is anyone up on bev besides nfusion?

veb is down on all boxes

nfusion has most of bev channels back now

nfusion has most of bev channels back now

-How do U know that Nfusion got B3V channels back!!!!!
B3V is now N3 on all channels.

-If this is true then Nfusion must have a working hack for N3.
And if thats the case everyone would be going out and buying a
Nfusion receiver.

-I have being reading all over the fta web, and everyone is saying
no hack for N3!!!!!!!!!

-So please tell us all where you got your info from, or :zipped:

Nfusion also is known to card share which is a work around N3 but not a hack

NFUSION is using a payed card to feed the nfusion network & yes everyone should go out & get a nfusion box , not all channels are working , but a good portion are , screw n3 , remember its not free to air its nfusion air lol :=)

right on brother

so if 149.1 helps bev get more channels on n3 throught card sharring how can the same bin work on dn using n2 because i thought dn was hacked thanks

who knows but they both work

nfusion works based on iks key sharing so logically it should work as long as their iks system is able to figure out the current key, even if they can't make an algorithm that will match the key progression done by the n3 card. at least that is what i was raised to believe.

i was expecting this--don't understand why it was such a panic to get this working. what i don't understand why the other iks boxes are not working. to me it seems like they should all be working.

I agree with Pajamas, work together or work around N3 solutions for Free to Air.

the only boxes that will be up on bev anytime soon or right now are iks. if history repeats itself bev will not be up if ever until dn is down and they release a hack for it if ever. bottom line we do not know for sure if bev will EVER be back on fta that is the reality wether people want to believe it or not!

Hi guys,

Been going through the posts as I do on a daily basis and I keep coming across the same discussions popping up on more and more topics in diffrent fourms.

Why does NFusion have a crack for N3 but no one else? How come the others FTAs cannot crack the N3? Etc etc etc.

I am new to this so if I miss something here feel free to correct or add to it.

NFusion does not have a crack for N3 they are card sharing. They have not developed a working bin for N3. Because of the card sharing they are able to get some of the bev channels.

Other FTA boxes do not use card sharing and create the bin files that give us the channels. To date no known crack has been developed or released for N3 and this is included by NFusion.

As a new person to this I have not developed perferance to one way or another. For me it is what it is and now we wait. I am purposely leaving out the benefits of card sharing verses bins on propose because I want new people like myself to quickly realize the difference so every second topic does not drift off to this discussion.

If you have an NFusion box great enjoy your channels and we will see you when the crack is made and we catch up. If you have any other box there is no released crack for N3 and we will have to wait.

The time frame at this point is unknown. Guesses I have been reading about will be at least until dn switches over into the new year. However it is at this stage a guess. One may be released tomorrow and one may not be released for months after Dn switches over. It is a Guessing game at this point and the ones that know are holding their cards close to them.

While we are thirsting for knowledge and progress reports on N3 crack it may be in are best interest that we do not know. If we know the details then so does bev and Dn and this will give them a chance to counteract before a bin even get released. This knowledge we desire may prolong and not speed up the process of what we want to overcome.

Trust and faith and sit back and let the boys do what they do best and we will overcome this but it will take time. Good luck guys I know you will conquer this challenge.

Remember NFusion card sharing and no crack for n3 developed. Only some of the channels working. Other FTA boxes bin files that currently do not have a crack for n3.

Options:
1)Point dish a Dn and get them for awhile until they switch over to n3.

2)Buy an NFusion box and get some channels until a working bin is released for the other FTA boxes.

3) Sit back and watch cable until the guys overcome this latest challenge with n3 (this is what I am doing.)

Hopefully this will allow some reader especially new people like me to answer the difference quickly so every second topic does not drift off in this direction of “why is nfusion cracked but not the others. “ :yes:

The truth is no one knows for sure what nfusion did to get bev working.people assume it is just IKS but maybe they have figured out something more.I have seen it over and over again the naa sayers that dont like nfusion are the first to bash it:mad:

If N3 is never cracked, who cares there's nFusion. But the rest of the manufacturer better step up or else nFusion will take over this multi-billion dollar business.

Not too likely....still way too many that for one reason or another don't want to or can't use IKS....be it safety or lack of ability to stay connected to the internet 100% of the time for TV viewing....

Rest assured friends, even though a release for N3 will likely not take place until Charlie goes down, the coding teams are working hard on a N3 fix. Whether that be by hacking into it or by making deals with someone to purchase the encryption info just as what happened with N2.

Over the years, I am confident that coders abilities have grown moreso than that of the Nagravision encryption methods.

It is highly likely that N3 will be compromised in the future. The FTA world will be very interesting for the next 3-4 months.

Visit this excellent site often for updates!

nfusion has most of bev channels back now

Not true. Just 14 channels, most of which aren't worth the time to watch.

While they don't have "most" of them back, it seems they do have more than 14...check this thread....nova, nevenio SD & HD- N3 channels added (http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=63257)

Indeed, most of the locals are back and movie channels are comming back. We've got most of the movie channels (non-PPV) back, I was watching HBO just last night.

NHL and NFL channels are back as well. I'm just waiting for discovery then I'll be completely happy.

Rest assured friends, even though a release for N3 will likely not take place until Charlie goes down, the coding teams are working hard on a N3 fix. Whether that be by hacking into it or by making deals with someone to purchase the encryption info just as what happened with N2.

Over the years, I am confident that coders abilities have grown moreso than that of the Nagravision encryption methods.

It is highly likely that N3 will be compromised in the future. The FTA world will be very interesting for the next 3-4 months.

Visit this excellent site often for updates!

mefnikk....again you echo my sentiments exactly ....have confidence in the coders work....
Tony

Not true. Just 14 channels, most of which aren't worth the time to watch.,

not sure where you get your information at , thats completly false or oper. error

lot of channels are up on bev way more then 14 channels

honestly I'm not trying to start an argument but I don't have that many channels back, no movie channels basically nothing past the 200's and some of the 200's don't work, but I applaud the hard work the coders are doing keep up the good work!

c/p from kolovrat at f****lk (last part was 14 hrs ago)

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once upon a time, at the CCc, the membership was advised NOT to engage any IKS, highly dangerous. The CCc, had the best interests of the membership opposed to the Korean importers. But the CCc, has passed and now it is a free-for-all, buy now, pay now and wait, knock knock, we knows who's there, pay again.

Thats a risk any time you are sending out a signal from your location, Iks hand shake etc....
Some are willing to take it and some aren't.
It's definitely a personal decision.:)
Folks have been warned many times, and there are a lot of sources that will allow folks to come to their own conclusion.
I think that some folks would knowingly take an incredible risk at times to watch a big game or big fight or even Porn!:lol:.

Any idea when there will be a fix for BEV. Specifically Sonicview 1000. What exactly is N3 and will I have to do something different to my receiver ? If anyone can please give me any idea on what to expect I would appreciate it. Should I be looking around for some progamming alternatives ?

NOBODY KNOWS! it could be in five seconds (not likely) could be five weeks (very slim chance) could be five months (likely) and it could be never!.
If you read a little here you would find that out real quick.
Please;( Please;( read some!
Quote "Should I be looking around for some progamming alternatives ?"

Without a doubt! YES:yes:
Thank you for understanding.:)

aairon read the rules nothing in caps. but you are right read a little.

aairon read the rules nothing in caps. but you are right read a little.

I think YOU! need to read the rules.Quote:" nothing in caps" They don't say that.:lol::)

Rule #11 - Do not post using all capital letters, your post will be deleted. An example of this would be "DO NOT POST USING ALL CAPITALIZED LETTERS LIKE THIS".

Lmao!

LMAO exactly the rule is not "nothing in cap's" LMAO it is "Do not post using all capital letters":lol::lol::lol:

It would be funny though if you couldn't use any cap's.
He must have read the other post where I did! break the rule.

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approximately 50 channels available via IKS/S.U.N.S

hey wjw,
At ftabins we got a list here too.
I think you may find it is a little more accurate then the one you have there.
It was started one week ago, when bin 149 was first released.
It has been kept updated. Believe me this is true, i was up very late last night doing such things.
http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=63257
have a read, TISS GOOD.... :o i mean, ...tiss good.

Intresting read Rchammer, Any idea of what this "countdown" is? and I guess I missed phase 1. Is it going to explode like a bomb or take off like a rocket:lol: when it get's to zero?, and what time is it in the count down right now? like 10 minutes or ten hours?

Yes ITs True!!!....There are about 55 channels now available with "borowed' encoding from an existing chip, most are in the 200's including the afforementioned movie channels,HBO, a wide assortment of the networks (abc,ctv,city,nbc,etc.) and a few more movie channels including, of course the nfl and nhl nets (these haven't been proven in their entirity as of yet....and, yes, this does encompass about 25% of what is worthwhile to watch in any case; excluding time-shifting channels and duplicates....

Bravo Nfusion team....!

Yes ITs True!!!....There are about 55 channels now available with "borowed' encoding from an existing chip, most are in the 200's including the afforementioned movie channels,HBO, a wide assortment of the networks (abc,ctv,city,nbc,etc.) and a few more movie channels including, of course the nfl and nhl nets (these haven't been proven in their entirity as of yet....and, yes, this does encompass about 25% of what is worthwhile to watch in any case; excluding time-shifting channels and duplicates....

Bravo Nfusion team....!

LOL nice way of putting it:thmbup:

Thats a risk any time you are sending out a signal from your location, Iks hand shake etc....
Some are willing to take it and some aren't.
It's definitely a personal decision.:)
Folks have been warned many times, and there are a lot of sources that will allow folks to come to their own conclusion.
I think that some folks would knowingly take an incredible risk at times to watch a big game or big fight or even Porn!:lol:.

agreed the risk is great

This looks like a good place to ask, Does any of the Nfusion boxes have built in wireless network capability? How did you find the setup for this STB, Hard or Easy? I've got the hots for that HIGH DEF. model. Very nice looking machine.

This looks like a good place to ask, Does any of the Nfusion boxes have built in wireless network capability? How did you find the setup for this STB, Hard or Easy? I've got the hots for that HIGH DEF. model. Very nice looking machine.

I heard a rumour that you might get an answer in the fta receiver section :sly:

This looks like a good place to ask, Does any of the Nfusion boxes have built in wireless network capability? How did you find the setup for this STB, Hard or Easy? I've got the hots for that HIGH DEF. model. Very nice looking machine.

Back off eh.......she's my date FOREVER! :lol:

nfusion doesn't have a model with built in wireless yet, but it is very easy to setup. Here's a couple of links to read for ya, and many more in the "nfusion guides" section...... And yes, the HD model is simply awesome!

http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=21195
http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=65747

I heard a rumour that you might get an answer in the fta receiver section :sly:

LOL true dat

Fta is one of the best things the internet has created

Ive been watching different versions of "free" satellite if anyone can remember the first time went down very long second long so and and so forth i dont need to ramble on this WILL be no different it is a waiting game as said before in this list of posts if we new bev and charlie would know not good lets just happen watch the files site and one day boom N3 crack released just like that and bliss among the community

I know ppl that sold there systems at the rollover to N2 alot of ppl saying o fta is dead and all that other crap the truth of the matter is will there be down time of course there will be remember with anything free in life it is a wait try to minimize the complaints please ppl it is free after all the only way to bitc and ppl listen is to pay for something.

Truth of the matter this site is one of the best sites on the net the team that works on this site posting fixes for us the wonderful ppl that helped us when we were just newbs well as i stiill am fta will be around till we are wrinkly and stinky JUST BE PATIENT


ROCK ON TO THE PPL WORKING DILIGENTLY ON OUR NEW FIXES WE ALL GIVE U OUR PROPS WITHOUT YOUR HARD WORK THIS WOULD NEVER BE POSSIBLE :|>:|>:|>:|>

Heck! I'm already " wrinkly and stinky" What do I have to look forward to now?:lol:

agreed the risk is great

And it would be so much greater a risk than downloading a file (and exposing your addy) from this or any other site because???

And it would be so much greater a risk than downloading a file (and exposing your addy) from this or any other site because???

Very good point:thmbup:

And it would be so much greater a risk than downloading a file (and exposing your addy) from this or any other site because???

There several differences that have been argued, many times.
But here a couple that are bought up over and over.

Unlike downloading a file here you are not connected and downloading 24/7 and Very little data goes out.

The files that you download, themselves do not serve any immediate function, until you do something else very deliberate to them, like loading them into an stb which has NOTHING to do with the site or the source of the file.

However The constant data stream that is sending and receiving data into your home serves only one function, and that function is executed immediately and constantly while you are in the very process of the 24/7 data communications.
I think the potential legal implications would be obvious.

As I very clearly said before I think it is a very personal choice.
For many it is well worth it, and I respect everyones right to make their own choices.
If I had no other options, and wanted to watch certain channels badly, I am sure I would most likely be willing to take that risk myself, while attempting to minimize it as much as possible.:):thmbup:

I am amazed by the amount of misinformation posted on this site about IKS & possible card sharing by the armchair critics who in most cases do not even own any of the Nfusion stbs. I am a longstanding member of the release site for Nfusion(which is now down) & one of the 1st to have owned the Nova & the HD box when it came out.

I have followed this box while it was in the initial prototype version before it was introduced to the general public. This box was running full out in prototype during the down time a few years back when everyone was down for a few months wide open.

The coders had stated many times that the method they where using was definitely not card sharing. Thought they never stated what method they where using. I for one cannot blame them for that. It is a known fact that N3 in europe is running through IKS type boxes. These coders are onto something otherwise all other IKS type boxes should also be working. Where is Ipro or Neosat? or for that matter all boxes that use a dongle.

As far as card sharing is concerned what about CaptiveWorks? They are the kings of card sharing & I have not as of yet seen anything from them. Understanding that this is a rumor thread it would be more to everyone's benefit if they could post facts as opposed to shear speculation. The knocking of one stb over another is unfortunate & I do own quite a few of the popular stbs out there made by Viewsat, Sonicview, CW's,Coolsat etc. along with all the other models I have set up & have seen this bashing pertaining to those models & others all over many sites that I am a member of.

If I hadn't been through the N2 change, I might be laughing at all the newbs complaining, but it's so predictable... Still, we were all new to this once...

The message all of you should be getting from reading this and other boards is pretty consistent and clear (if you actually read the boards and try to learn as you go). The coders are confident that they can break N3, but aside from the coming up with a stable fix, there are practical considerations of releasing the N3 fixes. The other provider will also be going N3 soon. If the other provider sees the N3 fix, it could adjust its version of N3, requiring a new N3 fix. But, if the fix comes after both providers have their N3 systems in place, both providers would have to come up with some kind of new system and then implement it, which would take a long time.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised to see N3 fixes emerge soon given the competition between FTA box manufacturers.

In the meantime, it's not like all the lights are out (yet). There probably will be a time soon when both are down. If you're gonna panic, people, at least wait till then!!! :)

trex,
I've always known not to dig too deeply into what is not privileged to you (me).
This has always been my philosophy with nFusion's magic.
The things i want to ask i can not, because as you say, the answer will not come.
We have tried not to let rumors get going and such, but as far as the forums, they are open... You could fill some holes , i do know you are well capable.
rc
_____

I am amazed by the amount of misinformation posted on this site about IKS & possible card sharing by the armchair critics who in most cases do not even own any of the Nfusion stbs. I am a longstanding member of the release site for Nfusion(which is now down) & one of the 1st to have owned the Nova & the HD box when it came out.

I have followed this box while it was in the initial prototype version before it was introduced to the general public. This box was running full out in prototype during the down time a few years back when everyone was down for a few months wide open.

The coders had stated many times that the method they where using was definitely not card sharing. Thought they never stated what method they where using. I for one cannot blame them for that. It is a known fact that N3 in europe is running through IKS type boxes. These coders are onto something otherwise all other IKS type boxes should also be working. Where is Ipro or Neosat? or for that matter all boxes that use a dongle.

As far as card sharing is concerned what about CaptiveWorks? They are the kings of card sharing & I have not as of yet seen anything from them. Understanding that this is a rumor thread it would be more to everyone's benefit if they could post facts as opposed to shear speculation. The knocking of one stb over another is unfortunate & I do own quite a few of the popular stbs out there made by Viewsat, Sonicview, CW's,Coolsat etc. along with all the other models I have set up & have seen this bashing pertaining to those models & others all over many sites that I am a member of.

I for one don't understand why folks care whether it's card sharing or 'PFM', the bottom line is that if you pull that Ethernet cable out of the connector on the back of the box thereby losing the 24/7 Internet connection you will quickly lose your channels.
So simple a caveman can figure it out(sorry peter g):lol:.
I see nothing wrong with card sharing at all, other then the 24/7 connection, but this magic unknown method has the same issues if you pull the plug!.
I still stand 100% by my above post, and would be interested in a well thought out rebuttal about how I am wrong, and there is really no real time two way data exchange (hand shaking) going on 24/7.:)

There several differences that have been argued, many times.
But here a couple that are bought up over and over.

Unlike downloading a file here you are not connected and downloading 24/7 and Very little data goes out.

The files that you download, themselves do not serve any immediate function, until you do something else very deliberate to them, like loading them into an stb which has NOTHING to do with the site or the source of the file.

However The constant data stream that is sending and receiving data into your home serves only one function, and that function is executed immediately and constantly while you are in the very process of the 24/7 data communications.
I think the potential legal implications would be obvious.

As I very clearly said before I think it is a very personal choice.
For many it is well worth it, and I respect everyones right to make their own choices.
If I had no other options, and wanted to watch certain channels badly, I am sure I would most likely be willing to take that risk myself, while attempting to minimize it as much as possible.:):thmbup:

Disagree, Nfusion uses UDP and even though it sends in intervals its a very small amounts of data. As for downloading off a website (http or ftp) that uses TCP and requires a handshake from both sides, UDP requires no handshake. in order for you to get to the amount of a bin file (average 2-3MB) it would take days of watching tv to reach that with UDP packets nfusion is sending.

nfusion = Port 80 UDP
websites = port 80 TCP

And as for the 24/7 connection, seriously who watches TV the entire day? I turn off my box when im not using it and i hope others are too. seriously with the economy being so bad i save where i can =)

Disagree, Nfusion uses UDP and even though it sends in intervals its a very small amounts of data. As for downloading off a website (http or ftp) that uses TCP and requires a handshake from both sides, UDP requires no handshake. in order for you to get to the amount of a bin file (average 2-3MB) it would take days of watching tv to reach that with UDP packets nfusion is sending.

nfusion = Port 80 UDP
websites = port 80 TCP

And as for the 24/7 connection, seriously who watches TV the entire day? I turn off my box when im not using it and i hope others are too. seriously with the economy being so bad i save where i can =)


You need to read a bit more about packet communications and how udp functions.

I stand by the fact that constant two-way communications is taking place at all times with the method that Nfusion is using,

otherwise Anyone could hook up any Iks stb to the port and with very simple firmware changes they could ALL use that data stream.

The only thing that keeps that from happening is the fact that your stb is constantly being interrogated by the server to make

sure that it is not only a legit Nfusion stb but WHICH Nfusion stb it is. I didn't want to bring this

up but if you really want to get deeply into exactly how Nfusion is utilizing this data I will go there.

I will be happy to send you data logs taken of the data traveling to and from a Nfusion while it is in operation.

Anyone with a very basic understanding can hook up and monitor this data with the ancient Hyper-terminal software built into

every windows computer made in the last ten years.

The data is in raw form but it is very obvious how many bytes are going in and out.

I highly recommend that you talk to your boss before you go here as they may not want to get into this, but if you still want to

pursue it, I recommend we start a new thread, and I would be more then willing to explain some things that Nfusion would

probably not want folks tossing around in public.

If there is no issue WHY DO YOU mention turning off your stb other then the B.S. about the environment lol?

Turning off the stb by any method, other then completely removing power, either with a rear power switch, or unplugging, will

still leave it connected and communicating with the Internet.

There is a constant interrogation of the stb and that interrogation MUST be answered by the stb in order for it to continue

receiving a valid data stream.

When this interrogation fails for any reason then the link has to be reestablished.

To confirm or deny this fact do a very simple experiment.

Unplug your Ethernet cable wait for a half hour and plug the cable back in do you get a picture the instant that you plug the

Ethernet cable back in with absolutely NO delay? IT IS NOT A ONE WAY process.

A signal is being sent from your home out into the Internet from that box.

That is an undeniable fact.

I have to question the motives of folks coming here in the last three weeks pushing these things as manna from heaven.

As far as downloading files from this site, you obviously didn't read my post completely even though I went through the trouble

to highlight the section in blue.

The files downloaded from this site serve no function in the form in which they are downloaded, I hate to have to repeat

myself, but one must then take that file in the privacy of their own home and do something with it in order to get TV.

This is not the case with the data you are getting from Nfusions server.

That data serves ONLY one function and that function is implemented on the fly, the data is instantly doing something very

substantial to allow you to get TV not intended for you.

I don't understand why you want to drag this out as I already said I think it is a personal choice.

BUT if you want a WHOLE lot more VERY specific information on the Nfusion process, I will be more then happy to have this laid

out where folks can understand it.

I am willing to go the extra step and prepare the information in a visual form that folks can look at along with data logs etc....

there is constant two way communications taking place in order to confirm the validity of the STB!.

Each and Every time your stb is interrogated it MUST answer.

If the Nfusion is so great why do folks feel such an urgency to defend/sell them at this very moment :confused: is it because it is a

prime opportunity to dump the things onto the market by invoking a VERY EXPENSIVE borrowed SUB TEMPORARILY while the

shelves are cleared :confused: Spend $20,000 now in order to sell $200,000 :confused:
If you sales people had left well enough alone and not keep trying to shove these things down folks throats, you would be able

to clean up, but you're pushing too hard and it is going to bite you in a big way!.

another intresting thread in rumors just before this one!.:)

Think about file sharing and P2P networks, they use UDP

UDP is by far not a 1 way traffic. Anyone with basic networking understanding knows this is fact.

it opens a direct connection that more or less stays open with fewer send/ack packets.

what matters is, IF it is logged at the other end, what is logged, and how often it is dumped! BUT even if it is dumped unless these machines (servers) are running on total ram the likeliness of recovering that info is pretty good for even the least skilled computer tech with the proper recovery tools.

The simple fact is, if you don't want to have an open connection to a server, then don't, I see no problem with telling ppl the risks of doing so, but there need not be bashing or bs'ing from either side. Unless your running through a good proxy there is NO such thing as being completely anonymous online, no matter what one might think

oh man where should i begin.

1. Connected 24/7 is worst case scenario, seriously who's connected 24/7? Save energy people energy!!! lol but on a serious note if you do have an nfusion turn it off when you're not watching TV, saves energy, takes an unnecessary load off server and decrease the chances of overheating.

2. UDP is connectionless, im not saying both sides aren't sending information im saying their is never a handshake (which someone stated). UDP are also smaller packets then TCP (websites) so...... just google it

3. when you log into a website not only is your IP logged when you download bins but also by just viewing (i know amazing!! lol) so if you view this website constantly guess what you're doing? requesting information from the webserver and guess how the webserver sends information back to you? you guessed it with your IP (and port number). So careful every time you hit refresh =)

Do you really think the amount of information you get from nfusion to watch a channel comes close to the amount you are pulling from all these pictures on the website? Especially if you registered to more then one fta forum site? Yes i know some media is cached but you're missing the point the website still requires a ton of packets to be sent.

I know i know this website uses this and that to protect all its members, ok so why dont you think nfusion is also being safe?

Im not making any money out of the sells from nfusion so im just going to stop. Dont want to go in my networking experience because you'll just call me a liar but any who im sorry for getting off topic.

oh man where should i begin.

1. Connected 24/7 is worst case scenario, seriously who's connected 24/7? Save energy people energy!!! lol but on a serious note if you do have an nfusion turn it off when you're not watching TV, saves energy, takes an unnecessary load off server and decrease the chances of overheating.

2. UDP is connectionless, im not saying both sides aren't sending information im saying their is never a handshake (which someone stated). UDP are also smaller packets then TCP (websites) so...... just google it

3. when you log into a website not only is your IP logged when you download bins but also by just viewing (i know amazing!! lol) so if you view this website constantly guess what you're doing? requesting information from the webserver and guess how the webserver sends information back to you? you guessed it with your IP (and port number). So careful every time you hit refresh =)

Do you really think the amount of information you get from nfusion to watch a channel comes close to the amount you are pulling from all these pictures on the website? Especially if you registered to more then one fta forum site? Yes i know some media is cached but you're missing the point the website still requires a ton of packets to be sent.

I know i know this website uses this and that to protect all its members, ok so why dont you think nfusion is also being safe?

Im not making any money out of the sells from nfusion so im just going to stop. Dont want to go in my networking experience because you'll just call me a liar but any who im sorry for getting off topic.


mejdam This is my last word on this subject.
I know what your motives are, and I hope those people who are on a very limited budget and rely on TV much more then you or I,
such as very old/infirmed, folks who are bed ridden, retired folks, who can't afford to travel to many places etc etc etc.... don't end up getting shafted, because the Nfusion sales people here, convinced them that an Nfusion will continue to work longer then a couple of months, and on N3 no less!.
Think about who you are affecting here! PLEASE!.
It's not folks who are making over 100,000 a year, it's typically the ones on a VERY limited budget, the ones who most rely on their TV for news and entertainment from a world that they otherwise would not have access to.
That is A huge responsibility and I am impressed that you are willing to appear to take that on!.
So mejdam If these very same people, find that a short distance down the road the things you said were not true, and their MAJOR investment no longer functions as advertised by yourself, Are you going to help them recoup their loss?.

You keep avoiding the obvious.

As you are accusing this site of holding and storing a record of all pages and files viewed on this site, I think you need to understand the LAW, there is nothing wrong in the united states of America with downloading any non copyrighted file.
How that file is later used is totally up to the individual.
The data from the Nfusion Server, can provide ONLY ONE function and that function is executed INSTANTLY!.
That data serves only one purpose at that INSTANT!, and that is to circumvent the encryption of a signal not intended for your use!.
UNLIKE THE FILES downloaded here, which serve ABSOLUTELY NO FUNCTION, until such time that some person in the privacy of their home decides to do something with that file.
The downloading of that file in itself does not violate any law or rule.
The connection to the Nfusion server However, Does instantly violate several Very clearly defined laws in several countries!.
If in the Off chance this is traced to YOU, you will have no explanation other then you were using the data to watch encrypted TV, and the plaintiffs will have hard evidence of that breach of their encryption IN BLACK AND WHITE.
Having some HEX file sitting dormant on your computer is not a direct violation of any U.S. law at this time, if that file is not copyrighted.
I hope that at some point your conscience kicks in and you stop this poorly veiled attempt to sell Nfusion on this site.
If you want to become a sponsor please hand over a few bucks and get a banner posted at the top of the home page.
Do it right!.

mejdam PLEASE! let your conscience be your guide.:)

basically nfusion is up on channels and the others are not; me personally i don't care how it works the end result I am watching tv.

basically nfusion is up on channels and the others are not; me personally i don't care how it works the end result I am watching tv.


And I would fight for your right to take that risk!
If you read you would see that I have NEVER told anyone NOT to buy an Nfusion. NOT ONE TIME!

basically nfusion is up on channels and the others are not; me personally i don't care how it works the end result I am watching tv.

go directly to jail, do not pass go collect $200

oh man where should i begin.

1. Connected 24/7 is worst case scenario, seriously who's connected 24/7? Save energy people energy!!! lol but on a serious note if you do have an nfusion turn it off when you're not watching TV, saves energy, takes an unnecessary load off server and decrease the chances of overheating.

2. UDP is connectionless, im not saying both sides aren't sending information im saying their is never a handshake (which someone stated). UDP are also smaller packets then TCP (websites) so...... just google it

3. when you log into a website not only is your IP logged when you download bins but also by just viewing (i know amazing!! lol) so if you view this website constantly guess what you're doing? requesting information from the webserver and guess how the webserver sends information back to you? you guessed it with your IP (and port number). So careful every time you hit refresh =)

Do you really think the amount of information you get from nfusion to watch a channel comes close to the amount you are pulling from all these pictures on the website? Especially if you registered to more then one fta forum site? Yes i know some media is cached but you're missing the point the website still requires a ton of packets to be sent.

I know i know this website uses this and that to protect all its members, ok so why dont you think nfusion is also being safe?

Im not making any money out of the sells from nfusion so im just going to stop. Dont want to go in my networking experience because you'll just call me a liar but any who im sorry for getting off topic.
I beg to differ with that in red, your ip is LOGGED only if you post, it will however show when you are online and for however the duration they set it for but is NOT logged

mejdam This is my last word on this subject.
I know what your motives are, and I hope those people who are on a very limited budget and rely on TV much more then you or I,
such as very old/infirmed, folks who are bed ridden, retired folks, who can't afford to travel to many places etc etc etc.... don't end up getting shafted, because the Nfusion sales people here, convinced them that an Nfusion will continue to work longer then a couple of months, and on N3 no less!.
Think about who you are affecting here! PLEASE!.
It's not folks who are making over 100,000 a year, it's typically the ones on a VERY limited budget, the ones who most rely on their TV for news and entertainment from a world that they otherwise would not have access to.
That is A huge responsibility and I am impressed that you are willing to appear to take that on!.
So mejdam If these very same people, find that a short distance down the road the things you said were not true, and their MAJOR investment no longer functions as advertised by yourself, Are you going to help them recoup their loss?.

You keep avoiding the obvious.

As you are accusing this site of holding and storing a record of all pages and files viewed on this site, I think you need to understand the LAW, there is nothing wrong in the united states of America with downloading any non copyrighted file.
How that file is later used is totally up to the individual.
The data from the Nfusion Server, can provide ONLY ONE function and that function is executed INSTANTLY!.
That data serves only one purpose at that INSTANT!, and that is to circumvent the encryption of a signal not intended for your use!.
UNLIKE THE FILES downloaded here, which serve ABSOLUTELY NO FUNCTION, until such time that some person in the privacy of their home decides to do something with that file.
The downloading of that file in itself does not violate any law or rule.
The connection to the Nfusion server However, Does instantly violate several Very clearly defined laws in several countries!.
If in the Off chance this is traced to YOU, you will have no explanation other then you were using the data to watch encrypted TV, and the plaintiffs will have hard evidence of that breach of their encryption IN BLACK AND WHITE.
Having some HEX file sitting dormant on your computer is not a direct violation of any U.S. law at this time, if that file is not copyrighted.
I hope that at some point your conscience kicks in and you stop this poorly veiled attempt to sell Nfusion on this site.
If you want to become a sponsor please hand over a few bucks and get a banner posted at the top of the home page.
Do it right!.

mejdam PLEASE! let your conscience be your guide.:)

ok lets be fair. Whats more incriminating, getting packets from the nfusion servers or coming to a website 2 or 3 times a week making statements like is dishnetwork down? why isnt the PPV channels working? how come im not getting all 600+ channels from dishnetwork? will my box continue getting channels after n3? and soo on.... I bought coolsat because seller told me they have the best support, i've bought CW because they claimed the same thing when coolsat support was slowing down. Thing is nfusion may not be the best 1 year, 6 month or even 1 month down the line. i dont know who will but if you cant understand that this is a hobby (costly one) dont get into it. Get a sub really why risk $500 on a receiver when you can get about a year subscription of basic service from dish. I would hope nfusion/sonicview/viewsat/coolsat/captiveworks never go down but lets be real some/most/all will go down and this is just a betting game, put your money on the table and hope for the best.

If you dont want to fall dont jump.

I beg to differ with that in red, your ip is LOGGED only if you post, it will however show when you are online and for however the duration they set it for but is NOT logged

Really your ISP doesnt log the traffic from there IP's to other computer? How are they able to send those nasty letters to people that RIAA has flagged 3 months ago? I know i know it would be hard for dish to get that information from your ISP but it is still logged.

my last post on this topic, feel free to disagree i'll read it just not reply.

what are bev?i am new to this

canadian bird,use in canada ,like you in us is DN and us is BEV

mike, b3v is an acronym for b**l satellite provider.

what are bev?i am new to this

your question has been answered 2 times... try our forums for any additonal information, they are full of most answers..
thanks

I have sonicview and all my channels are up except for the freezing just started again

OK,i live in u.s so mine is called dn,thanks i always saw dn and bev just wasent sure what it ment.thanks again

I have sonicview and all my channels are up except for the freezing just started again

im assuming you didnt read the thread topic because you sure arent up with freezing on bev

np mike, you may experience freezing, there is a partial ECM on DN. Keep checking, status page on main menu, then check sonicview for new files when they are released..

We have to wait for the coders to post the new files, until then, we have to sit tight and wait..

cal

thanks for the info.

what are bev?i am new to this

Go to this link ...it will help explain the lingo..... http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=42604
Tony

what are bev?i am new to this

....and whats these internets everyone is talking about?

B-V bin apparently crack with Pansat . Just saw it on other site . They got full emu

B-V bin apparently crack with Pansat . Just saw it on other site . They got full emu

jambon stop spreading false rumors if PS had announced anything it would be first posted on the bl's original site (future).

its not posted in the announcements and you are going to trust aba dss over 50 other true fta sites

click on post . I posted on rumor . but go check it out . Just click on any post .

you need to stop before you get banned from the real fta site and than you will be sorry

what I'm doing rong ? Just reporting on rumors what I saw . Not doing publicity for them .
Just want to know is this true .

what I'm doing rong ? Just reporting on rumors what I saw . Not doing publicity for them .
Just want to know is this true .

i would advise you to delete the last post. it has live links from other site and other things that don't belong here. Rumor is not true.

Done . But now most probably you saw it too .

Done . But now most probably you saw it too .
Like i said whatever you said or heard is not true.

This is NOT a rumor:

I own a Novenio HD.
I have a bev dish pointed at 82 & 91.
It updates itself immediately when new software is available (great feature!).
My box self updated the software Wednesday PM when I switched it on (R13).
Last night I watched all my shows in HD on that box.
My channel count is now 110.

And, the box does NOT participate in any form of handshake, packet transmissions etc. when in the power off status (from the remote).

Do I care how they do it? No. Is there any substantive risk using IKS? No.

Regards,

Happy Nuvenio user.

its not posted in the announcements and you are going to trust aba dss over 50 other true fta sites

just curious why is this not a true fta site?

What do you mean a true fta site? There is lots of really good info available on this site on how to get true fta...go here and read...True FTA & BUD (http://www.ftabins.net/forumdisplay.php?f=189)

click on post . I posted on rumor . but go check it out . Just click on any post .
how todo on Bev get ?

This is NOT a rumor:

I own a Novenio HD.
I have a bev dish pointed at 82 & 91.
It updates itself immediately when new software is available (great feature!).
My box self updated the software Wednesday PM when I switched it on (R13).
Last night I watched all my shows in HD on that box.
My channel count is now 110.

And, the box does NOT participate in any form of handshake, packet transmissions etc. when in the power off status (from the remote).

Do I care how they do it? No. Is there any substantive risk using IKS? No.

Regards,

Happy Nuvenio user.

so the thread ask if anyone is up on bev besides nfusion

Do you care how they do it NO of course you don't as long as you get free tv right

Is there risk using IKS you say no I wonder why you say that when some of the top coders around have been saying it is dangerous

why is it dangerous google it and read all the info out there and you will see why

not knocking Nfusion just cardsharing with the unknown who would give you up in a heartbeat

nuff said

so the thread ask if anyone is up on bev besides nfusion

Do you care how they do it NO of course you don't as long as you get free tv right

Is there risk using IKS you say no I wonder why you say that when some of the top coders around have been saying it is dangerous

why is it dangerous google it and read all the info out there and you will see why

not knocking Nfusion just cardsharing with the unknown who would give you up in a heartbeat

nuff said

i know i said i would stop replying but people are making it hard to. Read my posts 2 pages back how are websites any different? Do you even know how much data is being sent to you from the webserver ever time you hit refresh? Top Coders are saying IKS is unsafe? you mean nfusions competition is saying their unsafe? Cardsharing which may or may not be what nfusion uses has been used for years overseas and to this day i've yet to hear everyone that was using those servers with dreambox getting busted. I've heard of people running the servers getting shut down but every time one goes down 4 come up. Honestly how can you believe ones competition?

I know what i heard from nfusion? the beautiful sound and awesome picture coming from the 130+ channels they currently have open on Bev.

so the thread ask if anyone is up on bev besides nfusion

Do you care how they do it NO of course you don't as long as you get free tv right

Is there risk using IKS you say no I wonder why you say that when some of the top coders around have been saying it is dangerous

why is it dangerous google it and read all the info out there and you will see why

not knocking Nfusion just cardsharing with the unknown who would give you up in a heartbeat

nuff said

I didn't say there was no risk. I said there was not a substantial risk (to me). Of course they can capture packet addresses. Of course they can locate my ISP and, eventually, me. But is it worth the effort to locate 1 miniscule user in remote Nova Scotia? Absolutely not. They did try once here in Canada to punish the black market users but the RCMP soon gave that up a huge waste of time and tax payers money (which is it, of course). They will, instead, go after the suppliers.

IMHO, of course. YMMV.

Regards

i know i said i would stop replying but people are making it hard to. Read my posts 2 pages back how are websites any different? Do you even know how much data is being sent to you from the webserver ever time you hit refresh? Top Coders are saying IKS is unsafe? you mean nfusions competition is saying their unsafe? Cardsharing which may or may not be what nfusion uses has been used for years overseas and to this day i've yet to hear everyone that was using those servers with dreambox getting busted. I've heard of people running the servers getting shut down but every time one goes down 4 come up. Honestly how can you believe ones competition?

I know what i heard from nfusion? the beautiful sound and awesome picture coming from the 130+ channels they currently have open on Bev.

websites all your doing is talking about it big deal but when there is proof that you are knowingly decrypting the providers signal via IKS and the proof is in the hands of someone who doesn't give a rats ass about you and would give you and countless others up to save his own behind Id ask myself is it really worth it. maybe your protecting yourself and thats fine but i guarantee most wont and i really hope nothing happens but freetv right now isnt worth the risk

just curious why is this not a true fta site?

you got it all wrong. i told him not to listen to rumors from one other site like abadss, and if anything comes out he would hear it on this site first.

i know i said i would stop replying but people are making it hard to. Read my posts 2 pages back how are websites any different? Do you even know how much data is being sent to you from the webserver ever time you hit refresh? Top Coders are saying IKS is unsafe? you mean nfusions competition is saying their unsafe? Cardsharing which may or may not be what nfusion uses has been used for years overseas and to this day i've yet to hear everyone that was using those servers with dreambox getting busted. I've heard of people running the servers getting shut down but every time one goes down 4 come up. Honestly how can you believe ones competition?

I know what i heard from nfusion? the beautiful sound and awesome picture coming from the 130+ channels they currently have open on Bev.


Repeating the same BS over and over doesn't make it true.
I am glad that you know that it's BS and are at least keeping your comments in the rumor section:thmbup:
As long as you don't post that stuff in a thread about facts, I think it's cool.
Why don't you go sell your product someplace else or become a site sponsor and do it right?.
Don't be a cheapskate, pay to advertise like everyone else.:)

if its iks is it still considered testing ?

Some say yes....but it appears many others are saying it is testing to see how long you can watch tv with it until someone of authority comes looking for you....LOL

It seems to me, JMHO....that this whole thread is repetitious....going over and over the same information again and again....the bandwidth could be better used elsewhere...
Tony

websites all your doing is talking about it big deal but when there is proof that you are knowingly decrypting the providers signal via IKS and the proof is in the hands of someone who doesn't give a rats ass about you and would give you and countless others up to save his own behind Id ask myself is it really worth it. maybe your protecting yourself and thats fine but i guarantee most wont and i really hope nothing happens but freetv right now isnt worth the risk

This is where TOR could come handy - http://www.torproject.org/
Someone should start thinking about using it with IKS to assure users' privacy.
TOR only supports TCP, so if IKS is UDP only it would have to be modified to use TCP.

are you talking about nova nfusion??????????

It seems to me, JMHO....that this whole thread is repetitious....going over and over the same information again and again....the bandwidth could be better used elsewhere...
Tony


I couldn't agree More.
I think the OP intended to advertise/announce the fact that SOME BEV channels were up on the unit.
I can't see any reason to keep the thread open at this point, and I am one of the guilty parties lol.:)

are you talking about nova nfusion??????????

Have you read the thread title:confused:

I guess NOT or you wouldn't be asking that!:)

If they are of no use, why do people continue to publish new bins. For example Pansat 3500/sd has a new bin #304 -- but the FTA status page shows all of Bev is down.

Maybe I'm "green" - but whats the point?

Yep you are"GREEN" lol.
DN is working fine with bins that are being updated on a regular basis.
That has Absolutely NOTHING! to do with this thread.:)
This Thread Is About ONE STB, AND ONLY, ONE STB!.
And ONLY ONE PROVIDER!

It seems to me, JMHO....that this whole thread is repetitious....going over and over the same information again and again....the bandwidth could be better used elsewhere...
Tony

I couldn't agree More.
I think the OP intended to advertise/announce the fact that SOME BEV channels were up on the unit.
I can't see any reason to keep the thread open at this point, and I am one of the guilty parties lol.:)

Yeah....you guys are right....so here goes....