View Full Version : Bell hiking satellite TV prices


joerogaine
11-24-2008, 07:52 PM
Bell Canada Inc. says it is raising the price of its satellite television service in the new year to match rivals and pay for satellite upgrades.

Bell's television customers are receiving bills informing them of the increase, typically about $4 a month. The increase is based on programming, with customers who are subscribed to many channels facing a bigger hike than those with less.

Customer service representatives are saying the increases, which also apply to customers in the midst of term contracts, are in order to bring the company's pricing in line with competitors and to pay for continuing investment and service maintenance. One representative told CBCNews.ca the hike would help pay for service on the new Nimiq 4 satellite, which launched in September.

Bell, however, introduced a $3-a-month "digital service fee" at the beginning of 2008 to help pay for that same investment and maintenance.

Consumer groups said the Montreal-based company is guilty of double-dipping.

"It's not fair, they're both for the same service," said John Lawford, legal counsel for the Public Interest Advocacy Centre. "How can you split off one fee and say, 'We're just using this fee to improve this part of our business?' Overhead is overhead. The more you split fees, the more you can raise them because they look like they're for different things."

Bell officials did not return a request for comment.

Internet experts also questioned Bell's logic in regard to the company raising prices to compete with rival providers. Bell's real competition isn't cable providers such as Rogers Communications Inc. and Vidéotron Ltd., but the internet — where a growing amount of programming is free and legally available, said Darren Meister, associate professor of information systems at the University of Western Ontario in London.

"It would not surprise me if [personal video recorder] sales are hitting a plateau because people are just using free services on the web. It's the ultimate in time-shifting," he said. "I have heard people saying, 'Why am I not just watching all of my television on the internet?'"

Industry analysts also said the rate hike is coming at a bad time, given the worsening economic conditions.

"Obviously it's cautious times for the consumer and people are taking a closer look at the line items in the bills they receive," said Kaan Yigit, president of consultancy Solutions Research Group. "I wouldn't see an across-the-board backlash but it does give an opening to Rogers, Shaw, Cogeco and others to market to dissatisfied customers."

"A price increase at this time sends out the wrong signal in that Bell is risking looking like it's out of touch with consumers' fears and reality," he added.

Lawford said there isn't much consumers can do to avoid the rate hikes, given that both the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission and the Commissioner for Complaints for Telecommunications Services do not deal with television pricing.

As with cellphone and other telecommunications services, Lawford warned consumers to avoid signing long-term contracts or opting for the up-front bundle discounts that are offered for multiple services. Contracts are often worded in a way that gives the service provider to ability to change prices at any time, which potentially negates in the long term any discounts that may be gained in the short term.

"It's difficult when you're in the enthusiastic stage to think, 'What happens if this relationship doesn't work out?' We recommend you go for shorter-term with higher costs because the penalties of cancelling are typically so onerous," he said. "The other thing with bundles is that it's hard to leave when you're mad about just one service. Most people don't want to switch all their services at once."

Bell recently lowered prices and did away with the system access fee on its Solo brand mobile phones, just days after rival Rogers did the same with its Fido service. Both companies are moving to head off the increased wireless competition when new carriers begin operations next year.

dmantom
11-24-2008, 08:05 PM
What competitors? They almost have a monopoly on the sat industry in Canada now as it is.. The only other "competitor" of any note sucks big time. Bad timing on their part and just blowing smoke imho.

kndtrpts
11-24-2008, 10:19 PM
thanks for the info, bro.

they are just trying to take advantage of the situation
with the current N3 issue.

MHFixxxer
11-24-2008, 10:34 PM
i'd sooner buy an nfusion than pay for ANY monthly increases. lets see $150 for a used nova divided by 4$ per month increase = ~37 months before it pays itself off. additionally when you factor in the fact that your bill goes to 0$ as opposed to say 70$ its paid off in full in 2 months. so the moral of the story is dont buy bell services, buy nfusion services :)

biggay
11-25-2008, 02:03 AM
they need money to pay for all those cards they swaped out

jeison
11-25-2008, 02:41 AM
i don`t like the fact that when i call bell costumer service, some one answers the phone
at a foreign country, while my neighbor is having a hard time trying to find a decent job here in CANADA, what i mean is my hard earned moneys will go outside the country, instead of helping my neighbor survive

Tufster
11-25-2008, 08:43 AM
Nothing like paying $4 more a month to watch crappy programming.
Bev never had anything worth while on it when I subbed.
I cancelled almost 4 years ago and went to basic cable and get better programming.
Bev SUCKs
So does their cell service and their internet service.

Harleymon
11-25-2008, 09:02 AM
I wonder what would happened if Bell had a Satellite TV party and no one came?

dlbirtch
11-25-2008, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the info bro. Their just trying to gouge their customers and take advantage of the situation.

henning
11-25-2008, 09:43 AM
They're probably figuring that they've got our coders beat. Last time it was for 2 months with N2.

pisker
11-25-2008, 10:22 AM
read in one post that bev was in a law suit so maybe this is why they are increasing their rates to help pay off if they lose also we live in the rural area were we get no option of other than satellite service we do not get internet from telephone company or bev so we have to get another bill from another company to have hi speed i just think that if all subscribers gave up their service with these big companies for 2 months just maybe bev and other sat providers might feel that the effects of the economy in trouble just my thoughts anyway

abritt3
11-27-2008, 12:30 AM
Need a pile of money in surplus.....planning for their next cardswap.:yes:

Mr.D2
11-27-2008, 01:07 AM
we live in the rural area were we get no option of other than satellite service we do not get internet from telephone company or bev so we have to get another bill from another company to have hi speed

I hear ya, we're in the same boat here. I like the country, but darn if you're not automatically between a rock and a hard place for options. Still sub to Bev with the parents, and had enough issues with the "Digital Service Fee" hike this year. Took forever to get a credit for the first four months that were charged without notice. Can't say I'm looking forward to another hike. We need to get rid of these huge Monopolies in Canada. Where is all of the competition like in the US?