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jimg1043
12-01-2008, 08:26 PM
It appears that the cracking of Nagra 3 is finally making headway. The information below actually lists the channels which have been opened and give great detail of how it is being worked on. Rather than just rumors...it appears to be deliverying the kind of facts we have all been waiting for. The read may prove a wee bit difficult but I am sure you will get the gist of what it is saying. All codes contained in the post are only relevant to Europe so I hope that admin has no objections to them being included. If not acceptable then please edit out anything you feel necessary. That also goes for any card discussions included.
Most importantly it does look more positive that we may be on our way to decryption of Nargra 3. Pay particular attention to the very last sentence as this is what we have been waiting to hear.
suzy


The C+P

Update on Nagra 3 in Europe.

Seems that to those who know that (hackers) have been able to enter the targeta and read it, and allegedly already apparent and are experiencing the Nagra 3 in the famous DreamBox receiver, so be it, which is three to Nagra in europe, is their ultimate checkmate,

Nagra 3 cards hacked confirmed


TV Cabo Dreambox Nagravision 3:
Prov ID: 005644
Prov Key: 00
HEX Index Keys:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxx

The Spanish ROM is something better protected the Portuguese. At least 142 had some reference to ST Microelectronics, and therefore could know the manufacturer. In the 180 Spanish do not have this track. Even so, the researcher thinks Luso (for the design of the contacts of the card, according to him identical to those of old known as Funcard, Titanium, etc.). This is a model of Atmel

It has already been read in various forums, and according to reports from research groups Portuguese TV has been hacked out for DreamBox

and already there for that bin deco in europe! ... at last!

and in the last firm to the Devil pcmcia cam put that in the short diabloteam pulled solutions for new rom NAGRA3 of Nagravision

Quote:
************************************************** ***************
** DiabloCam - Stealth 2.22 - for Wireless DiabloCam and Light **
** By Stealth Team - Independent Development Team **
** Polska Nizalezna rump Deweloperska **
************************************************** ***************

****** What's New? *****

* AU
DigiTV AU
Polsat AU

Minor important bug fixed

>> BIG BOMB COMING, stay tuned <<

N3 - coming soon hacked - Stealth is the Best

-------------------------------------------------

Unlike atr the black to white card


Opening of COM1 was successful
ATR String:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ROM Revision: 142
EEPROM Revision: RevG01
Closing of COM1 was successful

com diferenció to 110

Rom110
ATR: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Rom142
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Not if or when fizerem firm já b *** moved to a 00 or 01 (estão to move one time per week), coloquem com os 50 algarismos 888

Or Deco Farid AU is presented as novas keys

Disfrutem do Jardim

Estou to study for a solution to ***

Até Brief

CAID 1802

Provider F410

*** 0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

*** 01
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

***xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

*** 0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


meaning they are very close to give the final blow to trabuco nagra3

although this does not mean that when implemented for these sides, are going to break once and quit, that this entails a good time to study and work, but let us see that the software is somewhat vulnerable.

if setting in which this Posti said that the Spanish rom this something that the Portuguese better protected, which means that although we are Nagra three, the software codes have security, and some others algorritmos different components, and also we confirms that nobody can be testi the Nagra three in any receiver until this is not implemented
inform this so that users will not stop cojer Bob with some news from other sides who say a lot of nonsense

Code:

Good news, Nagra3 is already partly open Quote: A big Thank you to all equipment NanoXX The key update of K50 Spain is already partly open. Only this open. 1 st Channel 11038V 2 nd Channel 2 11038V 3 rd Channel 30 10876V Sports Channel 4 seventh 10876V 5 th Channel comedy 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 6 th Channel action 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 7 th events 11097V Channel 8 Channel 10876V Soccer Channel 9 DCine 11318V 10th Scifi 10818V 11st Fox 10818V 13rd Cartoon Network 10788V 14th BBC1 10818V 15th Nat. Geographic 10876V 16th Golf 10876V 17th Discovery 11038V 18th **** Madrid TV 11156V 19 Disney Channel 1 11318V

SO a hack for North America is more than Possible:)

chefsarg
12-01-2008, 08:47 PM
Cool, very Cool

aairon
12-01-2008, 08:47 PM
It would be better to have a human translate Rather then Babel fish. JMHO.
Of I am pretty sure this has been posted at least five times in the last month.

DougR
12-01-2008, 08:49 PM
just some more useless crap!:thmbdn:

gor818
12-01-2008, 08:57 PM
I also heard something like this that it was cracked in Europe. I believe it it's about time, it's been released in Europe for quite a while and we should have fixes by the next year. I think they are working extra hard to crack it since sooo much business and money involved and some people have lost hope for future fta hobbies.

mefnikk
12-01-2008, 09:47 PM
It is more likely for them to pay for code rather than actually hack it themselves.

abritt3
12-01-2008, 10:21 PM
It would be better to have a human translate Rather then Babel fish. JMHO.
Of I am pretty sure this has been posted at least five times in the last month.


Right on there aairon!:thmbup: When we have it...then i will believe it......until then just repeated post of the same........BTW......good to see ya aairon :)

Latino44
12-01-2008, 10:48 PM
Right on there aairon!:thmbup: When we have it...then i will believe it......until then just repeated post of the same........BTW......good to see ya aairon :)

As abritt3 said, I'll belive it once it's out and running :yawn:

dlbirtch
12-02-2008, 10:40 PM
AWESOME - Looking up everyone.

djsasa
12-02-2008, 10:58 PM
Yeah ok! Most of us are like St. Thomas, if we don't see it, we don't believe it. So untill there is some solid proof, don't get our hope's up for no reason. God bless the coders, they shall prevail!

realest-er
12-02-2008, 11:59 PM
aghh one Question


What can i do with this useless Crapp?????????


lol.....jk jk....

Josh McGrath
12-03-2008, 12:22 AM
No one will release the files or even make them publicly known until the card swap for Dish is completed or 99 percent complete.

zanzara
12-03-2008, 12:47 AM
i read that post to onother site 2 weeks ago its B>ST nothing it happinig yet no where....

kma
12-03-2008, 04:15 AM
believe it come out 1-31-09

kma
12-03-2008, 05:05 AM
Dish is completed or 99 2-17-09

aairon
12-03-2008, 05:06 AM
believe it come out 1-31-09

Exactly what time?
Will I be able to finish my lunch? or should I wake up early?
Anybody can guess a day, but if you were any good you would tell us the exact time!
Or will it come drifting down the river styx delivered by the ferryman Charon?

kma
12-03-2008, 05:09 AM
Nagra 3 Europe - Finally being opened

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This is a C+P from another site.

It appears that the cracking of Nagra 3 is finally making headway. The information below actually lists the channels which have been opened and give great detail of how it is being worked on. Rather than just rumors...it appears to be deliverying the kind of facts we have all been waiting for. The read may prove a wee bit difficult but I am sure you will get the gist of what it is saying. All codes contained in the post are only relevant to Europe so I hope that admin has no objections to them being included. If not acceptable then please edit out anything you feel necessary. That also goes for any card discussions included.
Most importantly it does look more positive that we may be on our way to decryption of Nargra 3. Pay particular attention to the very last sentence as this is what we have been waiting to hear.
suzy


The C+P

Update on Nagra 3 in Europe.

Seems that to those who know that (hackers) have been able to enter the targeta and read it, and allegedly already apparent and are experiencing the Nagra 3 in the famous DreamBox receiver, so be it, which is three to Nagra in europe, is their ultimate checkmate,

Nagra 3 cards hacked confirmed


TV Cabo Dreambox Nagravision 3:
Prov ID: 005644
Prov Key: 00
HEX Index Keys:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxx

The Spanish ROM is something better protected the Portuguese. At least 142 had some reference to ST Microelectronics, and therefore could know the manufacturer. In the 180 Spanish do not have this track. Even so, the researcher thinks Luso (for the design of the contacts of the card, according to him identical to those of old known as Funcard, Titanium, etc.). This is a model of Atmel

It has already been read in various forums, and according to reports from research groups Portuguese TV has been hacked out for DreamBox

and already there for that bin deco in europe! ... at last!

and in the last firm to the Devil pcmcia cam put that in the short diabloteam pulled solutions for new rom NAGRA3 of Nagravision

Quote:
************************************************** ***************
** DiabloCam - Stealth 2.22 - for Wireless DiabloCam and Light **
** By Stealth Team - Independent Development Team **
** Polska Nizalezna rump Deweloperska **
************************************************** ***************

****** What's New? *****

* AU
DigiTV AU
Polsat AU

Minor important bug fixed

>> BIG BOMB COMING, stay tuned <<

N3 - coming soon hacked - Stealth is the Best

-------------------------------------------------

Unlike atr the black to white card


Opening of COM1 was successful
ATR String:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ROM Revision: 142
EEPROM Revision: RevG01
Closing of COM1 was successful

com diferenci? to 110

Rom110
ATR: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Rom142
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Not if or when fizerem firm j? b *** moved to a 00 or 01 (est?o to move one time per week), coloquem com os 50 algarismos 888

Or Deco Farid AU is presented as novas keys

Disfrutem do Jardim

Estou to study for a solution to ***

At? Brief

CAID 1802

Provider F410

*** 0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

*** 01
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

***xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

*** 0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


meaning they are very close to give the final blow to trabuco nagra3

although this does not mean that when implemented for these sides, are going to break once and quit, that this entails a good time to study and work, but let us see that the software is somewhat vulnerable.

if setting in which this Posti said that the Spanish rom this something that the Portuguese better protected, which means that although we are Nagra three, the software codes have security, and some others algorritmos different components, and also we confirms that nobody can be testi the Nagra three in any receiver until this is not implemented
inform this so that users will not stop cojer Bob with some news from other sides who say a lot of nonsense

Code:

Good news, Nagra3 is already partly open Quote: A big Thank you to all equipment NanoXX The key update of K50 Spain is already partly open. Only this open. 1 st Channel 11038V 2 nd Channel 2 11038V 3 rd Channel 30 10876V Sports Channel 4 seventh 10876V 5 th Channel comedy 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 6 th Channel action 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 7 th events 11097V Channel 8 Channel 10876V Soccer Channel 9 DCine 11318V 10th Scifi 10818V 11st Fox 10818V 13rd Cartoon Network 10788V 14th BBC1 10818V 15th Nat. Geographic 10876V 16th Golf 10876V 17th Discovery 11038V 18th **** Madrid TV 11156V 19 Disney Channel 1 11318V

kma
12-03-2008, 05:11 AM
:thmbup:

aairon
12-03-2008, 05:13 AM
I know it's early but I think you need to drink some coffee and wake up!
That has been posted so many times everybody knows that gibberish by heart.
Come on KMH DON'T you read?

Latino44
12-03-2008, 05:15 AM
Bah! nagra 3 has been cracked, see how easy it is to type that and show no proof. Like I said before I'll believe it when I see it, in the mean time Imma go watch a movie :coffee:

aairon
12-03-2008, 05:20 AM
Bah! nagra 3 has been cracked, see how easy it is to type that and show no proof. Like I said before I'll believe it when I see it, in the mean time Imma go watch a movie :coffee:
With Ya on that one!

look89
12-03-2008, 05:48 AM
thankes for the info merry christmass to

jeepman
12-03-2008, 06:34 AM
seeing is believing but thanks for the info all the same.

Stone1150
12-03-2008, 06:40 AM
Bah! nagra 3 has been cracked, see how easy it is to type that and show no proof. Like I said before I'll believe it when I see it, in the mean time Imma go watch a movie :coffee:

Trust the Force. I've been saying that for two months now. Just because a "fix" has not been released don't mean that it is not there. Remember we are playing poker. A good player never tips his hand too early. I've been doing this a long time now through several "The sky is falling" scenarios. I'm not worried about this one. :) The coders don't owe anyone any proof as their proof will be in the pudding. :clap:

davidw
12-03-2008, 06:43 AM
Sorry people but this is not new i read this same post 2 month's ago but i still hope its true

chinfa
12-03-2008, 07:20 AM
Someone please close this!!

gEaRhEaDz
12-03-2008, 09:24 AM
interesting :smoke: :sly: thanks for the info!

rob180sx
12-03-2008, 09:50 AM
It is more likely for them to pay for code rather than actually hack it themselves.

the only smart reply in this thread(not really!)....but i agree 100%.

Handshake
12-03-2008, 10:03 AM
this si very old posted about 2 months ago

Tony Rome
12-03-2008, 11:53 AM
Exactly what time?
Will I be able to finish my lunch? or should I wake up early?
Anybody can guess a day, but if you were any good you would tell us the exact time!
Or will it come drifting down the river styx delivered by the ferryman Charon?

Again.....ROTFLMAO....BTW...what are we having for lunch????
This is just pure speculation and the STONE MAN is right again.....when it happens, it happens....don't tip your hand until all the bets are down....
Tony

dslchome
12-03-2008, 01:28 PM
As abritt3 said, I'll belive it once it's out and running :yawn:


LOL.. Its already running via IKS on Nfusion.

so I have no idea what your talking about.

nfusion has nearly all the channels done.

they are working on the PPV channels now.

but they do have Pay Channels done. Like HBO SHOW CINAMAX and so on.

aairon
12-03-2008, 01:41 PM
Oh god! is this going to turn into another praise nfusion :worship::worship: thread?
I think 90% of the discussion here is about your average standalone stb with a standalone fix!.
Can't you just restart a separate praise nfusion thread?.
When you have ALL ppv's then I will be impressed, but until then it's just(Very expensive for Nfusion)temporary card sharing to me.

watchit
12-03-2008, 02:39 PM
Why is Europe always the first to figure this stuff out ? (even if you dont believe this round - just look at history of this stuff) are they smarter ? more educated ? makes me wonder

kndtrpts
12-03-2008, 02:44 PM
it is because they have had more time to deal with the issue.

it was implemented there first.

jimg1043
12-03-2008, 03:03 PM
continued from first post take it for a grain of salt.

As of today N3 hack has been confirmed in europe 11-30-08

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Just look around on the Euro hack forums... a guy named Euro Hacker posted this...C/P


Nagra 3 The pirate card is called Centaurus (EUROPE)

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The new nagravision system used by european Pay TV providers (TVCabo, D+, Premiere, Unitymedia) Nagra 3 has been hacked. Rumors circulate in german speaking forums saying the new nagravision system used by european Pay TV providers (TVCabo, D+, Premiere, Unitymedia) Nagra 3 has been hacked. The pirate card is called Centaurus.


The new RSA Card on the market.
It will be hot and PRIMARY NAGRA 3 decipher.
That means 2 provider are so entschlüsselbar.
D plus Spain and Germany Premiere, and Premiere Star.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to both a card file to write.
The providers use different Verschlüssellungen.

They are therefore at the ULC's 2 files found. Example:
(Primärcard_dplus_28.09.200
(Primärcard_pdps_17.10.200

The loader will be able to process both files.

Loader and files are stored in the 43.Kalenderwoche released.
The cards are from the 42nd Week available.
The price of the card for 2 fold benefit is 149, - Euro.

For larger quantities please contact the dealer discounts.
We publish this message already, so you have a
Planning security. To start the action, we will
to knock at Apple in the 40th Week
maps at various stores the card at a price of 119 Euro


Specs:

ISO 7816 Smartcard
Flash: 72 kB
Eeprom: 72 kByte
Crypto: Yes (RSA)
Protokoll: T0, T1, TE
Language: ASM, ©
Programmable @ 3.57 MHZ
Programmierbar mit Smartmouse,
ProgBee und anderen Programmern
ORIGINAL Centaurus OS

Also Launched is the NEPTUN CARD - it is new card for nagra3

Note efforts are been made to launch EMU keys for Nagra3 in a sofcam form once providers change fully to Nagra3.

TVCabo Nagra 3 cards hacked. Confirmed.
Maybe not a full hack but can confirm Cabo nagra 3 (Rom142) moscs cards exit and I confirm that. OK.

New mosc cards may not have a guarantee that they will work for more than 60 days due to a change in the way cabo now updates it's package. In fact there is no guarantee how long they will last as they have not completed the change over and there could be a revision update around the Conner for the new cards or some secret function that has not been activated yet. So not a full hack. Just a hack that at the moment gives you access to all cabo channels including Video on Demand.

Results for Software Nagra 3 Tv...SpeedDownloads
Download Cracked* 1421KB/s994 Times
Software Nagra 3 Tv Cabo Full Version* 1777KB/s666 Times
Software Nagra 3 Tv Cabo (February 2008)* 680KB/s589 Times
Software Nagra 3 Tv Cabo ISO* 916KB/s894 Times

FACTS:
Non official receivers that so far work with nagravision 3 original or mosc cards with new firmware.

Mirage models: sft-2000, sci-5110 and 8000 (Complex method but works).
AZbox models: S710 - GA, S710 - GB, ST710 - GA and ST710 - GB.
Mvision 9085 net and USB models.

to those who know that (hackers) have been able to enter the targeta and read it, and allegedly already apparent and are experiencing the Nagra 3 in the famous DreamBox receiver, so be it, which is three to Nagra in europe, is their ultimate checkmate,

Nagra 3 cards hacked confirmed
TV Cabo Nagravision = 3 = Rom140
D = Rom 180

TV Cabo Dreambox Nagravision 3:
Prov ID: 005644
Prov Key: 00
HEX Index Keys: 978496B1C753425C5A45B04F1 F549407

The Spanish ROM is something better protected the Portuguese. At least 142 had some reference to ST Microelectronics, and therefore could know the manufacturer. In the 180 Spanish do not have this track. Even so, the researcher thinks Luso (for the design of the contacts of the card, according to him identical to those of old known as Funcard, Titanium, etc.). This is a model of Atmel

It has already been read in various forums, and according to reports from research groups Portuguese TV has been hacked out for DreamBox

and already there for that bin deco in europe! ... at last!

and in the last firm to the Devil pcmcia cam put that in the short diabloteam pulled solutions for new rom NAGRA3 of Nagravision:D

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Question Nagra 3 Hacked???
Vuelve el negocio de las tarjetas emuladoras para ver ilegalmente las televisiones de pago.

En los últimos meses estamos asistiendo a una reactivación del negocio de las tarjetas emuladoras. Al principio de la emulación de los sistemas de codificación digitales las tarjetas jugaban un papel fundamental. Los receptores no tenían suficiente capacidad para albergar un firmware emulador. Entonces tarjetas como PicCard o FunCard jugaron un papel clave. Estas tarjetas emulaban con mayor o menor acierto el funcionamiento de una smartcard original.

En una segunda etapa de la evolución de las tarjetas emuladoras asistimos al cifrado de todo el sistema operativo para evitar que alguien ajeno al fabricante de la tarjeta pudiera desarrollar un software para dicha tarjeta o para otras. Fue la generación de las Knotcards, OposCards, etc. Aquella fue la época más oscura de las tarjetas emuladoras por cuanto eran exclusivas de un propietario y los clientes dependían exclusivamente del soporte dado por el fabricante. Los precios se elevaron a niveles desorbitados y cuando los clientes se quedaban sin soporte a las pocas semanas de gastar el dinero, las quejas y protestas no se hicieron esperar.

Tras la pésima fama que cogieron las tarjetas emuladoras en países como España, Italia y Portugal, llegó la emulación mediante firmware. Los receptores ya tenían la potencia de hardware necesaria para albergar un emulador y sus claves dentro, sin necesidad de una tarjeta emuladora. Estos dispositivos en los tiempos del hack de Na*gravision 2 fueron casi desterrados de la piratería. Sólo en Alemania se mantenía el mercado negro con tarjetas como Cerebro Card, Didem Card, Zebra Card, etc. Era la hora de vender receptores.

Con la generación 5x y 6x de Irdeto y el nuevo Conax CAS, llegan de nuevo las tarjetas. Tanto Gammacard (y su homónima Gammacard Plus) como M2Plus (M2+) están reactivando años después el mercado negro de las tarjetas piratas. Junto a estas dos tarjetas están apareciendo otras como Kebap Card, Centaurus Card, Hornet Card, etc.

El precio de estas tarjetas es variable. Se están pagando hasta 120 euros por algunas. No obstante, ante la avalancha de este tipo de productos, algunos están difundiendo falsos rumores desde ciertos foros de discusión. Uno de esos bulos se corresponde con la tarjeta Primär Card o Primaer Card. Esta tarjeta hasta el día de hoy no existe. Ninguna tienda la conoce y aseguran los expertos en esta materia que se trata de una mentira interesada. Primär Card debería emular Na*gravision 3 en el proveedor español Digital + y en el alemán Pre*miere. Pero todo lo que se está comentando sobre dicha tarjeta es falso. Sólo es el producto de la fantasía de algún forero ocioso.

English Translation

It returns the business of the emulating cards to see illegally the televisions of payment.

In recent months we are attending a reactivation of the business of the emulating cards. At the beginning of the emulation of the systems of digital codification the cards played a fundamental role. The receivers did not have sufficient capacity to harbor a firmware emulating. Then cards as PicCard or FunCard played a key role. These cards rivaled with greater or smaller I succeed the operation of a smartcard original.

In a second phase of the evolution of the emulating cards we attend upon coding of all the operating system to avoid that someone alien to the manufacturer of the card could develop a software for said card or for other. He was the generation of the Knotcards, OposCards, etc. That it was the darkest epoch of the emulating cards inasmuch as they were exclusive of an owner and the clients depended exclusively of the backup given by the manufacturer. The prices were elevated to exorbitant levels and when the clients remained without backup to the few weeks to spend the money, the complaints and protest did not you cause they expected.

After the very bad fame that caught the emulating cards in countries as Spain, Italy and Portugal, the emulation arrived by means of firmware. The receivers already had the power of necessary hardware to harbor a rival and their keys inside, without need of an emulating card. These devices in the times of the hack of Na*gravision 2 were almost exiles of the piracy. Only in Germany the black market with cards was maintained like Brain Card, Didem Card, Zebra Card, etc. It was the hour to sell receivers.

With the generation 5x and 6x of Irdeto and the new one Conax CAS, new the cards arrive from. So much Gammacard (and their homonymous one Gammacard Bonus) as M2Plus (M2 +) are reviving years later the black market of the pirated cards. Next to these two cards they are appearing other as Kebap Card, Centaurus Card, Hornet Card, etc.

The price of these variable cards. They are being paid to 120 euro by some. Nevertheless, before the avalanche of this type of products, some they are diffusing false rumors since certain forums of discussion. One of those hoaxes corresponds with the card Primär Card or Primaer Card. This card to the day of today does not exist. Any store knows it and they assure the experts in this matter that is a matter of a lie interested. Primär Card should rival Na*gravision 3 in the Digital Spanish supplier + and in the German one Pre*miere. But everything that it is being commented on said card is false. Only is the product of the fantasy of some forums idle.

Card name is Centaurus and it cost 299 €
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GlynnG70
12-03-2008, 03:28 PM
What the hell? Are we going to start this discussion over again? Now someones going to say great news. Then someones is going to say everything is looking up. Then some Nfusion bragging.... Everyone be patient! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as my grandma says. Or was that nostradamus? Who knows. I'm going to go untangle my christmas lights. Hope there is a fix out soon for that! Holy Sh*t! Where's the Tylenol?!! :lol:

aairon
12-03-2008, 03:33 PM
What the hell? Are we going to start this discussion over again? Now someones going to say great news. Then someones is going to say everything is looking up. Then some Nfusion bragging.... Everyone be patient! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as my grandma says. Or was that nostradamus? Who knows. I'm going to go untangle my christmas lights. Hope there is a fix out soon for that! Holy Sh*t! Where's the Tylenol?!! :lol:

ROFLMFAO
I couldn't have possibly said it better!
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thmbup ::thmbup::thmbup:

keith1612
12-03-2008, 03:39 PM
lmao :)

kndtrpts
12-03-2008, 03:41 PM
What the hell? Are we going to start this discussion over again? Now someones going to say great news. Then someones is going to say everything is looking up. Then some Nfusion bragging.... Everyone be patient! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as my grandma says. Or was that nostradamus? Who knows. I'm going to go untangle my christmas lights. Hope there is a fix out soon for that! Holy Sh*t! Where's the Tylenol?!! :lol:

yup.

that pretty much sums up the the pattern.
:clap::lol::twisted:

calking
12-03-2008, 03:47 PM
Personally, I don't think its the fact that NAGRA3 is hacked, it seems to be a race by members as to who can break the news first. This will be big news when it happens (I think it will) let things take its course, when its cracked I am sure there will be plenty of celebration. Until then, have a Merry Christmas/Joyeux Noel/Feliz Navidad and enjoy what FTA you have with your friends and family.

Cal

kndtrpts
12-03-2008, 03:57 PM
for certain, only time will tell how founded the info is.

Latino44
12-03-2008, 04:14 PM
LOL.. Its already running via IKS on Nfusion.

so I have no idea what your talking about.

nfusion has nearly all the channels done.

they are working on the PPV channels now.

but they do have Pay Channels done. Like HBO SHOW CINAMAX and so on.

Nfusion hasn't cracked n3, it's only card sharing feed through internet feed ( connect reciever to the net), I was saying once n3 is really hacked and bins released for none iks fta's I will believe it, not so hard to understand that:Huh?:

aairon
12-03-2008, 04:18 PM
Here we go again lmao.
For the sake of all of the innocent electrons involved please put a stop to this...:o

cokeman1976
12-03-2008, 04:21 PM
What the hell? Are we going to start this discussion over again? Now someones going to say great news. Then someones is going to say everything is looking up. Then some Nfusion bragging.... Everyone be patient! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as my grandma says. Or was that nostradamus? Who knows. I'm going to go untangle my christmas lights. Hope there is a fix out soon for that! Holy Sh*t! Where's the Tylenol?!! :lol:

you said it first ,hahaha I like this show:lol:

keith1612
12-03-2008, 04:21 PM
HBO SHOW CINAMAX
are not ppv just extra purchase on any valid sub.
to prove a real n3 hack all ppv and porn has to be open.
years ago i remember guys buying cloned dtv cams advertised to be full hack and then 1-3 months later the sellers stop the sub and dissapear after selling to 500 people.
easy scam to con guys for quick cash.
im not going to spend any $$$ on false or weak hopes.
if anyone has a real hack they just have to provide full open tiers to prove it.

GlynnG70
12-03-2008, 04:28 PM
Here we go again lmao.
For the sake of all of the innocent electrons involved please put a stop to this...:o

Lol. Not to mention all the much needed ATP I've wasted reading some of these rumors and other BS. :sleep:

Tony Rome
12-03-2008, 04:34 PM
What the hell? Are we going to start this discussion over again? Now someones going to say great news. Then someones is going to say everything is looking up. Then some Nfusion bragging.... Everyone be patient! You get what you get and you don't throw a fit, as my grandma says. Or was that nostradamus? Who knows. I'm going to go untangle my christmas lights. Hope there is a fix out soon for that! Holy Sh*t! Where's the Tylenol?!! :lol:

This all sounds good to me......what channel do I turn to......:lol::lol::lol:
Tony

GlynnG70
12-03-2008, 04:37 PM
This all sounds good to me......what channel do I turn to......:lol::lol::lol:
Tony

I think Lifetime! ha ha. Does BEV still get that channel and what's going on here? Is there any fixes out yet?:evil:

Gugi47
12-03-2008, 06:53 PM
Why is Europe always the first to figure this stuff out ? (even if you dont believe this round - just look at history of this stuff) are they smarter ? more educated ? makes me wonder
Most of the time they are the one got first nailed. So they start working in the problem.

Ok. Europe see TV tru Pal system, we see tru Secan system. What that mean? Try to translate from Esperanto to Hindu but use the exact words. Good luck with that. Now thats why we don't have the fix yet for B**. Remember the map 57? Exactly the same story, different chapter.

aairon
12-03-2008, 07:02 PM
Most of the time they are the one got first nailed. So they start working in the problem.

Ok. Europe see TV tru Pal system, we see tru Secan system. What that mean? Try to translate from Esperanto to Hindu but use the exact words. Good luck with that. Now thats why we don't have the fix yet for B**. Remember the map 57? Exactly the same story, different chapter.
I think you meant secam lol, and Unless you are in France or some territory then you are much more likely using NTSC, NTSC is recorded at 60 frames/sec as compared to PAL and SECAM's 50 frames/second and this is ONLY ONE of MANY differences LMAO.

chuck60
12-03-2008, 07:11 PM
thankyou.

pat.tersons
12-03-2008, 07:14 PM
i saw this same post when b3v was just starting the change, nothing new at all, but lets all think positive

aairon
12-03-2008, 07:28 PM
i saw this same post when b3v was just starting the change, nothing new at all, but lets all think positive


true, true, and also I agree.:thmbup:

ECM
12-04-2008, 06:19 AM
I think you meant secam lol, and Unless you are in France or some territory then you are much more likely using NTSC, NTSC is recorded at 60 frames/sec as compared to PAL and SECAM's 50 frames/second and this is ONLY ONE of MANY differences LMAO.

NTSC is actually 30 frames per second (technically, 29.97 FPS) each of which are divided into two fields for a total of 60 fields per second. This is called "interlaced" as the two fields are flashed on the screen so quickly that they appear as one picture. Progressive scan does not use fields and each frame is a complete picture. If you pause an interlaced frame, you can often see the interlace scan as a series of lines across the screen. Pausing a non-interlaced frame should present a clear picture. If I recall correctly, Pal is broadcast at 25 FPS but does not use interlaced fields so it is often perceived as a clearer picture.:thmbup:

joaquim
12-04-2008, 06:25 AM
Old News

aairon
12-04-2008, 08:11 AM
NTSC is actually 30 frames per second (technically, 29.97 FPS) each of which are divided into two fields for a total of 60 fields per second. This is called "interlaced" as the two fields are flashed on the screen so quickly that they appear as one picture. Progressive scan does not use fields and each frame is a complete picture. If you pause an interlaced frame, you can often see the interlace scan as a series of lines across the screen. Pausing a non-interlaced frame should present a clear picture. If I recall correctly, Pal is broadcast at 25 FPS but does not use interlaced fields so it is often perceived as a clearer picture.:thmbup:


A little more careful reading please. QUOTE:NTSC is recorded at 60 frames/sec

pajamas
12-04-2008, 04:19 PM
The only problem with the European post explaining n3 decryption is that it was itself pretty cryptic... ha ha... :)

Digital101
12-04-2008, 04:31 PM
The only problem with the European post explaining n3 decryption is that it was itself pretty cryptic... ha ha... :)

Hahaha that is so true...:lol:

pumpkinhead
12-04-2008, 05:20 PM
whats everyone talk about when there isnt an encryption switch happening? this topic sure seems to keep multiplying by the hundreds, that would be cool if something was to be learned from all these posts, but the reality is that most of them are from the misinformed so they are corected again, again, again, again, again......

kma
12-04-2008, 05:32 PM
again, again, again, again, again come out 1-31-09

kma
12-04-2008, 05:34 PM
:clap:

kma
12-04-2008, 05:36 PM
:thmbup:again, again, again, again, again come out AMS

kma
12-04-2008, 05:40 PM
:thmbup:again, again, again, again, again come out IN USA:?::?:

keith1612
12-04-2008, 05:41 PM
kma

we get it you want tv lol

oggys
12-04-2008, 05:43 PM
all we can do is keep our fingers crossed,,,,,i remember hearing the same with DTV fixes a few years ago

kidkeds
12-04-2008, 05:46 PM
sounds like a pipe dream....we will need to have this verified

kma
12-04-2008, 05:48 PM
:yes:110, 119, 61.5, 91, 82 Come Out 2009

nadair
12-04-2008, 08:46 PM
:yes:110, 119, 61.5, 91, 82 Come Out 2009

KMA you sond so sure about this coming out, the only question i must ask is : "Where do you get your source from as the fix will come out on 1-31-09 ?"

No one else even have a slim idea when the fixes will come out but you would have the answer, i personnaly find it hard to believe, wouldn't you ?
:sly:

keith1612
12-04-2008, 08:49 PM
lol thats why this is in the rumours section nadair.
total speculation and guesswork :)

aairon
12-04-2008, 08:59 PM
KMA you sond so sure about this coming out, the only question i must ask is : "Where do you get your source from as the fix will come out on 1-31-09 ?"

No one else even have a slim idea when the fixes will come out but you would have the answer, i personnaly find it hard to believe, wouldn't you ?
:sly:

Click on his user name and look at "all posts by KMA" you will quickly understand:CRAZY: ROFLMFAO!:lol:

davef2345
12-04-2008, 09:23 PM
they will never be a fix for bell ,its all rumors , trust me its like dtv i been testing for years once charley goes were all screwed.

keith1612
12-04-2008, 09:26 PM
they will never be a fix for bell ,its all rumors , trust me its like dtv i been testing for years once charley goes were all screwed.

and your proof is????
lots of us have been testing for many years and would never make that statement.

dunigan
12-04-2008, 09:42 PM
Here`s looking up your old address

aairon
12-04-2008, 09:46 PM
sung to the tune 'Who Let the dogs out' Who let the wackos out.

ECM
12-04-2008, 09:47 PM
A little more careful reading please. QUOTE:NTSC is recorded at 60 frames/sec

Oops. My bad. Missed that.:red:

pervous
12-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Can't believe I sat here and read 8 pages of nothing....lol

keith1612
12-04-2008, 10:09 PM
hahahahaha dont you feel better?

pervous
12-04-2008, 10:11 PM
loads better, just think I saved a 6 pack of beer reading this.....

dantesinferno27
12-04-2008, 11:07 PM
i agree with pervous
I gave my liver a break for the time it took me to read these 8 pages! LOL

CHEERS all

keith1612
12-04-2008, 11:09 PM
you guys are better men than me.... i drank threw all 8

rbramz9
12-05-2008, 01:05 AM
:!::evil::read:Will Belive Win I See.

Latino44
12-05-2008, 02:56 AM
again, again, again, again, again come out 1-31-09

Funny u keep posting that the fix will be released on 1-31-09 and before u were saying 3-2-2009, there's no way of predicting when a release will be available, unless u can see the future, better stop :smoke: da greenthumb loco

crazy sat
12-05-2008, 10:24 AM
here a read some thing similar along time ago from another site
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Default Nagra 3 The pirate card is called Centaurus.
Rumors circulate in german speaking forums saying the new nagravision system used by european Pay TV providers (TVCabo, D+, Premiere, Unitymedia) Nagra 3 has been hacked. Rumors circulate in german speaking forums saying the new nagravision system used by european Pay TV providers (TVCabo, D+, Premiere, Unitymedia) Nagra 3 has been hacked. The pirate card is called Centaurus.
This is rumors only, since it has not been confirmed by any reliable source.


@ German Website:

"Primary-Card"

"It is as far !!!!!!

It seems a new RSA Card on the market.
It will be hot and PRIMARY NAGRA 3 decipher.
That means 2 provider are so entschlüsselbar.
D plus Spain and Germany Premiere, and Premiere Star.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to both a card file to write.
The providers use different Verschlüssellungen.

They are therefore at the ULC's 2 files found. Example:
(Primärcard_dplus_28.09.200
(Primärcard_pdps_17.10.200

The loader will be able to process both files.

Loader and files are stored in the 43.Kalenderwoche released.
The cards are from the 42nd Week available.
The price of the card for 2 fold benefit is 149, - Euro.

For larger quantities please contact the dealer discounts.
We publish this message already, so you have a
Planning security. To start the action, we will
to knock at Apple in the 40th Week
maps at various stores the card at a price of 119, - euro offer. We wish you always good reception.

cardteam_primär

28.08.2008 "

So you can either have or D + premiere on that card.

As a starter card that they'll sell for 119 € later, it'll cost 149 €
This is rumors only, since it has not been confirmed by any reliable source.


@ German Website:

"Primary-Card"

"It is as far !!!!!!

It seems a new RSA Card on the market.
It will be hot and PRIMARY NAGRA 3 decipher.
That means 2 provider are so entschlüsselbar.
D plus Spain and Germany Premiere, and Premiere Star.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to both a card file to write.
The providers use different Verschlüssellungen.

They are therefore at the ULC's 2 files found. Example:
(Primärcard_dplus_28.09.200
(Primärcard_pdps_17.10.200

The loader will be able to process both files.

Loader and files are stored in the 43.Kalenderwoche released.
The cards are from the 42nd Week available.
The price of the card for 2 fold benefit is 149, - Euro.

For larger quantities please contact the dealer discounts.
We publish this message already, so you have a
Planning security. To start the action, we will
to knock at Apple in the 40th Week
maps at various stores the card at a price of 119, - euro offer. We wish you always good reception.

cardteam_primär

28.08.2008 "

So you can either have or D + premiere on that card.

As a starter card that they'll sell for 119 € later, it'll cost 149 €


thanks toni
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Latino44
12-05-2008, 10:58 AM
I smell a scam :coffee: In the mean time let's all look at this videos
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-l2kOylinK2s/ghost_tape_of_demon_girl_living_in_pantry_caught_o n_camera/
Real or fake, I say it's all fake.

TorchMach1
12-05-2008, 12:45 PM
I smell a scam :coffee: In the mean time let's all look at this videos
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-l2kOylinK2s/ghost_tape_of_demon_girl_living_in_pantry_caught_o n_camera/
Real or fake, I say it's all fake.

Well the video SAYS it's real, and it's on the internet, so....

sam_ca
12-06-2008, 10:38 AM
its on internet so its definately a fake on internet 80-90% its all scam or bullsit only 5-10% are real or not scam.

Tony Rome
12-06-2008, 02:29 PM
You know, the funny thing about all of this is that we are all powerless to do anything in the meantime.....and while we are waiting for something to happen, a stop, a fix...both?
The thing is, we CAN'T do any thing now so why get the blood pressure up or the stress level into the stratosphere....let's give it a break and cool it until the s h i t hits the fan..
Tony

frizzlefry91
12-06-2008, 03:33 PM
I Saw The SAme Post Except Three months Ago

aairon
12-06-2008, 03:47 PM
I Saw The SAme Post Except Three months Ago

Don't mind them there just,

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/aairon_fugley/deadhorse.jpg



:lol:

frizzlefry91
12-06-2008, 03:58 PM
Don't mind them there just,

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/aairon_fugley/deadhorse.jpg



:lol:

:lol::lol: I Agree:lol::lol:

oso10
12-06-2008, 04:42 PM
lol some of us have way too much time in our hands.


Don't mind them there just,

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/aairon_fugley/deadhorse.jpg



:lol:

Tony Rome
12-06-2008, 04:45 PM
Now that looks like a "DEAD HORSE" to me....are we ridding this one out.....???
Tony

aairon
12-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Yep! it do look dead to me.:|>


http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/aairon_fugley/DeadHorse-1.gif


For our Spanish Speaking Bro's

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/aairon_fugley/Dead_Horse_4_copy.jpg

aairon
12-10-2008, 09:48 PM
I thought the animal lovers would come down on me for that one by now.:)

drtibo
12-10-2008, 11:03 PM
look out peta gonna go after you now lol

Hend's
12-11-2008, 07:21 AM
any news about dec 17th, the date thye will shut off dn ?

jam2005
12-11-2008, 08:34 AM
any news about dec 17th, the date thye will shut off dn ?Just be patient my friend the 17th is only one block away we'll get there and then we'll see what is going to happen

Squid300
12-11-2008, 08:44 AM
look out peta gonna go after you now lol


PETA at the back door.....TV police at the front door.....You're just looking for trouble aren't you ?:D

dobsorob
12-11-2008, 10:21 AM
I know this is bad to say but

it will be a good thing when both are down that means we are one step closer to n3 i have read so much stuff about what will and wont happen truth of the matter is look how many ppl use fta it will NEVER die will there be downtime when charlie goes to sleep yes there will be however the coders have never let us down before now isnt a time to start as for the beginning of this thread i have also read similar things however something like this shouldnt be talked about the truth is a n3 fix will not come out b4 charlie goes down think about it charlie would just switch to mpeg4 b3v would follow suit we are back to square one.

As i said b4 charlie will switch over and i would bet within 2-3 weeks we will start seeing n3 fixes released for the top recievers

be patient ftabins i would say we will be watching b3v as said before by 013109 i will be truly suprised if longer (n3 is a pain in the ass however very interesting to see what will happen)

koncrete
12-11-2008, 01:11 PM
will n3 kill plastic

TFL
12-11-2008, 01:47 PM
I train horses... Those pics are disgusting...

aairon
12-11-2008, 01:51 PM
I figured of all people, you would like them! They look like Very well trained horses to me, not to mention the fabulous cat, It takes a lot of dexterity to hold that stick.:)

Latino44
12-11-2008, 01:54 PM
will n3 kill plastic
My guess would be No

I figured of all people, you would like them! They look like Very well trained horses to me, not to mention the fabulous cat, It takes a lot of dexterity to hold that stick.:)

:lol::lol:

hockeyforever
12-11-2008, 03:45 PM
:lol::lol:I figured of all people, you would like them! They look like Very well trained horses to me, not to mention the fabulous cat, It takes a lot of dexterity to hold that stick.:)

lmao!

frizzlefry91
12-11-2008, 04:42 PM
I figured of all people, you would like them! They look like Very well trained horses to me, not to mention the fabulous cat, It takes a lot of dexterity to hold that stick.:)

LMAO :lol::lol::twisted:

juan31
12-11-2008, 08:23 PM
just to put it out there i got my new n3 cards with a letter saying to install before02/17/09

aairon
12-11-2008, 08:32 PM
just to put it out there i got my new n3 cards with a letter saying to install before02/17/09
It would be great if you could scan that and post it , that would quiet some folks down.:)