is anyone up on bev or is nfusion the only stb that is rockin and rollin right now is everyone else still down on bev?

i believe con-fusion is the only one up rite now

Nfusion is up on about half the 91/82HD channels--apparently it's throough card sharing arrangement and is not an N3 hack--BUT it works well so who the hell cares!!!

Yes nfusion is the only stb to have some of bev working.

bev will probably not be up until dn goes down from n3 next year. that might suck but that is the history of card swaps.

hopefully dn goes down soon

hopefully dn goes down soon

lmao that is one silly statement.
its just a theory that a fix wont come out till dn is down.
the reality is when it goes down we may have a fix or may have to wait 3 months for a fix or it may never come out.
the truth is nobody knows.
so be carefull what you wish for, you may be staring at a black screen for a lengthy period.

There is no way something is unhackable dtv has or probably is hacked but people wouldnt wana say something because they would find a way to stop it

bev will probably not be up until dn goes down from n3 next year. that might suck but that is the history of card swaps.

I think it will be alot longer than last time, try glitching 240/241s instant ice scrapers.

hopefully dn goes down soon

Bite your tongue, :mad:

There is no way something is unhackable dtv has or probably is hacked but people wouldnt wana say something because they would find a way to stop it

and you say that because you have evidence of?
i tend to be the more not negative but devils advocate and i like to see some proof.
dtv was a multi million dollar industry and you say they keep it in the closet because they are shy?
cmon
if they had it they would make $$$$ off it.
im not saying anything at this point is unhackable but i do believe one day it will probably be.
hackers will never in the end have the unending resourses the billion dollar cable or sat companies have.
we have the heart but...
again just my .02

keith1612 i bin in this for along time now like from c-band and like someone said once dn goes down the new fixes come out it would be dumb for someone to bring out a hack this soon ,,it happen in dave and p4 was swaped for p5 ,, there is no unhackable card or set up out there, i have seen full out dave hackes with my own eyes they even have hacks for canadas starchoice (don't know why anyone would want it) its out there . the problem is the coders know if you tip your hand to soon something will change last time with the n1 to n2 fta had a fix out in 2 weeks or so well captiveworks did i saw that, but not till dn went black,, all the main stream stb would have great losses in $$$$ so to here ones hoping for a shut down of dn is not a bad thing,, and true it might be awaile for a full hack but this stuff is realy big overseas and thats the biggest market out there and its still running so i would have to say na market would be back up fairly soon,, this is just my 2 cents,, people need to calm down and wait

hopefully dn goes down soon

This is quite a silly comment. You believe that a fix will come quick, easy and cheap????
Generally when there is a major fix is needed like back in the days there is generally a cost associated with the fix some how. Just my thoughts.
Careful what you wish for......

it not that dtv is not hacked why would you risk it when you have 2 sys. like bev and dn that run same card you can mod, to make work ,, there is not a stb that can run dave ,, i think it has to do with the tunner in dave vers. dn/bev ,,dn and bev have almost the same thing that dave has maybe not as much hd yet but soon be there ,,dn bev have become as big if not bigger then dave had and easyer to hack you don't need card unlocker well not everyone and once the mapping are done on a card fta runs smooth +more sats to pick on ,like come on with a dave box it was dave only now you have dn bev gc tele to name a few and more out there its like the days of cband allover with many sat to look into

true it gona cost lots but that why stb's are sold right,, to make money for coders and to buy fixes,, you can bet youe butt that someone at dn or bev or nag vis is on the market to sell something to help us out ,, cards are hacked new cards have to be made more $$$$ for all around

$$$$$$$ makes the world go round. It's all good though.

hopefully dn goes down soon

I better get my bat ready to :whack: crap out of you, better not wish for something stupid like that because u don't know if the coders will be able to get the fix quick if dish goes out as well, it's only speculation that the coders will start working on a fix once it goes out,how do you know if the coders aren't working their a$$es of as of right now to get a fix for bev??? so it's best to keep this kind of comments to yourself, I SAY GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR :type:

getting back to the original question...

Q: anyone up on bev or still just nfusion

A: http://www.ftabins.net/status.php

getting back to the original question...

Q: anyone up on bev or still just nfusion

A: http://www.ftabins.net/status.php

Well looks like the answer is NO - Except nFusion up on some channels.:eek:

bev will probably not be up until dn goes down from n3 next year. that might suck but that is the history of card swaps.

Agree with you, they might fully release the hack for N3 after DN goes N3. They probably don't want to post anything until all is on N3. Also I do belive that N3 has been hacked, because:

1. N3 has been out in Europe for quite a while.

2. There are $$$$$$ at stake for the companies Viewsat, CW etc...

3. Anything made my humans can be hacked by humans lol. silly but true.

4. Right now probably all the Viewsat, Coolsat etc companies are paying $$$$$$$ to all the hackers for a N3 hack.

So I do belive that N3 is hacked and will be out after DN switch.

lmao that is one silly statement.
its just a theory that a fix wont come out till dn is down.
the reality is when it goes down we may have a fix or may have to wait 3 months for a fix or it may never come out.
the truth is nobody knows.
so be carefull what you wish for, you may be staring at a black screen for a lengthy period.


Right on brother keith....my thoughts as well:yes:

1. N3 has been out in Europe for quite a while.


And the proof is where, other then nfusions card swap streams. :coffee:

hopefully dn goes down soon

Not the greatest comment I've ever read. Be careful what you wish for, there might not be a hack for quite some time.:thmbdn:

Umm... yeah, please don't wish for bad things. And don't believe everything you read, either.

And the proof is where, other then nfusions card swap streams. :coffee:

Go check the European satellite info and you will see they are N3,

Go check the European satellite info and you will see they are N3,

Went to a erupoean sat site and this is what I read
"Nagra 3, which BEV and DN are using on their systems, which many fear is unbreakable as well, is already broken. Its just a matter of implementing it in FTA, if this can be done because the current break is being used in Europe with Card-sharing (IKS). For those who say Nfusion did not hack Nagra3. your right they didnt. They're receivers aren't used to hack ANY satellite provider. They can run an emulator and hack them but they're sole purpose is Card Sharing, and it works flawlessly and is the main satellite hacking technology across Europe. They are not using hacked cards and FTA boxes like we do over here." :coffee:

And here is another post from another sat site
Nfusion did not hack Nagra 3

After having to read all these Bullchit announcements around the net, I thought I would put together a brief layout of what the Nfusion has done and why it is NOT a hack.

First let me start off by explaining a couple of things.

Your TV signal is Encrypted before it leaves the uplink center from your TV provider. The signal is gathered by your satellite dish and the beam is focused to the LNB . The signal travels down the coax cable to your receiver where the Smart Card and Conditional Access Module (CAM) process or decrypt the signal and you get video and audio on your TV. The security of the system is in the CAS. A providers CAS compromises of a Conditional Access Module (CAM) and a card. Some CAS only has Smart Card elements and other only CAM but it is assumed that the CAS has both elements in respect to the discussion of abstract security.

Fta receivers and BIN files

A Fta Receiver does what is called emulation. Emulation is in the BIN files you load to your receivers and basically means the software loaded into the Fta Receiver can now process or do the functionality of CAMs and smart cards in a providers receiver. This is sometimes called "stand alone".

Fta Receiver and card sharing:

A person with the subscribed card runs a Card Server on their reconfigured open receiver and listens for client communication on a given port (Here is the only risk with IKS but it is a huge one because it must get your REAL information. I.E serial # and IP). Entitlement Management Messages (EMMs) and Entitlement Control Messages (ECMs) are sent by the clients to the server which in turn decrypts and returns the control words used to scramble the content. The server carries out a unilateral authentication of the clients using the legitimate card and continues to exchange ECMs and EMMs allowing clients to access encoded DVB programs without subscriptions. The Card Server gives each client a thread and this is the only limiting factor of the network. The Server can only support as many clients as the card allows.

The risk or flaws of IKS/cardsharing.

The flaw with card sharing Nag3 (or ANY of the newer forms of encryption) is the card has knowledge of behavioral contracts and once violated it would deny services to the accessing box. In other words, the provider has a way to see how the card is behaving and send alerts when it see something that isn't right. So it limits the number of people who can be connected to the card server at one time. This probably explains why Nfusion only opened the server up for the HD units.

So there was NO hack of Nagra 3 by the Nfusion. What there was, is a PUBLIC test of the limitations of a card share sever. Nothing more then a sales tactic. DO NOT be fooled into thinking Nagra 3 is hacked wide open or even close at this point. Nagra3 is hacked in Europe but ONLY small servers doing card share and no emulation bins are running at this time.

I could keep posting alot of posts from different sites claimming that N3 has been hacked in Europe when they clearly say u need an IKS unit.

nFusion is up on "most" BEV channels

I better get my bat ready to :whack: crap out of you, better not wish for something stupid like that because u don't know if the coders will be able to get the fix quick if dish goes out as well, it's only speculation that the coders will start working on a fix once it goes out,how do you know if the coders aren't working their a$$es of as of right now to get a fix for bev??? so it's best to keep this kind of comments to yourself, I SAY GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR :type:

Wow! Calm the f%$#@ down. You really need to relax on the cafine. I too wish they would make the change already. If that means that **** net needs to go N3 than so be it. It only makes sense. If the hackers don't want to release a fix until **** goes down then down with ****. If thats not the case, well carry on then. AND I SAY GOOD DAY TO YOU TOO SIR.

hi my nfusion still works

yes, it works but dont get PPV and porn channels this means that N3 is not been hack at least is something to watch dont you think........

Nfusion doesnt have to hack N3, although I do belive there are hacks. But if no hack is available Nfusion can get us the channels thru card sharing, key sharing. It doesnt really matter. Everything is temporary, This whole FTA is temporary, the only thing permanent is a subscription.

:mad:anyone up on bev or still sub no hack n3 is out bs bs:thmbdn:

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Nfusion doesnt have to hack N3, although I do belive there are hacks. But if no hack is available Nfusion can get us the channels thru card sharing, key sharing. It doesnt really matter. Everything is temporary, This whole FTA is temporary, the only thing permanent is a subscription.
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Dishes:
Superdish --> 110 & 119 DP LNB
DirecTV WorldDirect 36" --> 97W
Directv 18" dish --> 148W
Receiver:
Viewsat VS2000 Platinum


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Nfusion doesnt have to hack N3, although I do belive there are hacks. But if no hack is available Nfusion can get us the channels thru card sharing, key sharing. It doesnt really matter. Everything is temporary, This whole FTA is temporary, the only thing permanent is a subscription.
__________________
Dishes:
Superdish --> 110 & 119 DP LNB
DirecTV WorldDirect 36" --> 97W
Directv 18" dish --> 148W
Receiver:
Viewsat VS2000 Platinum


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Nfusion doesnt have to hack N3, although I do belive there are hacks. But if no hack is :?:available Nfusion can get us the channels thru card sharing, key sharing. It doesnt really matter. Everything is temporary, This whole FTA is temporary, the only thing permanent is a subscription.
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Dishes:
Superdish --> 110 & 119 DP LNB
DirecTV WorldDirect 36" --> 97W
Directv 18" dish --> 148W
Receiver:
Viewsat VS2000 Platinum

Nfusion team prove they don't used card sharing.On card sharing you can watch PPV channels.But Nfusion was up try De La Hoya fight

Was it really necessary to repost the same thing 3x KMA?

Wow! Calm the f%$#@ down. You really need to relax on the cafine. I too wish they would make the change already. If that means that **** net needs to go N3 than so be it. It only makes sense. If the hackers don't want to release a fix until **** goes down then down with ****. If thats not the case, well carry on then. AND I SAY GOOD DAY TO YOU TOO SIR.

Wanna buy me some decaff :coffee::coffee::coffee::coffee: