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this meaning nagra 3 start 17th dec, end of nagra2channel no 651-662--663-674-678-903 on 61.5

it unfortunatly is the start i would say.

edit: this really isnt a rumour as its displayed on the channels

I agree I get the same, so it begins ;(

Now that just isn't a good thing to see....

is this for dish net

:eyes_closed:is this for dish net

Yes ma'am

Difficult days ahead I hope it will be short live.

Do you guys think nfusion would come with a fix ? Like they did with bev?

Do you guys think nfusion would come with a fix ? Like they did with bev?

BAH! Nfusion :thmbdn:, anyone selling a cheap nfusion:shifty:

Nfusion will have the same card sharing solution for DN. The stand alone receivers should go black within a month (guaranteed before the superbowl weekend). Hopefully the rest of us will have a fix sometime in Febraury.

Do you guys think nfusion would come with a fix ? Like they did with bev?

I would think if they can do it for bev then they should have dik running to.:yes:
:worship:Nfusionhd :thmbup:

I would think if they can do it for bev then they should have dik running to.:yes:
:worship:Nfusionhd :thmbup:

I hope so

every one is to worried lol

When you see those messenge... I saw for 1 hour the channel 663 and for 25 minutes the channerl 674 and never see this messenge or annonced.

Well some of knew this was coming .Now it should tell all testers ,we have 90 days more or less ...:evil:

Merry Christmas coders from the elves at DN,,, LOL
They are just trying to do their part in getting everyone to turn off the tv and get to know your family again.

viewsat is just waiting for the N3 to be in full swing then they will bring the fix as a slap to their face that FTA will live forever...

every one is to worried lol some say all good things come to a end........but dont forget good things comes to those who wait. every one needs to keep cool and have faith in the coders.:thmbup:...they will kick N3 :?zipped? :sooner or later........:v:

viewsat is just waiting for the N3 to be in full swing then they will bring the fix as a slap to their face that FTA will live forever...

I personally don't see the difference between now and then however I wish all the manufactures keep fighting to keep the air free for everybody.

when 1 door closes another will open and that how it always been

when 1 door closes another will open and that how it always beenso true so true....:thmbup:

all rite here we go . lets go the games afoot . like homes dose tell watson :o

All I can say is be careful, don`t go and buy any receiver wait all the way to the end, because if someone brings the fix first, will be just matter of time for the other to get it out,companies Account Manager and dealer are going to be posting that they have the fix to go and buy them receivers, once again wait all the way to the end,be careful, Nfusion has no fix for N3, is card sharing.

All I can say is be careful, don`t go and buy any receiver wait all the way to the end, because if someone brings the fix first, will be just matter of time for the other to get it out,companies Account Manager and dealer are going to be posting that they have the fix to go and buy them receivers, once again wait all the way to the end,be careful, Nfusion has no fix for N3, is card sharing.

I agree With You all the way and not to say nfusion is bad but all their doing is card sharing or else they would have ppv done too

This is real funny!

Quote:"I wish all the manufactures keep fighting to keep the air free for everybody."


ROFLMAO you really think this is why manufacturs do this:confused:

This is real funny!

Quote:"I wish all the manufactures keep fighting to keep the air free for everybody."


ROFLMAO you really think this is why manufacturs do this:confused:

or is it because they want millions, and millions of our hard earned cash, regaurdless what we use em for!!

this is what all is waiting for ,, i do think n3 is hacked might not be na but over sea's.this is good cause you wont see the n3 hack till dn goes all n3 that why no others have put out fixes for bev,, makes sence cause is the hack comes out too fast they just swap out the n3 card for a n4 or what ever will be next and you can count on it there will be another card swap down the road and this same crap will go on again that you can bet on,, now let the coders go to work

All I can say is be careful, don`t go and buy any receiver wait all the way to the end, because if someone brings the fix first, will be just matter of time for the other to get it out,companies Account Manager and dealer are going to be posting that they have the fix to go and buy them receivers, once again wait all the way to the end,be careful, Nfusion has no fix for N3, is card sharing.

All I know is my SV 360E doesnt work on BEV, Nuvenio SD works wonderfully. Say what you will about nFusion, but until everyone else comes out with a fix, my Nuvenio SD is AWESOME. What's the difference if it is card sharing or not? Bottom line is BEV STILL WORKS. I'm sure the same can be said when DN starts the switch.

ummm this isnt a brag up cardsharing thread is it?

All I know is my SV 360E doesnt work on BEV, Nuvenio SD works wonderfully. Say what you will about nFusion, but until everyone else comes out with a fix, my Nuvenio SD is AWESOME. What's the difference if it is card sharing or not? Bottom line is BEV STILL WORKS. I'm sure the same can be said when DN starts the switch.

You're right on the money stuey87,,, It is up to "The others" to step up and show RESULTS not just "promises" and scare tactics. In the mean time the show belongs to IKS.

thank god...its about time...now I can buy a HD FTA receiver soon enuff :|>

Like the biggay and jeepman said......just keep waiting....it will get hear soon enough....
Tony

So bev is up??? There's a fix a captivework600 premium?

no bev is not up

weird my tv said Feb 17th..not dec..oh well i got a sub for B3V anyways..a group thing

On which channels does the switch over say? I'd like to check that out myself. Thanks for info.

SOME INTERNATIONAL CHANNEL SHOWS THIS MESSEGE

to continue viewing this channel, new smartcard must be installed by dec 17.

this meaning nagra 3 start 17th dec, end of nagra2channel no 651-662--663-674-678-903 on 61.5

Like the biggay and jeepman said......just keep waiting....it will get hear soon enough....
TonyIt seems that beople wants things to happen over night .....it dozen work that way. Everything takes time and great things may take a little more time and FTA is the greatest be Patient....thats the way I look at it.............:v:

testing Captive Works 700S and BEV has been gone for a month or so. If Dec 17th is the end of DN for CW-700S of course i will keep the unit and wait it out. But if 3 months go by and there is ANY FTA working....card sharing ...i don't care what it is...of course there will be buyers and lots of them. BEV has been gone for over a month on CW-700S which is a terrific unit. But let's face it...BEV IS GONE ...i love my BEV and would not recommend a CW-700S to anyone right now because it's been soo long. The fix only helps all makes to be out....if it's done it will be here on time!

i hope the coders are waiting for dn to switch before they come out with new fixes that would be a great christmas gift

heres why it wont be down long,once they both switch over to n3,people will be buying n-fusion recievers like mad,so vs and other reciever manufactures better fix it fast or everyone will spend there money on n-fusion and not on others.the money lost in reciever sales would be great for these companies but n-fusion will be laughing it up how many recievers do the common person buy a year 2 maybe so even if n-fusion is a work around so be it it works and people can watch.so vs and others are all over this n3 problem i dont see it being down long.

When you see those messenge... I saw for 1 hour the channel 663 and for 25 minutes the channerl 674 and never see this messenge or annonced.


same here nothing .... strange

i hope the coders are waiting for dn to switch before they come out with new fixes that would be a great christmas gift

Have you asked santa ?

;)

Can someone give me a brief explanation..I am having a hardtime understanding this..will bev be back on my viewsat extreme????? or will i have to make some changes to get up and running again....
Thank you very much..

i dont know about that since that iks server in hong kong had problems .. i dont think im gonna get a box that has to be connected to the internet. you cant had your ip address.. no matter what.. no iks here for me.. they claim that your ip address is only held for a few seconds, but who to say that it is true, i dont listen to anyone about that. if your connected to the internet so is your ip address..

:yes:Have you asked santa ?

;):yes:

Can someone give me a brief explanation..I am having a hardtime understanding this..will bev be back on my viewsat extreme????? or will i have to make some changes to get up and running again....
Thank you very much..


at this time thats a hard question to answer.
you will get many different opinions but thats all they are.
nobody knows.
most opinions are dont expect it soon.

heres why it wont be down long,once they both switch over to n3,people will be buying n-fusion recievers like mad,so vs and other reciever manufactures better fix it fast or everyone will spend there money on n-fusion and not on others.the money lost in reciever sales would be great for these companies but n-fusion will be laughing it up how many recievers do the common person buy a year 2 maybe so even if n-fusion is a work around so be it it works and people can watch.so vs and others are all over this n3 problem i dont see it being down long.

lmao
well thats a great theory but...we really dont know how long nfusion will be running.
im still not running out and buying any untill its needed, and or everything goes black.

heres why it wont be down long,once they both switch over to n3,people will be buying n-fusion recievers like mad,so vs and other reciever manufactures better fix it fast or everyone will spend there money on n-fusion and not on others.the money lost in reciever sales would be great for these companies but n-fusion will be laughing it up how many recievers do the common person buy a year 2 maybe so even if n-fusion is a work around so be it it works and people can watch.so vs and others are all over this n3 problem i dont see it being down long.

so true indeed :yes:

My girlfriend works for Charlie's customer service, and she told me this evening that the "Aladdin" cards are going to be self-destructing soon. Seems to line up well with the original post here. I've asked her to get me more information from work if she can, but I don't know how much they're telling the customer service reps. Probably not a whole lot, seeing as they are calling the N3 switch "G3," presumably short for "generation 3."

She also said that they are in "phase two" of the card swap, not sure yet how many phases they have to go, though. It looks as if the international channels will go out first, as I can imagine that they have the least amount of customers, and as such, that sector of their business will be their guinea pigs. Let's hope something goes horribly wrong during the transition and buys the coders (and us) even more time. Not to mention, my lovely lady would get some welcome overtime, and around this time of year, it's always nice to have some extra cash in hand! ;)

maybe i'm not as familiar with this system as I think, but wouldnt it just take one upset employee from the encryption company and a some money to fix this problem (a la Jurassic Park?)

I Have 3 CW800 and 3 sat i had bev, now 110-119 and 129 just gone to wait and see wat happen. (GOOD LUCK CODER) I Guess the best bx win.

Watch what you can while you can!:)

Just like with nag 2 the foreign channels with the least # of subscribers will go 1st to the ppv, porn to the premium to cable channels and locals will be last with the most # of subscribers.

lmao
well thats a great theory but...we really dont know how long nfusion will be running.
im still not running out and buying any untill its needed, and or everything goes black.

I dont know how long nfusion will stay up either but the same statement can be made about any box. SV, VS or any other company can drop support at any time.

maybe i'm not as familiar with this system as I think, but wouldnt it just take one upset employee from the encryption company and a some money to fix this problem (a la Jurassic Park?)

you have a point their .bit i dont think it gonna take a pissed of worker. with all the problems going today people losing their homes, no job is secure, if the right amount of money was offered, i think one of those workers would sell it!

but it doesnt matter when N3 hits it hits! and we will all have to wait till a fix comes out. of course if one box is the only one working, you know everyone is going out and buying that one box . and they will wait for all new bin files for all the others to come back to life. But if everyone remembers what blacklist said the last time he came on the irc channel. he said that pansat box will be around for another few years, and they knew about N3 at that time. so now its just a matter if when they will come out with the files. But you all know... once one coder comes out with fix, the rest will follow with in a few hours. it always happens that way. even now! when the files go down as soon as one team finds the fix the rest follow a hour or 2 later. im not worried about N3. i have faith in all our coders. if we go down and i think we are just like with N2, it wont be for long, We will just have alot of user's in here asking when is it coming out? or where is it? i know im going to be busy kicking people out of irc channel for asking that same question, no bin beggers allowed. its going to be fun for awhile. my fingers gonna get a work out for sure! LMAO.......

i hope the coders are waiting for dn to switch before they come out with new fixes that would be a great christmas gift

Yea, would be a perfect christmas gift. Miss watching the programs on bev, but still enjoying HBO on dik.

Viewsat Ultra 2000:thmbup:

heres why it wont be down long,once they both switch over to n3,people will be buying n-fusion recievers like mad,so vs and other reciever manufactures better fix it fast or everyone will spend there money on n-fusion and not on others.the money lost in reciever sales would be great for these companies but n-fusion will be laughing it up how many recievers do the common person buy a year 2 maybe so even if n-fusion is a work around so be it it works and people can watch.so vs and others are all over this n3 problem i dont see it being down long.

-I ain't going to run out a buy any Nfusion receiver....Nfusion is just another fta
receiver....I would buy other receivers before I would a Nfusion....Viewsat, Sonicview,
Captive Works, and a few others will come out with a fix...I U are doing is blowing
your horn.

As long as the hockey games of the teams I like are passed on cable I won't worry too much either, if they play on ppv I guess I'll listen to them on the radio or online :|>, not spending money on the nfusion reciever, GAH!:thmbdn:

All this means is just more family time and less tv... Our kids need to be surrounded by family this days anyways but i heard many stories before about fta going out... Testing for 9 years and still here... Just a simple game. coders are simply the best tool we have and we should be grateful each time we sit and watch test tv... God bless them, admins, administrators and all who run and help up with our fun testing.... Remember is called testing for this reasons..... Happy Hollidays..... :clap::thmbup:

If NFusion is the only one decrypting Nagra 3 when Dish is done then they are a sitting duck for an Anton Pillar court order. I will just wait it out. Get a sub and wait. I'm sure a fix will be coming. ;)

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charlie has given christmas gift to his suscribers.:lol::coffee:

Hi all:
I do not received the smart card yet and any instructions for my boxes. I understand that this conversion will be to next year. As soon, receive any other notification. I will let you know.

Merry Christmas

Thank you for this gift

well let's just cross our fingers and hope the coders can cook something up, they will find a way , there's always a way...

after totally black out the coders gonna bring the fix fast you'll see there is too much money to lose by the STB dealers.......

the key word in this game is patients.:yes: