAVEL
528 COURT
529 BOOK
549 PHDIS
551 YTV-E
552 YTV-W
553 TREE
554 TOONE
555 TOONW
556 FMLY
557 FAN-W
562 BABYe
563 BABYf
564 BABYs
569 BFVSC
570 MUCH
571 MMM
576 BET
581 MTV
600 HGTV
601 SLICE
603 FOOD
604 HLTH
605 FTV
606 ONE
607 FINEL
608 COSMO
609 OUTTV
615 A&E
616 SHO-E
617 SHO-W
618 TROP
619 TROP-W
620 BRAVO
621 STAR
622 BIO
625 CMDY
626 CMDYW
627 SPACE
628 SPIKE
629 MENTV
630 MTIME
635 BBC-C
636 DEJA
637 TVLND
639 GAME
651 CTS
652 MIRCL
745 SEXTV
746 BLUVU
748 VUBUY
749 VENUS
760 VNS10
783 VNUS*
950 VOAR
951 OZ-FM
952 CBC1H
953 CJAD
954 Q107
955 EDGE
956 CBC1T
957 CBC2T
958 680AM
959 FAN
960 CJRT
961 POWER
962 WRN
963 96FM
965 NPR
966 NPR*
967 VPRNT
968 105FM
969 CBC1V
970 CBC2V
971 RFI
972 WAHSA
973 CKAC
974 CJPX
975 CC-M
976 PC-M
977 PC-V
980 RIGA
981 DESJA
982 METRO
986 HERZ
990 AM640
991 1200
992 960AM
993 CHED
999 DRM

I think most of those channels were already there with 1.48.3 bin.

they definatly are providing a semi fix.
its still as far as i can see a clone of a legit cam (not trying to slam it as its more than anyone else has) and has yet to be proven to work when n3 goes 100%.
ive read different opinions on this and its gonna be real interesting.

edit: and i have lots of those on my coolsat right now also

Are this the good news we been waiting for? or just the beginning?

i think its a band aid at this point.
i can see a bunch of guys running out and ordering iks setups prematurly.
untill tv is on its last days i wouldnt rush out and spend money.

just wondering i thought i readthis some where isnt it just a card sharing trick or iks or a private card sub or somthing like that im not exactly sure but i no for a fact no one that i know of has or is even close to a n3 hack but yes nfusion is most likely to be on top of all i have both with the hd and ive never been happy with others as much as these next to vs , but this is just my two cents i hope that u wasnt referring to a n3 fix or hack coz i didnt here about it yet unless some one knows more then please inform me and correct me if im wrong

yes its card sharing and not a hack from a dumped n3

thank u for the quick reply

It is still a step in the right direction, I expect that the other major players will also have solution for N3 soon...

obviously its nice to see the packages that you can get from a subbed card but unless you see the ppv, venus, RCvu ... anything that you actually have to order, its still only going to be card sharing and hopefully eventually we see the hackers get into the rom240, but for now congrats to nfusion for getting the ball rolling in the right direction

C/P

Well Guys Nfusion does it again they prove to the world that they are here to stay and Not Even nagra3 is going to stop Them

There latest Release T1 is the first Nagra3 Bin .. To fix the issue with B3V .. There will be more to come from the Nfusion Team We can count on that

Way to go Nfusion #1

Channels for now are back up with this bin



those are the same channels my cnx is still getting on bev except for 4 channels whats that all about. for now anyways i just went through all of them

check this link,
http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=63257

well i think any positive work from any form of hack is a good thing it has to be a positive that they can clone the sub card it might just help the coders see how things are progressing with n3

your list makes more sense RC , thanks for the info

I still get 188 channels with my ultra which 90% of the channels posted are the same

It is definatly a step in the wright direction and Im hoping will get the rest of the coders moving just a little faster towards a fix.
Way to go Nfusion

I gotta say im thrilled too. I own both a Nuvenio SD and Nuvenio HD models. so far its worth every penny

It'a alot better than what I had yesterday,keep on going the Pyrotwins.

anything is better than nothing! :)

If the nFusion coders are using a shared sub card to provide the N3 channels, why aren't we getting more locals in the 200-250 channel range that have switched over? These come with even the most basic B3V package. If they're using a sub, these channels MUST be included in that sub. So shouldn't we get them as well?

i beleave they will add more channels either way soon.my guess is the t1 stands for test1.

will n3 affect globecast?

This is the part that I don't get though, there is one Venus channel that is unlocked, 2 if you count the preview, granted the one it unlocked is the worst of the bunch, but it's still a venus right?

hi, but the channel list that you have is the same i got with my cw700, i checked out one by one and are the same, the ppvs, movie premium channels , and all east local channels and some other network are blackouts.so i dont believe nfusion already recieves n3

This is the part that I don't get though, there is one Venus channel that is unlocked, 2 if you count the preview, granted the one it unlocked is the worst of the bunch, but it's still a venus right?
Check the n2 list.
Those channels are not n3 encryption yet.
Nfusion didn't unlock them..
That is b3v's sense of humor, not nFusion's...lol

correct list --> http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=63257

Check the n2 list.
Those channels are not n3 encryption yet.
Nfusion didn't unlock them..
That is b3v's sense of humor, not nFusion's...lol

correct list --> http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=63257

Thanks for the correction, thats just.... funny? heh, not too sure what the word would be,

a little tv is alway's better then watching a black screen at least that is what i think! I am very happy with my new nuvenio hd it truly is an amaazing unit!! Also i still love my cnx trio since it has been very reliable up to this point. But i must say if n fusion has a solution for n3 or card sharing more power to them. Happy testing everyone...

during n1 to n2 the gay porn channel was left as a sense of humor from bev also.lol
but in turn came back to bite them in the ass.

Glad to see we can keep a sense of humour through this.:o

during n1 to n2 the gay porn channel was left as a sense of humor from bev also.lol
but in turn came back to bite them in the ass.

Hmmm... I'm not sure if thats a odd gay porn pun, or if I just have a really dirty mind

Back to the original topic......No one has a fix for N3 yet, including nfusion but the way I see it, they are the first to offer a temporary fix using a cloned sub source during the black out period.......So I say kudo's for nfuison for at least trying other options to keep their customers happy:thmbup::clap:

Been FTAing before it was called that.

Got the NOVA last winter and until they started remapping the channels for N3, the only time I knew an ECM had hit was to read about it on the rare visit to the forums. I like the quality and menu of my old box but this one has been the most reliable.

I figure just a matter of a very short time and it will be a full blown N3 kill

Testing Fortec, CS5K, nFusion Nova

No use whining, might as well watch TV :cool:

Not sure what more nfusion has to prove?

The full solution will be activated in a few weeks.

Can anyone else do the following?

Any N3 channels?
NFL Ticket Sunday?

Answer = NO
Only nFusion/Nuvenio

Why???

I keep hearing everyone saying that it is so easy for nfusion to do what they do yet no other receiver can do any N3 channel?

Ask yourself why the other IKS box can't do it before you start to disrespect nfusion as they should have the highest respect in this business at the moment.

For those that own an nfusion, you can tell everyone what you got while everyone else is watching a black screen or going on there roof to move there dish which is only a temp fix as Dik will soon follow.

also, this is not a temp fix but rather the start to the full solution.

It take time to do everything correct.

Not going to say how they did it but it does not matter,

For 1.5 year, nfusion has proven themselves everyday.

We will see what everyone will be buying for Christmas.

As promised, N3 is no major problem for nfusion,
It is not easy, never said it was but you will get your PPV and PORN in the next few weeks!

Digital

true enough well said.

when the nfusion group can show everyone the ppv/porn wide open then people will scratch there head to as how if its a subbed iks.until then people are going to call it a subbed work around.
so hope they do show the ppv/porn wide open,,,,,,,,,then what people say.

I think we should all wait to see what will happen. All groups is workig real hard on N3 because they want to be the first to be able to put their products back on the market again, because, as it is now there sales are really slow. I think it's a race between them to see who's will be getting it first.:|> That's my opinion !!!!!:thmbup:

I still get 188 channels with my ultra which 90% of the channels posted are the same
For those Canucks that want to watch the football playoffs tomorrow, you will watch via NFusion or a sub.

Back to the original topic......No one has a fix for N3 yet, including nfusion but the way I see it, they are the first to offer a temporary fix using a cloned sub source during the black out period.......So I say kudo's for nfuison for at least trying other options to keep their customers happy:thmbup::clap:

That is absolutely correct!
All they need to do now is pay for a wide open sub and send it out via card sharing!
Then they should have porn and ppv and whatever else they pay for, to support their sales.
Nothing at all wrong with that.
I don't know why folks are so ashamed and defensive about using card sharing, if it gets them N3 TV.:)
After all, if it's not a card sharing patch, Then prove everyone wrong, just pull the RJ-45 plug out of the back of the box and tell us all about the channels that you're watching.
I really don't think it will work with out a direct connection to the Internet, I think if the folks on the other end of your connection suddenly disappear, your TV will go with it.
Most people consider a stand alone solution a TRUE fix.

when the nfusion group can show everyone the ppv/porn wide open then people will scratch there head to as how if its a subbed iks.until then people are going to call it a subbed work around.
so hope they do show the ppv/porn wide open,,,,,,,,,then what people say.

I Think what they will really say is......................
"What took them so long to figure out how to buy a full sub card and plug it into the master":)

That is absolutely correct!
All they need to do now is pay for a wide open sub and send it out via card sharing!
Then they should have porn and ppv and whatever else they pay for, to support their sales.
Nothing at all wrong with that.
I don't know why folks are so ashamed and defensive about using card sharing, if it gets them N3 TV.:)
After all, if it's not a card sharing patch, Then prove everyone wrong, just pull the RJ-45 plug out of the back of the box and tell us all about the channels that you're watching.
I really don't think it will work with out a direct connection to the Internet, I think if the folks on the other end of your connection suddenly disappear, your TV will go with it.
Most people consider a stand alone solution a TRUE fix.

oh come on not fair. n3 is brand spanking new here in the states. Europe has had it for years and its still not hacked, Nfusion is doing the same thing dreambox is, cardsharing. i know its not a dump but this is how hacks always started. First cardsharing, dump, hacked cards, fta. Many people here say they are loyal to this box and loyal to that box, just like people that were loyal to cs? if no fixes come within 2 months after the nag3 switch believe me people we'll be flocking to the box that has a "semi" solution as some have called it here.

once ppv and porn ar online there will not be any question. You cant get those on cardshaing.

Belive or not they are doing what they promised.

That is absolutely correct!
All they need to do now is pay for a wide open sub and send it out via card sharing!
Then they should have porn and ppv and whatever else they pay for, to support their sales.
Nothing at all wrong with that.
I don't know why folks are so ashamed and defensive about using card sharing, if it gets them N3 TV.:)
After all, if it's not a card sharing patch, Then prove everyone wrong, just pull the RJ-45 plug out of the back of the box and tell us all about the channels that you're watching.
I really don't think it will work with out a direct connection to the Internet, I think if the folks on the other end of your connection suddenly disappear, your TV will go with it.
Most people consider a stand alone solution a TRUE fix.

Even if the nFusion team pays for a "wide open sub", this WON'T get us porn or PPV back. The programs on those channels have to be purchased individually (hence pay-per-view). With this method the best we can hope for is open TV minus PPV stations.

It seems to me that DTV has a "wide open" sub that gets EVERYTHING all the time, but the cost is something like $10,000 per year!! B3V or DN does not have such a subscription.

IKS is not good for FTA and sat hacking............it will just accelerate laws to kill all forms of sat testing, jmho. Great for free TV'ers but not for other testers.

Even if the nFusion team pays for a "wide open sub", this WON'T get us porn or PPV back. The programs on those channels have to be purchased individually (hence pay-per-view). With this method the best we can hope for is open TV minus PPV stations.

It seems to me that DTV has a "wide open" sub that gets EVERYTHING all the time, but the cost is something like $10,000 per year!! B3V or DN does not have such a subscription.

wthf thats alot a money... better get legit sub.

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital

Nfusion #1

i would be willing to give up porn and ppv for a while if the card sharing went to DN when they make the switch and all the HD stuff would be there. If i could find this out for sure (which I cant) i would have a nfusion HD on the way right now hehe

i got a computer for porn and i got bittorent for PPVs ;)

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital

The Group needs a way to pay for the subs and servers so you can get TV. in Europe you pay for yearly access to a card sharing server with a receiver that they have been using for years (no new receiver cost). nfusion route to offer servers free but are making their many in sells of new receivers (Nuvenio SD/HD) now there is nothing wrong with that at all, actually i prefer the route nfusion takes bcuz that means i can test new features. On the other hand in europe there is more then one group with servers so if anything happens to the big servers you can always have a backup.

*Update* i know that the nova that has been out for years is also supported but im just saying that the new receivers are making the dough to pay for the future.

It is still a step in the right direction, I expect that the other major players will also have solution for N3 soon...


Yuppp I dont care how they do it.. Long as they do it...

Then when VS and SV and others are working.. I expect people to go back to them

but they are impressive.

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital

QUOTE: "Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?"
You're treading on thin ice here with four posts and rep points dropping I don't think you are in a position to question how the mods here became mod's, I don't think that is something you will have to worry about for awhile.
As always everybody has a right to an opinion but to openly disrespect(some call it bashing or flaming) a mod who holds that position for a reason will quickly make you unpopular among the other members.
I hope you can express yourself without trying to put down others.
Good Luck.

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital



the mod's here do all they can to keep TV working and to talk them down is wrong if in fact you know all you say then put it here for all to share

nice post tommi

so this will work on the SD as well as their HD STB i would imagine?

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital

I am not sure what you mean by this statement "Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?" I would like some clearification and your defination of a Mod. please.

I have a question about all of this- If nfusion is using a subbed card to share N3, then why is it only some channels are back open? I know bev programming and if you order the movie channels, you get them all. Same with sports, so why only TSN and some movie channels? Why aren't all of them available?

Soo if I get an Nfusion box, I'll get the channels back? and I dont have to switch my dish around?

Soo if I get an Nfusion box, I'll get the channels back? and I dont have to switch my dish around?

you only get the channels that are in the list at the beginning of this thread. and NO you do not have to re-aim your dish. just keep it pointed at bev and you're good to go

those channels plus what I already get on the viewsat? and how much do they cost?
thx for the anser dude give u some rep points.:D

just remember that nfusion is using a cardsharing system and who knows what will work when everything goes full blown n3.
spend your $$$ carefully as they may be going down the tube.
its all up in the air right now, personally i wouldnt spend money....just reaim dish and get whats available free.

Even if the nFusion team pays for a "wide open sub", this WON'T get us porn or PPV back. The programs on those channels have to be purchased individually (hence pay-per-view). With this method the best we can hope for is open TV minus PPV stations.

It seems to me that DTV has a "wide open" sub that gets EVERYTHING all the time, but the cost is something like $10,000 per year!! B3V or DN does not have such a subscription.

You are talking about the Titanum package that is no longer available

http://www.directv.com/titanium/index.html

It was $7500 per year and you could have 10 irds on it so 10 ppl share for $750 per year per receiver wide open.

I can only speculate 1 reason this was removed because of card sharing.

From the very limtied knowledge I have of how the IKS setup work this would give you 10 cards toward the 120 (I heard) you need for full IKS.

Archive for November, 2008


neusat ipro 2000 iks/pvr N3 progress report from v2neo
Friday 7 November 2008 @ 10:08 pm

neusat ipro 2000 iks/pvr N3 progress report from v2neo
v2neo, the First IKS master in NA is proving he’s got game, with some updated progress of having channels on N3 for the popular neusat(previously known as neosat) ipro 2k pvr dual supported (iks/cardless) system, with his announcement today that reads:

n3 update from v2neo
still working on IKS
not going same route as nfusion
working on true iks with ppv/venus
not just subbed cards
as of this week we did glitch in with partial dump
so iks shouldn’t be far away

I have a question about all of this- If nfusion is using a subbed card to share N3, then why is it only some channels are back open? I know bev programming and if you order the movie channels, you get them all. Same with sports, so why only TSN and some movie channels? Why aren't all of them available?

im not really sure how they throw their bins togeather to supply tiers.
maybe they have a bandwidth issue with cardsharing so they pick the tiers they feel are most important.
the coders rarely share much information and just provide what the feel like.
maybe someone more knowledgeable can pitch in on the answer.

Archive for November, 2008


neusat ipro 2000 iks/pvr N3 progress report from v2neo
Friday 7 November 2008 @ 10:08 pm

neusat ipro 2000 iks/pvr N3 progress report from v2neo
v2neo, the First IKS master in NA is proving he’s got game, with some updated progress of having channels on N3 for the popular neusat(previously known as neosat) ipro 2k pvr dual supported (iks/cardless) system, with his announcement today that reads:

n3 update from v2neo
still working on IKS
not going same route as nfusion
working on true iks with ppv/venus
not just subbed cards
as of this week we did glitch in with partial dump
so iks shouldn’t be far away

Archive for November, 2008


neusat ipro 2000 iks/pvr N3 progress report from v2neo
Friday 7 November 2008 @ 10:08 pm

neusat ipro 2000 iks/pvr N3 progress report from v2neo
v2neo, the First IKS master in NA is proving he’s got game, with some updated progress of having channels on N3 for the popular neusat(previously known as neosat) ipro 2k pvr dual supported (iks/cardless) system, with his announcement today that reads:

n3 update from v2neo
still working on IKS
not going same route as nfusion
working on true iks with ppv/venus
not just subbed cards
as of this week we did glitch in with partial dump
so iks shouldn’t be far away

thank you - thank you:|>

I will like to know if there is some more update info about this change any? thanks

You are talking about the Titanum package that is no longer available

http://www.directv.com/titanium/index.html

It was $7500 per year and you could have 10 irds on it so 10 ppl share for $750 per year per receiver wide open.

I can only speculate 1 reason this was removed because of card sharing.

From the very limtied knowledge I have of how the IKS setup work this would give you 10 cards toward the 120 (I heard) you need for full IKS.

$62.50/month per each user to be correct however you have to be "qualified" so whoever is the purchasing person better have some damn good credit and be pretty rich

QUOTE: "Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?"
You're treading on thin ice here with four posts and rep points dropping I don't think you are in a position to question how the mods here became mod's, I don't think that is something you will have to worry about for awhile.
As always everybody has a right to an opinion but to openly disrespect(some call it bashing or flaming) a mod who holds that position for a reason will quickly make you unpopular among the other members.
I hope you can express yourself without trying to put down others.
Good Luck.

Way to go there aairon, thanks for gettin there before me....blood was beginning to boil:mad:

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital

Respect for others here is fundamental on this site and has to be maintained always, remember, no one here gets paid to help the general public and membership and one of the few things that are necessary to be a member here in good standing to enjoy the benefits and fruits of everyone else's labor is RESPECT for the members and the staff that work very hard to keep things together here for all to enjoy, I think a public apology is in order here for redemption...thank you
Tony Rome

I am not sure what you mean by this statement "Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?" I would like some clearification and your defination of a Mod. please.

I'd like to offer something constructive here, both in terms of the overall usefullness of what I consider to be an informative thread in general on the N3 issue, and in more specific terms, about the potential for how easily the content of the recent post made by DigitalDigital might have come off to some as either abrasive, disrespectful or both, when it may not have been intended to be as such.

First, I'm glad I found/joined this site, and that I found this thread. I think I recognize several member names on this nice site from another well-knwn FTA site that's been down for a couple of weeks now, due to some kind of important maintenance/upgrade issue. So, it's good to see some familiar names/personalities here. I'm just an end-user/hobbyist, with no agenda (other than free tv, that is, lol!) and no axe to grind. I just enjoy reading and assisting others when I can, and, applying updates as little as possible, lol! (hence, I also own an NFusion Nova, in addition to an SV4K).

Second, I think I recognize the overall "tone" and conversational style of this poster from my experience on the aformentioned/referenced "other" well-known FTA site that's down right now.

If my experience reading posts/comments made by the poster in question in this thread is accurate, and if indeed this is the same person, then this poster is basicaly a pretty decent person, someone whose intentions are basically good, who can sometimes sound a bit abrasive in their tone, but who has also proven many times in the past 12+ months to be very, very accurate as to the content of his/her information.

Also, this poster, if indeed he/she is the same one from the other site, was a site sponsor on that site, which by extension/definition made him/her a FTA dealer, one who is/was an authorized NFusion Dealer. Now, before anyone gets too excited about the possibilitly that this poster is also a FTA dealer, please note that I am saying I "think" he/she is, based on my experience (a positive one in terms of reading his/her posts) on that other site where he/she is listed/kown as the member "Digital" and/or "DigitalFTA".

I can not nor am I attempting to speak for this individual, and I'm not suggesting anything negative or unseemly or improper about a poster who may also be either a site sponsor and/or an FTA dealer either, especially one who posts his/her opinion on this or any other site regarding the somewhat "touchy" subject of whether or not one brand of FTA box can/is/will be able to do N3 type stuff or not.

Rather, I just wanted to say that after reading and re-reading each post in this thread up until this one, combined with my "assumption" and/or "assertion" that this is the same poster from another well know FTA site, that he/she most likely meant no disrespect in his/her posts, but does appear to be perhaps a little bit annoyed at what he/she feels may be improper information being put forth on the subject of the current and near-future capabilities of the NFusion box(es) that he/she either has inside information about and/or which he/she might also happen to be a dealer/distributor for.

I've read many posts on a number of other "nice" sites that seem to automatically assume that if someone makes posts on a site, wherein he/she is also an FTA Dealer, that "they" must be doing so primarily to make/promote more sales of that particular box, and therefore can not be trusted to make posts that have the best interests of the consumer (members) in mind. I realize that some people (some FTA dealers included) do not necessarily operate with the best interest of the consumers/site members in mind, but I really don't think this poster (DigitalDigital) is posting his/her information for that purpose.

Perhaps his/her recent post(s) are flavored with a little too much exasperation and frustration, because he/she is trying to convey that he/she knows something that can/will be proven out in the weeks ahead, and he/she feels it's his/her responsibility (either philosophically or otherwise) to respond/counter what they perceive to be negative assertions about NFusions' current and near-future intentions and capabilities.
Some may say that in doing so this poster may have a conflict of interest because he/she may also be a FTA dealer. Ordinarily, I would tend to agree, because unfortunately, some individuals do have hidden and not-so-hidden agendas when they post on this and other forums. But because I think this is the same person on another well-known FTA site, and because of his/her track record on that site, I truly do not think his/her sole/primary purpose is to push NFusions sales up by posting reponses to what he/she feels may be inaccurate statements or theories being posted by speculative members. I'm not naive either, to think that in doing so sales for any brand of box will not go up as a consequence of "defensive" type posts, but again, I don't think that is the case here.

If, on the other hand, it is proven that I'm wrong as to this persons identity, their intentions and/or motivations, then I will offer my apologies to him/her and everyone else, and feel pretty foolish for semi-defending someone I've never met, nor purchased anything from, rather someone whom I have ony followed several threads elsewhere on the web where he/she has contributed to meaningful discussions regarding the NFusion brand of FTA boxes in the recent past. Perhaps in the case of his/her recent post on this forum, he/she took something on page 1 of this thread and other pages since, out of context...who knows. What I do know from the recent past is that if this is the same person referenced from another site, that kind of rudeness/insensitivity is not what he/she seems to be about when posting elsewhere on this subject.

And, finally, in the spirit of keeping things on topic, I have applied the v149t01 bin to my NF Nova, and it has been nice for the past couple of days to have a handful of the channels back on 91w that went the way of N3 recently. :D

jroops.....a very well thought out and written post, I commend you for taking the time and effort to try to see it all let us hope that you are correct....thank you
Tony Rome

jroops.....a very well thought out and written post, I commend you for taking the time and effort to try to see it all let us hope that you are correct....thank you
Tony Rome

Thanks Tony Rome!

I guess I felt compelled to appeal to a kinder, more gentler crowd, including the poster in question, to be open to the possibility that things might/could be different than how they came across.
Even though I'm new to this site, it seems like a cool place to hang out and converse with others.

Hey, it never hurts to inject some kindness, even in the midst of uncertainty! :thmbup:
Take care!

I also think that he just got off on the wrong foot, and hope that when the dust has settled that he will get along fine here.
I do believe you are spot on about many things in your post, esp the ID.
I thought very strongly that I recognized the poster and have to agree with 99% of what you stated.
I also VERY much thank the Mods for taking it easy, and not doing anything drastic:worship::worship:, Many sites that I have frequented would have dropped the hammer at the slightest negative statement about a mod.
Thanks for contributing.:thmbup:

i have seen digitaldigital around as well and know he is very knowledgable. he may not have meant harm in anything he said but the fact is he came in here as a new member and made a comment about MODS. now i am known by a few as well and can tell you that i am one of the most easy going MODS around, but even this statement would have me looking twice at it. i would personally have a mod send him a PM to either explain or apologize in this forum. just my thoughts on this.

just remember that nfusion is using a cardsharing system and who knows what will work when everything goes full blown n3.
spend your $$$ carefully as they may be going down the tube.
its all up in the air right now, personally i wouldnt spend money....just reaim dish and get whats available free.
There are alot of people being pretty negative about NFusion it seems. All the writers of posts similar to this one know all this as fact because??? I'm not sure anyone has actually stated any facts they can back-up or to this point i certainly have not read anything more than writers speculation. I do know that all Bev locals are on the same tier of subscription so if it was a card share I would think all locals would be back on yet they are not. The only facts I can say at this point is the NFusion is getting more Bev stations than my Coolsat or Viewsat and I certainly commend the coders for their efforts, whatever way they did it. More than I can say for others.

There are alot of people being pretty negative about NFusion it seems. All the writers of posts similar to this one know all this as fact because??? I'm not sure anyone has actually stated any facts they can back-up or to this point i certainly have not read anything more than writers speculation. I do know that all Bev locals are on the same tier of subscription so if it was a card share I would think all locals would be back on yet they are not. The only facts I can say at this point is the NFusion is getting more Bev stations than my Coolsat or Viewsat and I certainly commend the coders for their efforts, whatever way they did it. More than I can say for others.

All statements about the Nfusions "future/N3" Abilities are pure speculation on both sides.
I think that when folks verbally pound their chests and say mine is better then yours,
you're not watching TV but I am, etc...etc... simply is an invitation for negativity.
NOBODY has posted anything but guesses and that very clearly applies to both sides of this debate.
Until such time that someone is willing to post some evidence either way I think any reasonable person would deduce that it is just guessing at this point.
And I for one wouldn't buy a stb based on an ambiguous statement that it will do this or that next week, or next year!.

The How is not important.
As long as the people get free TV that is all that matters.
And the one who can succeed by giving the people what they want, will win big bucks !!
Amen.

Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?

Like I said many time, if you think Dreambox is the same, then let Dreambox open the N3 channels for everyone!

I know the technology is too advanced for 99% of you and that is not something to be ashamed at.

A lot of people do not know how a computer works inside yet use the computer everyday and have no issues and love it.

Back to basic and stop fooling yourself.

You do this for free TV

Does not matter how it works, just want free tv.

Wait 30 days and I bet many will get an nfusion.

It is so easy to do, ask the others why they can’t do it.

When computers first came out, I bet there were lots of people scaring everyone away and making many excuses.

Times have change and those that cannot keep up can just start a new business.

Digital


You should respect the mods here buddy.. They keep the site in check..

Help with files and help keep the site working....

I MOD at a forum.. Not FTA... but let me tell you its not easy.... I like it and its fun.. but

it can be a hard and you should respect the mods on any site.

shame what you said.

I can vaguely remember reading a thread from some well respected coders on the N2 card and the abilities that it had. They were actually discussing the SO2 and the new N3 and although nothing public was out on the SO2 they hinted that the SO2 was hacked and the problem with it was that the codespace was protected by way of checksums, so you could not edit it. So the theory goes that N3 is the same with even more goodies. Now I could be way out to lunch or bang on I only say this because IMO card sharing is gonna rule for quite some time an apparently nfusion is doing so. that still doesn't give anyone the right to slam a mod I will patiently wait to see if they can deliver PPV I hope they can but like I said I sit and wait and we shall see GOODLUCK!!

cheers

The How is not important.

Sorry, have to disagree. Some of us like to know very much, purely for educational purposes;)

ok.. I'm gonna jump in here with my two cents starting with:

"Not sure how some people call themselves a MOD?"

Everyone has their particular area of expertise and have, and do assist those who have less "know how". This gets noticed and those individuals are asked to 'moderate'. It certainly does not mean that they are experts in every field. It means they have knowledge, share information and help. Most Mods are extremely tolerant, mature and trustworthy.

To address the comment by digital digital, a person might reflect that ummm...there is a way to say things, and then there is a way to say things? On that note I would have to say I'm just gonna take that with a grain of salt.

jropps in post #68 (and I have read the entire thread thusfar) has hit the nail squarely on the head.

Further information that I have received from an extremely reliable source unquestionably indicates that digitaldigital knows nfusions and has helped individuals with nfusion problems including those folks who did not have a warranty just because he wanted to...

Having said that, let me just add that, although his choice of words may not have been thought out and the fact that he may be a relatively new member we should wait and see what he brings to the table down the line.. From what I know to be reliable information, it would appear that this site may benefit and we should now just move on and see what happens. JMHO :)

.............indicates that digitaldigital knows nfusions and has helped individuals with nfusion problems including those folks who did not have a warranty just because he wanted to...

He has to, LOL, he is DigitalStore! Just a salesman wanting to sell his wares, but, doesn't gve him the right to be foking arrogant.

Like I said.. There is a way to say something and then there is a way to say something.. Let's see what happens in the future.. Not sure how strict other sites are.. but on this site, we err on the side of a little bit of "giving a person a second chance"? I think we have addressed the situation properly..

thats what we like about this forum dmantom.
its helpfull and not run with a iron fist.

thats what we like about this forum dmantom.
its helpfull and not run with a iron fist.

That's the way it should be:)

if the only thing that you are interested in is free tv, go buy an Nfusion.
But if you are interested in real "testing" and like to see the coders prove themselves to be smarter than the providers engineers time and time again, buy a receiver that depends on codes being posted. Me presonaly, I get more enjoyment out of playing cat and mouse than actually watching tv. It all boils down to what your hobby really is-Watching tv all of the time, or actually learning something.

He has to, LOL, he is DigitalStore! Just a salesman wanting to sell his wares, but, doesn't gve him the right to be foking arrogant. yes that he is! he is also a very big part of something else! and i sure would like to know his thoughts on it! maybe he might tell us about it.( wait him coming to be a member here now maybe thats how he is saying it lol) one more thing if u know this dealer and how he post on his missing home site then u would know that this is how he is about anything that is cross at his nf

First off, very sorry and I do apologize for disrespecting anyone here.

For those who know me knows that I really do appreciate the mods and always do my best to help them out.

Just got off on a wrong note.

Just a side note for those that think nfusion cannot do standalone,
Last year when they were doing it, they were first before anyone, and I am talking about days ahead of Viewsat, not just hours.

It’s true that there is no crack/hack for N3.

That is my point, and I know it’s possible but the way they have done it, they made it very secure and very hard to hack.

As for how nfusion works, will not say but it is not just card sharing as one of the mod claimed and that is why I got a little frustrated as just because it has a network jack does not mean it will work the same as a dreambox for example.

If it was, then every other IKS receiver would just order the package and share it for there users with no problem yet you do not see this.

When the PPV and Porn come back up, you will probably understand but nfusion has a special way they do things and it is flawless with no FREEZING and that is the key.

The others may and have attempted from day one to do what nfusion can do and yes, it looks very easy but ask yourself why the other “IKS” boxes has so many issues especially with Freezing when they do get anything going.

As always, will try to help out anyone with nfusion or any other box as I have lots to offer and I know my rep points will start to increase as I always state that forums are for information and we should all help each other when we can.

Hope to gain lots of friends here.

Also my real name should be Digital so trying to get that but this is not me on this forum yet in case someone else starts to post using that name.

Thanks for your time and what I would recommend is for all of you that like to speak negatively about any receiver brand to keep it to yourself as it is non constructive.

If you have positive to say, please feel from but receivers like Viewsat, Captiveworks and nFusion all have there place in this industry and may end up having to join forces in order to save themselves (you never know).

My advise is to use your common sense and let the actions of the receiver speak for themselves as every brand will claim anything at the moment to keep there sales going.

Digital

You're a big Man, Digital, for apologising............good for you.

If I may add, because IKS, the NFusion-way is so hush, hush and you keep saying it is diff with no explanations to shed any lights, people will speculate righly or wrongly. Of course you can't say much about it but please accept that speculations will abound absent of any real info from those in the know.

digital.....damantom said that you deserve a second chance and that you shall get, I'm sure that all accept your apology and welcome you as one of us, may your stay be pleasant and filling....help where you can.....
Tony Rome

digital.... at the bottom of ever page you will see Contact us. Use that and send a pm to n3xtgen requesting a nick change.

It is unfortunate that a one-liner seems to have put you in a bad light but like Fox News and CNN you will find this site to be fair and balanced.

Now let us get back to the topic of this thread and put this other minor item to rest..

Sorry for hijacking this thread:)

Not the oneliner that did that....preceded by the rep from "other places"

Nfusion and N3 I don't think so BEV down all most a week nothing work with n3 now

Nfusion and N3 I don't think so BEV down all most a week nothing work with n3 now

Some N3 channels are up on nfusion but only a few:thmbup:

http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=63257

are the HDs up on nFusion?

Not the oneliner that did that....preceded by the rep from "other places" yes that is right!!

one line! no i and and alot of members have had contac with him. and it is a one side with him. also why give a new nic thats his dealer name.he gots to find a new home! i ask him a few ?? did he ans. nope and users have a right to know about ther info and whats going on with a box that thay use everyday. and he knows so please tell us mr.nf dealer were did it go?what happen?and were and who did bin 149 come from? every one wants to know so if ur here to help then give up the info! also this is the rumors iam not bashing him. just want to know like the paid users that want to know i have had dealings with him in a dif.site and that is way i am asking him these ??s cause i know who his best friend is(BS)

sorry for 2 post i didnt think the first one went

EDIT RCHAMMER,
cops,
Did you not read the pm i sent you.
I mean it. There will be NO dirty laundry brought to this site. These are allagations that you bring are disrespectful and unwanted. This is ftabins, it is not any other ....Check your laundry at the door cops.
digital sees the atmospere here by now..
That's it next will be more than a warning
WARNING for you cops. DO NOT continue this path you are on!!!

ok... that's it.. Every new member deserves a fair shake and a fresh start. enough of this B.S. from another site... This thread is closed.. and don't start another one to carry this crap on to... cuz you won't like the results!